Assalam-Alaikum,
I wanted only your replies to the other post, so i’ve started a new one!
You mentioned before that you are well versed in Quran (Subhnallah). Could you give me some Ayat’s that I could read which will help me understand your Da’wa?
Jazakallah
Note: This question is for Muslim786, any other replies can go in the other post. Jazakallah
**Posted by Muslim786
Salam all,
Yes cooldude, we should love Allah above all. There is a difference between only being a Muslim and becoming a Momin. To be on the peak of Islam and Eeman, one needs to not only Love Allah but Allah messengers (all) and yes offcourse our Prophet (s.a.w) was the best of all the prophets , therefore, his love is very very important.
{b] It is not only we who love Prophet (s.a.w). Allah himself loves prophet (s.a.w) and his family(r.a) and asks us to give salam to them.
**My connection is messing up brother, so please give me time and i will insha-Allah give u references.
Wassalam,
Muslim786**
Jazakallah for that response. I am much awaiting reading the quran about this.
You have good patience, inshallah we will have a meaningful discussion here.
Jazakallah.
P.s. Muslim786 replies only
I will reply to you. My connection is messing up brother cooldude. Give me a little bit of time. It is because of my weird "Dsl line connection" that i disappear all of a sudden. Appreciate it. May Allah bless all muslimeens (mukhliseens)
Muslim786
Thats fine. I will await your reply.
Jazakallah
Salam brother cooldude,
Here is the reference about loving Prophet (s.a.w) and his family (r.a) in quran.
It is a big ayat so I am just quoting the portion u requested for.
Sorah Shuára, ayat # 23:
"Qul-la asálokum alaihey ajran illal muwaddatah fil-qurba"***
translation:
"Oh Rasool (s.a.w) say! I dont ask for anything in return from you (muslims) except that u love my ahle-bait (syyeda fatima r.a, syedna ali r.a, syedna hasan r.a, syedna hussein r.a)".
word by word translation:
qul= say
asálokum= ask from u
ajran= in return
illal = except
muwadattah= love
fil-qurbah= of ahlebait
**Tafseer Mullah saltoot (jama-alazhar)
**Tafseer Farman Ali
**Tafseer Maulana Moududdi
**Tafseer Dr. Shakir
Jazakallah khair.
Let me know if i can be of any help
Wassalam,
Muslim786
Cool,
In the meanwhile, go and answer the clarifications that we seek in the thread:WAHABI FITNA.
Listen don't waste your time questioning Traditional Islam belief. We were there with the prophet, unlike one abdul wahab that crawled out of the desert 200 yrs ago and preaches his FITNA to sway the umah to wards jahalliyat!
Here's this little forecast for the wahabis. Even after brother muslim gives the ayas, the wahabis in their Fitna will sing the same song & dance about all muslims being mushriqs. Its the saudi riyals my friend that gets the wahabis this arrogance; make sure you are getting paid because all the wahabis get paid one way or the other.
Jazakallah for the comments:
I’ve just checked in 2 different versions of the Quran I have:
You may have given me the wrong Ayat:
Surah Al Shu’ara (The Poets)
**[26:23]
23. Fir’aun (Pharaoh) said: “And what is the Lord of the 'Alamin (mankind, jinns and all that exists)?” **
In Another Translation
[26:23]
Pharaoh said, `and what is the Lord of the World?'(23)
Could you please post the correct ayat.
Jazakallah
logical: I don't have the answers. That is why I would like to learn.
Would you like to give me some of your knowledge?
Please post on the other Muslim786 post.
Jazakallah
its is not shuára. its "Shoora" brother
its is not shuára. its "Shoora" brother.
Surah #: 42
Ayat #: 23
Apologies for the confusion!!!
These are the Ayats that I get:
That indeed is the good news that God gives to His servants, who believe and do righteous deeds. Say, `I do not ask of you a wage for this, except love of the kinship'. And Whoso earns a good deed We shall give them increase in goodness; surely God is Forgiving, Thankful.(23)
I'm confused!
