re: today's mainstream columns.....Imran Khan parh saktay ho to parho!
We have proof that NS did not pay tax + money laundering.
This desire to see a 'khuni ehtesaab' of tax evaders just doesn't go away. Through the nineties, the PPP government tried its best to get Sharifs on these charges. (and Sharifs did the same to PPP folks). Then in the early 2000s, Pervaiz Musharraf tried even harder. Either they didn't do anything, or they were really good at and we couldn't gather enough proofs to make a case in a court. You state that you have some special proof. Unless we are talking about execution without a proper trial, what more are we going to do that Musharraf and Bibi didn't try? Let go of this fascination..
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His little brother got people killed.
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I think you meant to say "Chief Minister" of Punjab. Because he's running Punjab in that role and not as Nawaz Sharif's brother. It's a fair argument that Punjab CM mishandled the Model Town situation. Fair to go to court against him, or even protest in Punjab. What does that have to do with wrapping up the whole system?
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We have proof they rigged election.
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Accusing is not the same as proving. The tribunals have found local irregularities on all sides. The Supreme Court panel can investigate whether there was a large scale rigging and you can present your proofs there. I hope they are better proofs than claims we have heard about that can't even be called cirumstantial evidence. Why did he make a speech at 11 p.m. A whole media group was against us. All ROs, and judges were against us (really!!)
re: today's mainstream columns.....Imran Khan parh saktay ho to parho!
1) **A most worrying aspect of the two dharnas is an utter failure to understand that the promises made to the public have to be financed at some point.** Ø ** Pakistan had the lowest level of corruption 2004-2006 ever since they starting keeping statistics since 2001. Ecomony wasn’t doing that bad comparison to last 4-6 years. In Pakistan, corruption has caused an unbearable loss to the economy in recent decades. A newspaper has reported that the estimated loss corruption caused was more than Rs12 billion per day including Rs7 billion of tax evasion. you have to stop corruption from the top-like NS govt.
2) Tax reform, the only serious way of mobilising the desired resources, is not given the attention it deserves. If anything, the talk is about reducing taxes, increasing subsidies. In a country where the elite already deems taxes as an undesirable imposition and traders prefer personal donation and zakat to paying taxes, raising the spectre of no taxation without representation was irresponsible.**
**“taxation without representation is tyranny” People who pay taxes at tolls, on phone cards or anything they purchase may feel little perturbed when no security of life or liberty is provided by state in return. Start enforcement with politician or so called leaders.
3) In spite of a respectable presence in the Parliament and control of the government in a province, the PTI has also reduced itself to a pressure group by insisting on the resignation of the prime minister before it would discuss any matter of substance. Pressure groups do influence policy here and there, but are not known to have made revolutions in the annals of history.
That could be due to many reasons including good governess avoided the need of revolution. **
**4) ****Dharnas are a feature of democracy, but turning them into vehicles against it is a worst political economy move**. Assumption is there is democracy is Pakistan,laughable gesture. ****
re: today's mainstream columns.....Imran Khan parh saktay ho to parho!
This desire to see a 'khuni ehtesaab' of tax evaders just doesn't go away. Through the nineties, the PPP government tried its best to get Sharifs on these charges. (and Sharifs did the same to PPP folks). Then in the early 2000s, Pervaiz Musharraf tried even harder. Either they didn't do anything, or they were really good at and we couldn't gather enough proofs to make a case in a court. You state that you have some special proof. Unless we are talking about execution without a proper trial, what more are we going to do that Musharraf and Bibi didn't try? Let go of this fascination..
I think you meant to say "Chief Minister" of Punjab. Because he's running Punjab in that role and not as Nawaz Sharif's brother. It's a fair argument that Punjab CM mishandled the Model Town situation. Fair to go to court against him, or even protest in Punjab. What does that have to do with wrapping up the whole system?
Accusing is not the same as proving. The tribunals have found local irregularities on all sides. The Supreme Court panel can investigate whether there was a large scale rigging and you can present your proofs there. I hope they are better proofs than claims we have heard about that can't even be called cirumstantial evidence. Why did he make a speech at 11 p.m. A whole media group was against us. All ROs, and judges were against us (really!!)
