TO BE OR NOT TO BE

are people immitators always?

why can’t people be selfless creators?

is there something lacking in their ability to form percepts which might enable a kindered person, to feel impelled to create something good for the rest?

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"know thyself"

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makes sense.
heal thy self, is useful too.

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Offcourse ppl do create. Not always just immitators!

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create a mess or a child or a problem, or create a solution for a problem?
people get scared, or are selfish and they view negetive more often (it may not be even there, but they vividly view it in someone who intimidates them, who they feel dwarf against), than positive.

what can help the state of mind of not being, when one could try to be?

if one had to encourage someone to be them selves, how to?

if everyone was a selfless creator how would people take the works of others forward, how would we grow as society if there was no sharing of knowledge.

what you call imitation, i call learning.

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people are not always immitators and they do come to play the role of selfless creators. you have to keep in mind, to move forward we build on already established facts to accomplish greater things. think of medicine, astronomy, etc. And those that dedicate their lives to quests of all sorts to better the human race are making immense sacrifices...they are selfless creators.

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That is the question ...

sorry that was too tempting.

The naq'l (tradition) and the 'aqal (reason)

In either case ... we create decisions that is what we do ... manipulate and decide to manipulate.

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let's just not be. let's just become non existent. if this thought is probable, then what might happen to 'being?'.

Do a PhD.

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anyone else, with substantive perspectives?

:salam:

Sister … this is the position of those Sufis who have gone astray. It is the poetic condition of a Muslim to be in a state where he denies his worth to an extent that make his words appear to the onlooker that he has annihilated himself.

Some people actually take these words literally and embark on this self-extinguishing path. It makes them mad, or kills them.

On the other hand to deny ones own existence then we deny the worth in the Creating Force of God. It is true that on a scale of things that God looses no Greatness on account of our existence or not, but to deny that we have any worth or that we are not real is the same as denying the reality in Creation.

When effectively the belief ‘to be’ ends it will unequivocally end ‘being’ for us that is. Rather we should alter the thought of being to a condition of “being in submission” which reflects our insignificance with respect to God but at the same time acknowledges our ‘being’ in such a condition that to be in anything other than “submission” to God is an insult on ourselves and a dire error on account of our blindness.

So I agree we should not just “be” but I don’t think we should become ‘non-existent’ unless it is meant in another sense and that tie in the equation of relativeness to The One, which on any sensible terms is truly nothing or of no significance.

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brother psyah.
amazingly summative. your explicative is exquisitely broad in its scope.
a unique way in which the body decomposes, and becomes dust again, can be explained biologically. but, the soul is not chemical in its substance nor is it skeletal.
in that sense, when the being is so ephemeral, it makes sense to have eternity in the end.

religious notions aside; what are the gains of non substantive but spiritual gains of non-existence.
obviously, the person cannot be absolved of living.
becoming meditative is actually encouraged in the faith, thus there can be little harm in being pensive and solely focused on the nature of subliminal non-existence.

but while one is being on earth, that has taken up so much energy, that it feels justified to question the worth or being.
no?

any thoughts on this?