Jazakallah khair cooldude,
You are reading the correct ayat but not the word by word correct translation. Whose translation is that u are reading? These words mean the same in arabic:
**
kinship=ahle-bait (family/near ones)
wage=return (Prophet was obviously not asking for wage , the correct aravbic meaning is return or reward)
the word this here refers to=bringing islam
**
(Tafseer Moulana Moududi
Tafseer Dr. Shakir)
**** Masha-Allah u have a good thirst for knowledge. Masha-Allah. Jazak-Allah**
Wassalam,
Muslim786
Cool
look up the english meaning of the word: kinsfolk, kinship, kinsman.
It means, per Webster, blood relations; members of the same family.
042.023
SHAKIR: That is of which Allah gives the good news to His servants, (to) those who believe and do good deeds. Say: I do not ask of you any reward for it but love for my near relatives; and whoever earns good, We give him more of good therein; surely Allah is Forgiving, Grateful.
YUSUFALI: That is (the Bounty) whereof Allah gives Glad Tidings to His Servants who believe and do righteous deeds. Say: "No reward do I ask of you for this except the love of those near of kin." And if any one earns any good, We shall give him an increase of good in respect thereof: for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Ready to appreciate (service).
PICKTHAL: This it is which Allah announceth unto His bondmen who believe and do good works. Say (O Muhammad, unto mankind): I ask of you no fee therefor, save lovingkindness among kinsfolk. And whoso scoreth a good deed We add unto its good for him. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Responsive.
Keep asking questions!
Assalam-Alaikum,
This is interesting. It is the first time that anyone has given me concrete Quranic verse with regards to the prophets family.
I am going to speak to a friend this weekend who is well versed in Quranic Arabic for a more detailed explanation.. Will keep you posted!
Now, I have another question brother Muslim786!
Based on the School of thought that we are discussing here, what would be a solution then to the world as it is today?
There is poverty, oppression, disorder, and disunity amongst muslims in this world..
What would be an Islamic solution to these problems?
I am more interested in actions rather than comparisons as what not to do.
Jazakallah
Salam cooldude,
Very good question. In my opinion the cause of our problems is that we are going away from the true teachings of Islam. It is time that we unite and remove all the minor differences. We should be more liberal.
I had a good detailed discussion with brother Humble on similar issues under the thread “Please Read..before its too late!”…I also invite brother Humble to give his ideas here. Also cooldude read my questions there I asked Humble because Now I will be asking some more questions. Some tough ones
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Again my purpose is not to test his knowledge or anything, I just found it interesting to get those answers from a 25 year old kid (well, because I am 50, so I’d consider him a kid.
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Read my questions there today. They are kinda related to our topic. Again, I am not trying to create any fitna with him or create the old shia-sunni topic, its just I am testing his knowledge. Lets see how long can he play
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jk.
Well, come join me in throwing questions at him (by the way he is a shai, i guess)
Wassalam,
Muslim786
Cool dude,
What other questions should we trap him (Humble)with?
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Come on man, give me some ideas. He is a smart a** but these people differ on some issues from us (ahlesunnah-wal-jamaat).
Help me with some questions that we can mess him up with.
Watch yr language Muslim420 ?
You are no match for shias.
I don't appreciate yr taunts towards humble.
If anyone here is a kid, its Cooldude and the other sunnis on this board.
Ppl like Jawaans are pure heretics
And what are you? Do you know? I dont think so.
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You aint know muslim, only person that is a muslim who follow QURAN AND SUNNAH of MOHAMMAD(pbuh).
You shias are worshippers of graves, and have made islam harder and complicated it more. Soon i will expose you people as well bowing down to graves!!!
You will take your asinines, ignorent faces and minds and never come back into muslim forum again.
Jaawan
till next timeKeep_It_Simple_Stupid
Wise Man says:>What I say won’t really change anything, but what you say doesn’t really matter!
Shah, Assalam-alaikum,
Why are you trying to restart this sunni-shia division?
Bored are we?
Jazakallah