Tip of the Iceberg of Hidden Secrets in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia

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Saudi Official’s Son Arrested In Child Porn Bust

Miami Beach police said a tip from an organization that monitors child pornography on the Internet led them to arrest the son of a high-ranking Saudi official.[Three beheaded for homosexuality
By a Staff Writer RIYADH, 2 January � Three Saudi men convicted of sodomy and marrying each other were beheaded yesterday in the southwestern city of Abha, the Interior Ministry said in a statement.

Ali ibn Hatan ibn Saad, Mohammad ibn Suleiman ibn Mohammad and Mohammad ibn Khalil ibn Abdullah were found guilty of engaging in the extreme obscenity and ugly acts of homosexuality, marrying among themselves and molesting the young. The statement said the three men repeated the acts several times and assaulted people who told them to stop. A Shariah court sentenced them to death and the judgment was confirmed by the high court and the Supreme Judiciary Council.

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A Foreign woman was running a prostitution ring in Madinah: August 4th, 2002
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Brothel keeper gets 15-year jail, 5,000 lashes
By a Staff Writer
RIYADH, 4 August � A court has sentenced a foreign woman to 15 years in jail and 5,000 lashes for running a prostitution ring in Madinah, Al-Eqtisadiah reported yesterday. The same court sentenced six other women and four men to prison terms ranging between five and 10 years and 1,000 to 3,000 lashes each, after they were caught by the religious police, Al-Eqtisadiah daily said. The court also ordered the brothel where the men and women, Arabs and Africans, were arrested to be demolished and the land confiscated, while its Saudi owners will be rebuked in public. According to the ruling, the lashes will be administered over several years.

A 17-year old boy tried to commit bestiality with a camel in Saudia Arabia: August 5th, 2002

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Jail and lashes for bestial teenager
By Saqar Al-Amry, Arab News Staff

JEDDAH, 5 August � A court in northern Saudi Arabia has sentenced a Nigerian teenager to six months in jail and 240 lashes for having sex with a camel.

Dr. Eisa Abdullah Al-Ghaith, a judge at a summary court in Tabuk, told Arab News that the court found the 17-year-old boy guilty of “having tried to have sexual relations with a camel.”

But the camel�s owner said the young Nigerian “got into his farm and had sex” with the dromedary. The teenager was arrested by police while he was trying to have sex with one of the camels.

The teenager confessed before the court that he intended to have sex with the camel. Ghaith said the lashes will be administered in six installments of 40 lashes each with an interval of seven days.

Chargers dropped against 3 gang members in Saudi Arabia (2 Pakistani, 2 Saudi’s, who were connected to drug and prostitution rings in the Kingdom): October 8th, 2004

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1&section=0&article=52571&d=8&m=10&y=2004

Court Drops Death Sentence for Three Gang Members
Staff Writer
JEDDAH, 8 October 2004 � The Court of Cassation has dropped the death sentence for three men accused of taking part in a series of armed robberies targeting a number of local Saudi banks and replaced it with imprisonment, but upheld the death sentence for a fourth suspect described as the leader of the four-member gang. The four had earlier appealed the sentence. The court ordered the revision of the death sentence imposed by an earlier three-judge special judicial committee.

The four suspects are three Saudi nationals and a Pakistani. Two Saudis and the Pakistani had their death sentences dropped while the court upheld the death sentence for the fourth, the Saudi gang leader, according to Okaz.

The group was wanted in connection with drug trafficking, prostitution and blackmail. The suspects were arrested shortly after committing their last two robberies in October last year.

The Court of Cassation took into consideration the young age of the three men and the fact that they had no previous criminal record. Two of the three are younger brothers of the gang leader and were said to have been tempted into joining the gang.

A woman involved with the gang was sentenced to five years in prison.
A police investigation following the arrests revealed that the suspects had been involved with a mother and her 19-year-old daughter. The mother would invite various wealthy businessmen to her house to engage in sexual acts with the daughter for money. The gang would then burst into the room and claim to be the brothers of the 19-year-old woman and demand money to spare his life. In two cases the gang managed to take SR1 million from one man and SR500,000 from another.

  1. Jail and Lashes for 3 in Camera and Phone Sex Assault, videotaping a cab driver raping a girl he was driving:

January 7th, 2005

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1&section=0&article=57168&d=7&m=1&y=2005

Jail and Lashes for 3 in Camera Phone Sex Assault
Arab News

RIYADH, 7 January 2005 � Two young Saudis have been sentenced by the high court here to prison terms and flogging for orchestrating and filming a Nigerian driver sexually assaulting a 17-year-old girl, Al-Watan newspaper reported yesterday.

Judge Muhammad ibn Abdullah Al-Luhaidan sentenced the main defendant, Barjis ibn Faleh, 27, to 12 years imprisonment and 1,200 lashes, while compatriot Abdulrahman ibn Haif, 22, was sentenced to two years and 200 lashes, Al-Watan reported.

