A toddler born with eight limbs and believed by some to be the reincarnation of the multi-limbed Hindu goddess Vishnu, is set to undergo a 40-hour operation to remove half of her limbs.
Lakshmi Tatma was born joined to a ‘parasitic twin’ and will go under the knife at the hands of 30 surgeons to remove two of her useless arms and legs.
The headless ‘twin’ is joined to Lakshmi at the pelvis and has its own spinal column and kidney.
Without the operation the little girl would never be able to walk or crawl and would be unlikely to live past her early teens, doctors said.
The extraordinary eight-limbed baby was born in a poverty-stricken region of Bihar, India - on the day devoted to the celebration of the four-armed Hindu deity Vishnu.
Her mother Poonam Tatma said she believed her daughter was “a miracle, a reincarnation” of Vishnu.
Dr Sharan Patil, who will be leading the surgery at the country’s Narayana Health City, in Bangalore, said: "Fortunately, Lakshmi has one complete body with a near perfect set of organs.
"Her skeletal system involves two bodies which are fused together at the level of the pelvis.
“The operation itself, although presents several challenges, is not the most complex in the world. What is highly unusual in Lakshmi’s case is precisely how her bodies are fused, almost mirroring each other.”
Parents Poonam Devi and Shambu Das, who earn about 50p a day as casual labourers, were turned away from several hospitals before her plight was taken up by Dr Patil.
The operation is expected to cost about £100,000.
Poonam, who gave birth to Lakshmi on the celebration day of the four-armed Hindu goddess of wealth and prosperity after whom the new born was named, said: “She is a miracle, a special blessing from God. But she is my daughter and she cannot live like this.”
Laskhmi is the subject of a Channel 4 documentary as part of the Bodyshocks series.
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Peace
Remarkable! Allah (SWT) sends them a sign on their day of worship and they misread it.
They believe in a superior entity for it's multiple limbs ... their rationale tells them God is superior and having more limbs is superior to the four of normal humans.
Allah (SWT) tells us that man is made in the best of moulds. We see this in the life of that girl who having more limbs than the average human cannot walk and will live a repressed life if left like that.
So how can they attribute to God that what is inferior? How can they say in the same breath that she is the form of God but needs an operation?
Re: Toddler with eight limbs branded 'reincarnation of Hindu god' to undergo life-sav
Peace
Remarkable! Allah (SWT) sends them a sign on their day of worship and they misread it.
They believe in a superior entity for it's multiple limbs ... their rationale tells them God is superior and having more limbs is superior to the four of normal humans.
Allah (SWT) tells us that man is made in the best of moulds. We see this in the life of that girl who having more limbs than the average human cannot walk and will live a repressed life if left like that.
So how can they attribute to God that what is inferior? How can they say in the same breath that she is the form of God but needs an operation?
So what is the alternative here? That the villagers are disgusted by them and treat that family like outcasts? That she remain that way for hte rest of her life? One should be thankful that the parents even had the aqal to have her operated on. No doubt people with multiple limbs are maybe considered reincarnations of their deities but at least these parents had the sense to realize that no matter how much she'll be "worshippied" its better to be able to live a decent life, i.e., be able to walk and talk and live like a norml child.
Re: Toddler with eight limbs branded 'reincarnation of Hindu god' to undergo life-sav
Peace
Remarkable! Allah (SWT) sends them a sign on their day of worship and they misread it.
Children are born with disabilities in all parts of the world and muslims countries are no exception for that. Then it should also imply that those muslims are also receiving some "signs" and they too misread it(whatever you meant by it)
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They believe in a superior entity for it's multiple limbs ... their rationale tells them God is superior and having more limbs is superior to the four of normal humans.
Allah (SWT) tells us that man is made in the best of moulds. We see this in the life of that girl who having more limbs than the average human cannot walk and will live a repressed life if left like that.
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Don't agree with this when muslims do say that non muslims have no hope of salvation. It only implies that it has to be muslims who are made by best of moulds and not non muslim humans.
I am not telling that muslims should stop telling that they are made of best moulds and others not so. Freedom of speech(which actually even others have)
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So how can they attribute to God that what is inferior? How can they say in the same breath that she is the form of God but needs an operation?
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Re: Toddler with eight limbs branded 'reincarnation of Hindu god' to undergo life-sav
Peace
Remarkable! Allah (SWT) sends them a sign on their day of worship and they misread it.
They believe in a superior entity for it's multiple limbs ... their rationale tells them God is superior and having more limbs is superior to the four of normal humans.
Allah (SWT) tells us that man is made in the best of moulds. We see this in the life of that girl who having more limbs than the average human cannot walk and will live a repressed life if left like that.
So how can they attribute to God that what is inferior? How can they say in the same breath that she is the form of God but needs an operation?