Seriously ???
is your fav book telephone dir ?????
did you know what has been going on courts lately or always for that matter ???
re: today's mainstream columns.....Imran Khan parh saktay ho to parho!
Seriously ???
is your fav book telephone dir ?????
did you know what has been going on courts lately or always for that matter ???
I'll disregard your attempted insult through recycled internet humor (really)?
As far your comment about courts is concerned, your comment essentially boils down to that we should just accept your allegations on face value as proven fact and there is no independent authority whose judgement you will accept. Any agreement between you and me wouldn't have any effect on the actual situation anyway, so I no longer have anything of value to say in response to your claim. Good luck pursuing it.
re: today's mainstream columns.....Imran Khan parh saktay ho to parho!
I'll disregard your attempted insult through recycled internet humor (really)?
As far your comment about courts is concerned, your comment essentially boils down to that we should just accept your allegations on face value as proven fact and there is no independent authority whose judgement you will accept. Any agreement between you and me wouldn't have any effect on the actual situation anyway, so I no longer have anything of value to say in response to your claim. Good luck pursuing it.
sorry.
But it was not recycled. I meant look at your posts, looks like you are so in love with procedures documentations. Seems like you would read phone dir, court document and marvel them.
Face value ???
NS:
His tax fraud doc is on net.
Money laundering is on the net.
Election rigging is on the net.
But you like to take human element out, and go through ... procedures...
Who are so clumsy that they facilitate those issue on the first place
re: today's mainstream columns.....Imran Khan parh saktay ho to parho!
Face value ???
NS:
His tax fraud doc is on net.
Money laundering is on the net.
Election rigging is on the net.
I was not planning on continuing this response chain further, but boy you walked into it. If that's the standard we should go by and procedures and due process is too much to ask for, then:
re: today's mainstream columns.....Imran Khan parh saktay ho to parho!
I was not planning on continuing this response chain further, but boy you walked into it. If that's the standard we should go by and procedures and due process is too much to ask for, then:
re: today's mainstream columns.....Imran Khan parh saktay ho to parho!
By the way, I am a Nigerian prince and have a large amount of wealth i need to transfer out of the country and will share 50% of it if you help me with it. Can you please share your bank information with me. Rest assured I am completely legit, you can read about me, **it's on the net. **
re: today's mainstream columns.....Imran Khan parh saktay ho to parho!
ok
I used to like javeed's stories, I used to listen to him.
Thats how I found out he is dishonest. No matter how much coverage he gives PTI.
He came to TV station with his brother and beat up shazeeb khanzade thoroughly.
Wont you say little strange for what the pretend to be.
Do you have trouble comprehending ? when I say this ??
That means we don't call people name just because they disapprove us.
bhai jan...you used to listen to javed program and that is how you found he is dishonest....i see. not sure how can you find out from programs that one is financially corrupt but fine. I am not going to debate this one.
but i have a different request..i did not abuse you or your leader anywhere in this thread....you had problems with urdu press, so i posted English columnists from tribune and dawn...no where i cited jang, geo, news or friday tiems as they are perceived anti-imran
then why did you use vulgar language here..why did you call me man with impaired thinking...why start yelling and calling javed ch a munafiq, a thug and then you called him a-hole...you could have made your point without all these titles
Re: today's mainstream columns.....Imran Khan parh saktay ho to parho!
bhai jan...you used to listen to javed program and that is how you found he is dishonest....i see. not sure how can you find out from programs that one is financially corrupt but fine. I am not going to debate this one.
but i have a different request..i did not abuse you or your leader anywhere in this thread....you had problems with urdu press, so i posted English columnists from tribune and dawn...no where i cited jang, geo, news or friday tiems as they are perceived anti-imran
then why did you use vulgar language here..why did you call me man with impaired thinking...why start yelling and calling javed ch a munafiq, a thug and then you called him a-hole...you could have made your point without all these titles
you started it.
you called me "pti wali auqaat"
when in fact you guys should be thank full for PTI in the country.