�The Nigerian driver who appeared in the film, Youssef Abkar Mohammad Abdullah, was sentenced to a six-year imprisonment and 600 lashes,� the paper said.

The scandal, which shocked the conservative Saudi society, broke out after the accused circulated footage of the assault through mobile phones equipped with cameras.

The trio used the camera phone Panda and distributed the phone clip using Blue Tooth and on websites.

The trio came to be known as the Panda gang.

The phone clip shows the girl pleading as she is assaulted by the driver, while one of the two young men, apparently her former boyfriend, hurls abuse at her.

Legal sources told Al-Watan that the high court�s decision was not final and that the accused could appeal the decision to the supreme judicial council which will issue a final decision.

Sources also told Al-Watan that the lashes would not be delivered at one go but would be distributed every Friday until the punishment is completed.

The two Saudis were arrested last July after the girl�s family lodged a complaint.

Many people in Saudi Arabia had expressed anger at the men�s behavior on Internet sites. They had demanded tough punishment for the three so it will be a lesson to everyone.

Once the video clip was distributed, the police arrested the three gang members and detained them in Al-Sulaimaneya prison for investigation and later transferred to Al-Hayer prison southeast of Riyadh.

  1. Jeddah Police Bust Dangerous Burglary Gang (who raped women in various parts of city):
    February 5th, 2005

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1&section=0&article=58528&d=5&m=2&y=2005

Jeddah Police Bust Dangerous Burglary Gang
Arab News

JEDDAH, 5 February 2005 � Police in Jeddah arrested a gang of criminals involved in robbery and rape in various districts of the city. The arrest took place on Thursday after police closely monitored the movements of the gang members and collected information about them.

Col. Muhammad Al-Maqati, director of criminal investigation, led the search for the criminals who recently burgled a villa of a prominent citizen and assaulted his maid.

According to Okaz daily, the gang members were African nationals and had been involved in a number of armed robberies and attack on individuals. The paper described the criminals as one of the most dangerous gangs arrested by police in three years.

Police have started questioning the criminals and located the goods they had robbed from houses and shops. The criminals acknowledged that they had burgled a posh villa in Al-Hamra district and taken away money and other valuables.

NSHR Discusses Steps to Deal With Sexual Abuse
Maha Akeel � Arab News

JEDDAH, 5 January 2005 � Members of the National Society for Human Rights (NSHR) in Makkah met yesterday with the higher court president to discuss laws and regulations on the issue of sexual abuse within the family.

The issue is very sensitive and has been one of the taboos in the media but it gained national attention recently after the society�s family committee took upon itself presenting the case of two teenage girls filing a complaint against their father in court.

The mother and her daughters filed the complaint with the NSHR, and the head of the family committee, Al-Jowhara Al-Angari, gave the case a priority in taking it to court and following it through.

�We are meeting with the court president to discuss the procedures and implementation of rulings given in such cases which have to be severe,� Al-Angari told Arab News.

The higher court held the second session of the case on Saturday but has not reached a decision yet.

According to Al-Madinah newspaper, the girls are seeking the death penalty for their father because they say he ruined their lives and turned them into hell.

�If we can�t have a death sentence for such a crime then we should at least pass a life sentence,� said Al-Angari.

The father is completing a 10-year jail sentence for his crime but efforts have been made to reduce it to five years.

The girls� lawyer is asking that the father be revoked of guardianship of the girls. �Revoking guardianship should be an automatic decision once sentencing has been passed rather than make the victims go through the ordeal again,� said Al-Angari.

The NSHR is intervening in another case of sexual abuse by rescuing two sisters from school because it could not reach them at home. The mother sought the society�s assistance in rescuing her 17-year-old daughter from the father who physically abused her. The girl was also molested by a relative of the father, according to Al-Madinah newspaper.
The younger daughter, a 14-year-old, was also abused and has attempted suicide several times, claimed the mother. She could not keep the daughters with her because she does not have a place of her own and is staying with her sister and brother-in-law. The NSHR is in the process of collecting information on this case to present it to court.
Al-Angari told Arab News that the family committee is conducting a comprehensive study on abuse with all its manifestations in Saudi society. �We want to present solutions and procedures that guarantee the rights of the abused. We are approaching the topic from two angles, prevention and remedy,� she said.

The society�s role is as consultants, and to monitor and follow up, explained Al-Angari, they do not have executive power.

The committee is collecting information on all abuse cases and compiling a database for the study which will take some time. �It is not clear how prevalent abuse is but the fact that it exists in our society is a problem and needs to be addressed,� she said.

The problem with sexual abuse cases is in taking swift and forceful action against the abusers as well as passing harsh sentences that match the enormity of the crime. A case in point is the one reported last week by Al-Watan newspaper.

A father sexually and physically abused his then three-year-old daughter who is now five years old and suffering from mental retardation and in a coma. The mother, who is a teacher in Makkah, said that her husband was abusive, and was addicted to alcohol and drugs.

