Just because your attack was hidden and shielded doesn’t mean it was not there. Mirza_Sahib was only replying to the things which you guys, the Indian brigade started without any reason.
Anyone who reads this thread can see that much. We all understand what’s going on and what the aim of the posts you guys posted is. Its not hidden from anyone.
Anyways, I think it would be much better if you guys contributed for constructive purposes in Pak Affairs threads rather than just trying to incite members and lead the discussion away from the topic.
LOL, look who's talking. Anyone can see from your posts Talwar what the purpose of your replies is.
And 1971 was not about extermination of minorities :) It was the result of some wrong policies of certain power hungry leaders, and a lot of fuel in the fire by India. There is not a single political party in Pakistan in the mainstream that has ideologies similar to Shiv Sena which openly is anti-Muslim.
^So how did you escape from the mental asylum? Did you bribe the gatekeepers or did they get sick of you and make you leave? I think you need to go back there.
Talwar bhai.. With all do respect, if were comparing hardliners, I dont recall any of them threatening Indian cricketers when they came to Pakistan do you?
India has a large English language media, so every quote by every hothead gets published in English for all to read. OTOH, Pakistan’s English papers have hardly 100,000 circulation, and vast majority read Urdu papers.
I can post a lot of translated stuff from a lot of Urdu reports from Nawa-i-Waqt, Jasarat, Daily Islam, Jang etc.
Here’s a quote during India’s 2004 tour. It is from Jasarat in late April or early May 2004. It is a quote from some mullah named Qazi Kashif Niaz in a rally that included MMA and jihadi people:
Cricket is an evil and sinful sport. Under the intoxication of the cricket, Pakistanis have forgotten that these Hindu players come from the same nation that had raped our mothers, sisters, daughters, wives and daughter-in-laws. These are the same Hindus who had dismembered Pakistan.’
‘It is so sad that Pakistanis are committing suicides after losing cricket matches to India. But they are not sacrificing their lives to protect the honour of the raped Kashmiri women. To watch a cricket match, we would take a day-off from work. But for jihad, we have no time! It was the ‘British conspiracy to introduce cricket in the Muslim countries. The British gave the Muslims the bat and snatched the sword and said to them: ‘You take this bat and play cricket. Give us your sword. With its help we will kill you and rape your women.’
‘Israel is a very tiny country. It does not play cricket. Therefore, it is progressing. We should throw the bat and seize the sword and instead of hitting ‘six’ or ‘four’, cut the throats of the Hindus and the Jews.’
India has stepped back from 50 years of claiming sovereignty over all Kashmir and instead has effectively recognised the government of Azad Kashmir as an entity with the right to stamp travel documents for people India regards as Indian citizens. The Indian hard liners quite rightly recognise the sheer scale of the climbdown this represents for India.
The events discussed in my point and this thread are the first of what will hopefully be many compromises by Pakistan and by India over Kashmir.
The past 50 years have proven that neither side is politically capable of recognising the other’s long-term claim on Kashmir’s status; and that neither side is capable of militarily ending the issue. Neither side has the economic resources to change that military situation decisively.
In short, the 50 year old policies of both sides have failed spectacularly to end the issue one way or another, and both countries are hurting from it, and the Kashmiri people are in the middle of it all with the national squabble dividing family and breaking apart ancient ties between the people.
Kashmir’s Muslim majority are suffering under the status quo; as Pakistanis, we believe that if India were to seize all of Kashmir then they would suffer even more, and so for 50 years we have struggled to try and limit their suffering.
But what is clear is that 50 years of struggling has not brought us one step closer to ending the suffering altogether. Compromise, and only compromise, has anything nearing a remote chance of reducing the Kashmiri people’s suffering; letting their families unite, let their old bonds reform, and yet protecting their identity from being dominated by a national majority of another religion.
If it was an entermination policy, then it was pretty pathetically done since the overwhelming majority of ethnic Bengalis and Bengali Hindus in particular ended up alive.
Indeed, if it was an attempt to exterminate Bengalis then why were Bengalis in West Pakistan merely interned rather than executed?
The most the facts can concede was that 1971 was an effort by ethnic minorities in Pakistan to ethnically clean out into India Bengali Hindus and forcibly intimidate Pakistan’s Bengali Muslim majority into political silence. Aweful crimes, true, but nowhere near extermination policies.
It was a poor response. Irem was pointing out the presence of extremists in India over the past 12 to 2 years, whereas you were pointing out the presence of extremist mentality in Pakistan 34 years ago.
what foking attack? This is a discussion about Kashmir not being in the map that YOU saw on pak tv. Now show what useful idea the mirza shaveup has contributed, other hokding a lantern for you in the chasm?
ps: anyone with a sense in excess of a pinhead can see I contribute more to pakistanis’ well being than most pakistanis here.
By the same token can we say that you have a hidden attack in every post and respond in kind?
