I am amazed at how jahil and ignorant this faceup/logical guy is.
he said in response to the post of shakir regarding to Ar-Raheeq al-Makhtoom by Safi-ur-Rahman al-Mubarakpuri.
Good! We are in agreement; but the wahabis believe differently and also<<
this ignaramous will agree with anything as long as he thinks it is anti-wahabi. Do you know who Safi-ur-Rahman al-Mubarakpuri is and do you know where the above mentioned biography is published? Yep, you'd better start doing some reading up.
Know what i'm talking about? Carry on humiliating yourself.
To Salafi, Logical, everybody else,
If u guys have any input related to the question Cooldude asked, then post it. Otherwise let me and Cooldude have a discussion here. We are trying to have a literate intellectual conversation. Appreciate it.
And by the way, Where are u cooldude? Did u get my last message brother? Please respond.
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Originally posted by salafi:
**I am amazed at how jahil and ignorant this faceup/logical guy is.
he said in response to the post of shakir regarding to Ar-Raheeq al-Makhtoom by Safi-ur-Rahman al-Mubarakpuri.
Good! We are in agreement; but the wahabis believe differently and also<<
this ignaramous will agree with anything as long as he thinks it is anti-wahabi. Do you know who Safi-ur-Rahman al-Mubarakpuri is and do you know where the above mentioned biography is published? Yep, you'd better start doing some reading up.
Know what i'm talking about? Carry on humiliating yourself.**
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The reason why I brought up Saif ur rahman's book is because FACEUP denied the fact by saying "Do you believe Mohammad (p.b.u.h) is a descendent of Ibrahim A.S.?"
Salafi, your Wahabi friend Faceup seems to deny this fact. Either that, or this is the first time he has heard this.
By the way, Saifur Rahman was born in Haussainabad, North India. The book was published in Riyadh, S.A.
[This message has been edited by Shakir75 (edited August 30, 2000).]
To Salafi, Logical, everybody else,
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Wassalam,
Muslim786
Respect has its limits, you dont go around creating new things in religion of Mohammad(pbuh) and call it you are respecting him. To me that is disrespect and i do NOT tolerate that.
Celebrating Mohammad(pbuh)s birthday is a created thing that these people on bases of respect and a good deed. WHen there is no mention of this ritual being done by campanions of the prophet mohmmad(pbuh) there is no hadith or quran verse that tells us that we should do this or if anyone has done this before.
Suhaba were the people who have seen Mohmmmad and LOVED him MORE than them selves and their famlies, if it was nessary to celebrate something like brith of prophet they would have done it. But still they kept the religion like it was revealed and DID NOT creat any new things in islam. Those people could have created it...but they respected the prophet....
Islam was completed 1400 years ago, it does not need any more things being added or subtracted on basis of good deeds or dislikes of some sects of muslim community.
Respecting mohammad(pbuh) is like doing what he did and doing exactly what he did and what his suhaba did and they way they lived their lives....we know that by studying BOOKS OF HADITH....!!!
You are NOT respecting mohammad or allah or campanions of mohammad(pbuh) by adding things in islam on basis of naikii...that is bid'ah and every bid'ah is going to hell.
As i said islam was completed 1400 years ago and we should pratice it like suhaba did...its FULL and its COMPLETE...and if you try to add things into it...those things will be waste and they will NOT benefit you no matter how good they are...if it WAS NOT done by Mohammad(pbuh) his campanions or people after suhaba than ITS NOT ISLAM and its an innovation in islam and ever innovation is going to hell and taking the people who do those innovation with it.
Let me give you an example of a glass full of water: What will happen when you add more water in the glass that is already full of water? the water you are adding will spill on the floor and will be waste and will cause mess...same thing with islam its complete and when you add things into it you are really wasting and creating mess for the whole muslim ummah.
that is the whole difference between Wahabi and these idiots writing stuff against them...wahabies follow QURAN AND ONLY QURAN AND SUNNAH OF MOHAMMAD(pbuh) and these people crreat new things in islam and we stop them and do campaigns to stop them and present them with evidence that those things are bid'ah but they dont listen and keep doing and are bound to follow the religion of their ancestors and hindus rituals.
Muslim786 and his other stupid disbeliever friends who believe innovating islam...i call upon you to come to real and true islam and follow QURAN AND ONLY QURAN NOTHING BUT THE QURAN AND SUNNAH OF MOHAMMAD(pbuh) and leave the practies done by your ancestors and leave the rituals of your hindus brothers...because ever newly created thing is bid'ah and every bid'ah is dalala and every dalala is going to hell.
If not than GOOD LUCK IN HELL i have presented and asked you to come to QURAN and SUNNAH only. May allah open your locked hearts.
I Call you muslim786 and his other ignorent followers to come stop dividing the religion and stop making it harder and complicated...and join the TRUE ISLAM OF QURAN AND NOTHING BUT THE QURAN AND SUNNAH OF MOHAMMAD(pbuh) and leave the practices of your ancestors and rituals of hindus.
Creating new things in islam is Bid'ah(innovation) and every bid'ah is dalala and EVERY dalala is going to hell.
Jaawan
till next time**Keep_It_Simple_Stupid**
**Wise Man says:>What I say won't really change anything, but what you say doesn't really matter!
To Salafi, Logical, jawan, and everybody else,
If u guys have any input related to the question Cooldude asked, then post it. Otherwise let me and Cooldude have a discussion here. We are trying to have a literate intellectual conversation. Appreciate it.
And by the way, Where are u cooldude? Did u get my last message brother? Please respond.
Wassalam,
Muslim786