Were talking about bridal make up right? well my make up came to £500 trial included so even 10% calls for a £50 tip... Just not happening... That would have been almost £100 in just tipping the MUA for the two days! and I would feel a bit silly slipping someone like Ambreen a fiver for her efforts!
LOL
even the other artist I used and use regularly Seema Syed - I call her Seema **Baji **and slipping her a tip would just seem a bit weird...
i dont know if they actually DO but I have a feeling that UK MUA especially the established ones factor in all costs when pricing...
**You know retail is also a 'service' industry but i don't tip the sales assistants in selfridges
**Each to their own! Not something I do.
YES!! I just went and bought shoes from Holt Renfrew (I guess the Selfridges equivalent) and the sales girl spent so much time and effort helping me but I didn't tip her. I mean where does it end? I don't get tipped and I guess you could say I work in a service industry as well.
With a price tag of $450 for bridal hair, makeup & dressing, I would assume tip is built in because an extra $90 is ridic.
its not possible for the average girl to get a desi bridal look on her own. I dont mind paying whats reasonable but the Rs20-30K price tag is loot, thats my opinion. If people things thats a fair price tag, then they're entitled to that opinion.
And its because of the ridiculous price tag that i dont believe in tipping them thats all....
As I wrote already, I did not tip the MUA who did my bridal MU/Hair. The issue here isn't you not tipping. The reason you got such a harsh reaction is b/c of the way you worded it.
not those who have taken advantage of the fact that i wish to look nice, cant do decent make up myself, and fear the fact that if i paid any less then there's a chance i'd look like a 50-50.
You yourself admit that it's not possible for a average desi girl to do a proper desi bridal on her own. It takes years of experience and training to do desi bridal MU/Hair/dupatta setting etc. Good MUA's also invest a lot money on good quality brand name products (The MUA I went to had studio full of MAC, Kryolan, and Laura Mercier). They spend their own money on courses, additional training, hiring employees to help with their business, overhead for office rent, advertising etc. On top of paying all the business expenses, they also need to make a profit. And it's entirely upto them to decide just how much profit they want to make out of their career.
They are simply offering a service. Its not different than designers wanting VERY high amounts for outfits, purses, shoes etc. As a customer, it is upto us to decide whether or not we want to pay for a certain product. But when it comes to a luxury (and yes, being able to pay someone to do bridal MU is a LUXURY b/c plenty of poor people out there don't have this option), it's ridiculous for you to say that the vendor is taking advantage of you. Yes, there are vendors that overcharge for their services. But you as a consumer are in control. So if you choose to hire a vendor while being fully aware that you're being overcharged....then it's not a case where the vendor is taking advantage of you.
^ dekhiye, aggar aap ko inn ki price sahi lag rahi haiN, then great. I think its too much, i wrote how i feel... and how does how i feel about a topic affect anyone? Goodness, its not like i'm bad-ikhlaaq to any MUA... i dont bargain, i say my thanks, compliment their work, dont tip but leave thinking ouch i just spent wayyyy to much... am i not allowed that? cant i have an opinion on a matter that differs to the majority as long as i keep it to myself? does everybody on this part of the forum have to be on the "they charge fairly bandwagon?", are we not allowed to "feel" differently as well?
maybe a lot of you are earning in dollars/ pound but Rs30K is a LOT in this country (as compared to someone who earns $AUD 60K, and spends $AUD 500 on makeup)....
ps. its not like MUA are just meeting ends with these price tags.
^ There is a difference between thinking “ouch I spent too much” and saying that someone took advantage of me. What you wrote in your original post is nothing close to “ouch I spent waaay too much”.
I don’t doubt that Rs30K is A LOT for many people living back home. So what? We’re talking about a LUXURY item here. If someone can’t afford it, they can still live without it. I love Fendi/Dior purses but don’t own a single one b/c paying $700+ for a purse is above my means. But that doesn’t mean that Fendi and Dior are taking advantage of me somehow.
You need to re-read what I wrote. I even wrote at an earlier post that I knew that my MUA was overpriced when I hired her for my bridal MU. I’m simply saying that no one is taking advantage of you when YOU choose pay for their services. You are more than welcome to share a opinion that’s different. And in return, other people are allowed to strongly disagree with it too.
Why should a MUA devote her career into making enough money just to make ends meet? He/She also has a right to charge as much as they can so they can provide the most comfortable lifestyle for themselves and their families. Regardless of the price, clearly someone is earning enough money to pay for a bride to have her make-up done (usually the bride’s father in desi culture). So if a bride herself or her parents can make enough income (by whatever legal means) to be able to afford such luxuries…there is no reason a MUA should not earn enough so they can also afford luxury items, well above just meeting ends.
P.S. Please don’t make it seem like somehow those of us living in the West are rich and $500 is nothing to us. Yes, we earn in dollars…but we also pay for EVERYTHING in dollars. Housing, food, clothing, gas, travel…every-single-thing is paid for in dollars by us. And plenty of 2-income families in the West also do all their house work b/c hiring a maid, driver, gardener etc. isn’t an option due to cost. And just b/c someones salary is $60K…that doesn’t mean they go home with $60K. Taxes, social security, medicaid etc. take out quite a bit.
^ dekhiye, aggar aap ko inn ki price sahi lag rahi haiN, then great. I think its too much, i wrote how i feel... and how does how i feel about a topic affect anyone? Goodness, its not like i'm bad-ikhlaaq to any MUA... i dont bargain, i say my thanks, compliment their work, dont tip but leave thinking ouch i just spent wayyyy to much... am i not allowed that? cant i have an opinion on a matter that differs to the majority as long as i keep it to myself? does everybody on this part of the forum have to be on the "they charge fairly bandwagon?", are we not allowed to "feel" differently as well?
maybe a lot of you are earning in dollars/ pound but Rs30K is a LOT in this country (as compared to someone who earns $AUD 60K, and spends $AUD 500 on makeup)....
ps. its not like MUA are just meeting ends with these price tags.
May I ask what you do for a living? Do you have a job?
Do you work because you need to make ends meet or do you want to actually reach a point of financial stability/success?
I am asking because how would you feel if your entire day was spent on your feet, working, no breaks, being watched non-stop, even critiqued at times and you walk away with just enough to cover the gas it took you to get there? Would that be more satisfying? A MUA spends a TON of money trying to get the kind of products she needs in order to deliver the results expected. If it was so easy and she's a complete rip off - you'd be doing it yourself.
She may charge you but she has overhead, supplies, employees who also get paid and its her right to walk away with a profit because its her business. Payment in exchange for services rendered. Services have been rendered at a price that was agreed upon in advance. That's not taking advantage of someone. Those are basic business ethics.
This is so sad! People think that if you are working in service industry you are ripping them off.. I used to work as an event planner and people always complain that we don't really do anything! I actually feel bad for all the MUAs. They work so hard to make us look amazing on our special day and instead of being thankful we make them feel that they took advantage of us.
He/She also has a right to charge as much as they can so they can provide the most comfortable lifestyle for themselves and their families. Regardless of the price, clearly someone is earning enough money to pay for a bride to have her make-up done (usually the bride’s father in desi culture). So if a bride herself or her parents can make enough income (by whatever legal means) to be able to afford such luxuries…there is no reason a MUA should not earn enough so they can also afford luxury items, well above just meeting ends.