…emotions.
discuss if you like.
Re: to keep ideology ALIVE, you need
...emotions.
discuss if you like.
**I think you mean Enthusiasm and not Emotions.........:) **
Right?
Re: to keep ideology ALIVE, you need
that is a good perspective. but emotions are crucial as they guid ethe heart - some matters are not to be only by the mind - too much reasoning actually leads to doubts - so there must be a balance between an ideological thinking and it parallel or associated emotions - be these emotions of hope, of attachment or of affnity with a cause.
neglecting emotions, or partially going by self-suited ones (i.e. anger, fear),
will only lead to a very low motivation to pursue something or someone who is or was initially the activated object of all attention, and the reasoning of that attraction to a partiular object or person must have been some emotion - for being drawn to that objct or person.
it will be nice to see a shift in causality of resulting outcomes, if people will not ignore the emotions - that can very well save a situation, be a saving grace.
otherwise, there is no completeness in going after anything in life. only
ideology is a vision - vision is inspired by something or someone, and therefore, there has to be some room for emotion that guded the initial pursual to be kept on board, if you will and 'NOT DISCARDED'
am i making sense?
Re: to keep ideology ALIVE, you need
that is a good perspective. but emotions are crucial as they guid ethe heart -
- for being drawn to that objct or person. it will be nice to see a shift in causality of resulting outcomes, if people will not ignore the emotions - that can very well save a situation, be a saving grace. otherwise, there is no completeness in going after anything in life. only
ideology is a vision - vision is inspired by something or someone, and therefore, there has to be some room for emotion that guded the initial pursual to be kept on board, if you will and 'NOT DISCARDED'
am i making sense?
Yes I agree, however if we step out of the abstract World and be more specific then there is definite difference in emotions evoked for an inanimate object and those evoked for a person.
**If the Ideal is a person Man or Woman, what ones perseption of this perfect person is usually turns out different from what the actual person may be, and that is where we need to accomodate with our mind and not emotions, since emotions demand perfection....:) **
Re: to keep ideology ALIVE, you need
aha, turns out to be, is a hypothetical stand.
you are not being fair there?
are you?
Re: to keep ideology ALIVE, you need
Belief and strong reasons.
with just emotions & enthusiasm you can't keep a FALSE idealogy alive. Hence VALIDITY is also important.
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Peace All
A mind ... and more minds to seed with it.
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positive emotions must never be ignored. as they are what make us humans.
motivation from a real faith, trust and regard for someone and they do really work and will clear the defect of doubts.
we need a surgery of this one - in slicing up the multiple aspects of ideological vision and how it can be actualized, in a valid and mindful manner.
dushwari
Re: to keep ideology ALIVE, you need
...emotions.
discuss if you like.
Basic question is that, Which Idealogy? and Why you want to keep it alive? Now if you can provide well-reasoned answers to these questions to your self, then emotions will surely emerge, and a desire to keep the idealogy alive will flourish and will motivate you.
But does this mean that you need emotions to keep the idealogy alive? Might be, but we surely need good reasons to make ourselves convinced that idealogy(whatever it is) needs to be kept alive. So in a way we don't really need emotions, we actually need good reasons, and when we are convinced, emotions are naturally there, thats how we behave.
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amazingly true and right on the dot. words, you are asking something that gets created when it is made...
so if an ideology is not enlivened, then it's feasibility cannot be ascertained.
elements cannot be attributed their properties and signature qualities.
time, distance, and space as dimensional parameters cannot be stretched out to capture the depths of the heights of all of it - vision, consistency, realization of the vision, need for improving it, inquiry, monitoring, and making peace finally with regulation of emotions that accompanied starting it all...
what is next to next - no one knows, in destiny, for instance.
but what one can do, is make an honest effort to refine and define one's ideological frame work and thereby create a structured pathway for achieving what one set out to achieve.
good reasons are driven by motivation
a classic example is that a new born baby will only be able to have milk. as that what its body needs for nourishing and that's what as an infant, the baby can taken in.
emotions of crying and indicating to the Mother that the baby needs to be fed is very much there, is not it?
i agree that reasons must guide emotions. but, reasons alone, are not conducive to any ideology.
a revolution, a change, does not come about by plain reasons, it has to have the precedent of some wanting emotion - out of fear, out of happiness, or sadness, interest, or disgust or surprise, that an inspired mind can brew the stock of a vision, and then that gets translated either into 'words' or/and in to actions.
examples: abolishing slavery - an out come of emotion of anger and interest in attaining or dying for, even, God given freedom to human kind
life experiences can sometimes, teach hard lessons, and that is always 'felt' - not because of reasons, but because of the feelings, hence the emotions that help create the seal of those experiences and strengthen the end result's impression on the mind of the person who experienced their life experiences.
those people who can deliver their words and keep them by realizing the actions that validate these same words, only then their respective ideology is brought to reality – if nothing else, reason and emotions must go hand in hand, to make our experience – ‘human’.
your perspective is none the less, true, if the idea is to live a mechanistic life - detached from all compassion.
dushwari
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i agree that reasons must guide emotions. but, reasons alone, are not conducive to any ideology.
In the context of humans there is nothing as "reason alone", Your emotions will have to come out, supporting or going against your rational self.
I mean one can get motivated to keep an ideology alive, which she didn't really worked on to know either its worthy to keep alive. Lets assume she works on the issue and comes up with some nice reasons that, idealogy(whatever it is) shouldn't be kept alive, now emotions will come in here as well, but the emotions will now be against the ideology, thus giving her strength to continue on, what seems right to her.
Now behaving emotionally is what human condition is about, but one should use her rational brain to the optimum level, so that she could be emotional about right things, thats what they call emotional intelligence.
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^ i agree.
there is a book by David R. Olson - World on Paper.
talks about literacy and human's ability to capture thoughts into words, to hopefully translate them into a vision of actions.
emotions and rationality go together.