I cant believe how illiterate some so called literate people are..
the people among who she was born dont believe in Allah (SWT) so your logic do not apply to them.. there are many more religions in the world... if you cannot respect them why do u cry when they do the same..
superstition is a part of life of poor and illiterate people... they can say or believe whatever... generalizing this thing is very immature..
the fact is she was born with a deformity and everyone but few people believe that. she was not operated by the same people who think that she is a deity... btw god resides in everyone... you , me and her too... there aint no body inferior..
So next time before you pass judgment on others please take some time to learn about them... criticism is fine.... but uneducated criticism is a joke...
Re: Toddler with eight limbs branded ‘reincarnation of Hindu god’ to undergo life-sav
Please understand that some peoples’ belief in God is superior to others and doesn’t allow for the ignorance of the Deity displayed by those who with a different belief system.
Re: Toddler with eight limbs branded 'reincarnation of Hindu god' to undergo life-sav
We Hindus are really idiots. This kid needs a complete care after the operation, but may be many in the village will continue worshipping her and disturb her future and health recovery.
Re: Toddler with eight limbs branded 'reincarnation of Hindu god' to undergo life-sav
So what is the alternative here? That the villagers are disgusted by them and treat that family like outcasts? That she remain that way for hte rest of her life? One should be thankful that the parents even had the aqal to have her operated on. No doubt people with multiple limbs are maybe considered reincarnations of their deities but at least these parents had the sense to realize that no matter how much she'll be "worshippied" its better to be able to live a decent life, i.e., be able to walk and talk and live like a norml child.
Peace Sara516
I was passing you the handle ... and you go and grab the blade ... Please read again what I have written ... I am not saying that she should not have an operation. As far as I understand this is the religion forum. My statement was one regarding the faith behind the personifications of Deity created by our Hindu cousins and the lack of reason they apply to those concepts when they are clear the same arguments do not apply on humans. Rather humans with more arms and legs are more useless than ones with the normal amount. But when it comes to personifying God they give Vishnu multiple limbs as if it supposed to be superior.
Re: Toddler with eight limbs branded 'reincarnation of Hindu god' to undergo life-sav
Children are born with disabilities in all parts of the world and muslims countries are no exception for that. Then it should also imply that those muslims are also receiving some "signs" and they too misread it(whatever you meant by it)
Peace ssingh
Now you have misread what I wrote ... Please read again ... I am in no way mocking the child for having a disability. That disability was the sign of God I was referring to. Yes, and Muslims should realise that life whether fully apt or disabled is a sign of God, a blessing and a test. For those who do not have the abilities as others then know their judgement will be less and for those whose abilities are full then know they have a great responsibility to care for those who have less.
Don't agree with this when muslims do say that non muslims have no hope of salvation. It only implies that it has to be muslims who are made by best of moulds and not non muslim humans.
Now you applying your own thoughts on this. Please refrain from this emotional argument. In the Qur'an it states clearly that mankind is made in the best of moulds. Now show us in nature or otherwise by those personifications if that statement is true or false.
I am not telling that muslims should stop telling that they are made of best moulds and others not so. Freedom of speech(which actually even others have)
Misnoma ... By creating your own argument falsly you are destroying it yourself. I'll let you continue.
Religion is devoid of logic(usually).
Is it really? It would be a truism to state that religion does not rely on logic alone, but to say it is devoid of it makes you sound either an atheist or terribly confused. Now if you want to talk in a lighter tone ... I'm all game!
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I cant believe how illiterate some so called literate people are..
the people among who she was born dont believe in Allah (SWT) so your logic do not apply to them.. there are many more religions in the world... if you cannot respect them why do u cry when they do the same..
superstition is a part of life of poor and illiterate people... they can say or believe whatever... generalizing this thing is very immature..
the fact is she was born with a deformity and everyone but few people believe that. she was not operated by the same people who think that she is a deity... btw god resides in everyone... you , me and her too... there aint no body inferior..
So next time before you pass judgment on others please take some time to learn about them... criticism is fine.... but uneducated criticism is a joke...
Peace kaka_in_usa
Kaka ji ... I think .... you are right! They don't believe in Allah (SWT) ... Also you must be right that I do not respect other religions. You must again be right that I cry when others disrespect Islam.
You are also right that superstition is part of the life of poor people and illiterate people. Wasn't Muhammad (SAW) poor and illiterate? Also you are right that I am generalizing and you are not.
You must also be right in saying a few people believe that the girl is not deformed ... I didn't know that were any, but you may be right. Of course the people who operated on her couldn't think her deity.
You must again be right in saying that God resides in everyone.
I was making criticism on only one person ... that mother of the girl.
So I must disagree on that last point uneducated criticism is not a joke ... it is really kakapan. (childish).