�He sexually attacked his daughter and inflicted burns on her body and beat her severely causing her brain damage. He was sentenced to 30 months in jail and 350 lashes. He has been in jail for four months now,� she said. She discovered the sexual abuse when her daughter complained of pain when going to the bathroom and confessed to her what the father did when he kidnapped her and took her to Riyadh after the mother filed a police complaint against him for abusing the daughter.


Saudi man executed, after it was found he raped two women, kidnapped one, filmed the rape while other women also watched, and he sold Hashih and weapons illegally: November 30th, 2004
http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1&section=0&article=55305&d=30&m=11&y=2004

Convicted Saudi Rapist Executed
Saudi Press Agency

JEDDAH, 30 November 2004 � A Saudi man was executed here yesterday after being convicted of raping two women and several other crimes.

Mansour ibn Ahmed Al-Bahluli raped the two women, one of whom he had kidnapped, in separate incidents, the Interior Ministry said a statement. The man had also committed adultery with other women �whom he filmed in the act of having sex, in addition to filming other naked women,� it added. Copies of these videos were found in his possession. Bahluli was also convicted of selling hashish, of possessing arms and ammunition illegally, and sheltering a girl who had run away from her parents, the ministry said.


Raniaï’s Husband Gets Six Months in Jail, 300 Lashes for Almost beating her to death shattering her face into pieces:

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Muhammad Al-Fallatta and Rania Al-Baz

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JEDDAH, 31 May 2004 � Rania Al-Baz�s husband has been sentenced to six months in jail and 300 lashes for beating his wife almost to death.
[size=2]On April 4, Muhammad Bakar Yunus Al-Fallatta attacked the popular TV presenter, pinning her to the floor and repeatedly smashing her face into the marble tiles and the walls while choking her. He then dumped her unconscious at Bugshan Hospital.
She barely escaped with her life, suffering 13 facial fractures, and continues to undergo reconstructive surgery. Doctors say she has a 70 percent chance of complete recovery.
Al-Fallatta surrendered to the police on April 19 and originally faced an attempted murder charge, later reduced to severe battery.
Judge Ibrahim Al-Jarbou announced the verdict on Saturday in the presence of Al-Baz�s lawyer, Dr. Omar Al-Khouli, the prosecutor and the husband.
Al-Fallatta �seemed to accept the sentence,� Al-Khouli told Arab News. The six months include time served since his surrender, leaving four and a half months to complete.
The sentence is relatively lenient for such cases, according to Al-Khouli, but the judge took several mitigating factors into consideration. What they were Al-Khouli declined to say.
Rania Al-Baz said she did not wish to comment on the sentence, since she is anxiously waiting for the decision on her divorce and a decision on custody of her child.
Under Shariah, Al-Baz has a private as well as a public claim. The present sentence covers the public claim only. Al-Khouli expects a judgment in the private claim to come some time before Al-Fallatta is released from jail, though it will probably take another month.
If Al-Baz insists on compensation for her suffering, Al-Fallatta could either be ordered to pay damages or, in theory, be given a beating of equal severity to the one he inflicted on his wife. However, in practice the penalty is likely to be monetary, Al-Khouli said.
However, Al-Baz is more concerned about being granted a divorce and full custody of her two boys.
According to Shariah, in the event of a divorce, the mother gets custody of the children until the age of seven; after that, a boy is given the option of staying with his father or mother, with the other parent given visitation rights. Girls are given to the father.
Exceptions are made in unusual circumstances; however, in Saudi courts, judges usually rule in favor of the father, regardless of his character or ability to support the children.
Al-Baz said she stayed with her husband despite his history of violence because she was afraid she would be denied custody of her children. In cases of abuse and other situations in which the father is found unfit to have custody, the wife may get guardianship or permanent custody. Al-Khouli has indicated before that in a case abuse as extreme as Al-Baz�s, the judge could grant her permanent custody.
[size=2]In the meantime, Al-Fallatta is making the case difficult by refusing to agree to a divorce, which leaves the judge with the option of revoking the marriage contract.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1874471.stm

Friday, 15 March, 2002, 12:19 GMT**

**Saudi police ‘stopped’ fire rescue because girls were not wearing correct islamic dress at the time.
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The Mecca city governor visited the fire-damaged school

Saudi Arabia’s religious police stopped schoolgirls from leaving a blazing building because they were not wearing correct Islamic dress, according to Saudi newspapers.

In a rare criticism of the kingdom’s powerful “mutaween” police, the Saudi media has accused them of hindering attempts to save 15 girls who died in the fire on Monday.

About 800 pupils were inside the school in the holy city of Mecca when the tragedy occurred.

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15 girls died in the blaze and more than 50 others were injured

According to the al-Eqtisadiah daily, firemen confronted police after they tried to keep the girls inside because they were not wearing the headscarves and abayas (black robes) required by the kingdom’s strict interpretation of Islam.

One witness said he saw three policemen “beating young girls to prevent them from leaving the school because they were not wearing the abaya”.

The Saudi Gazette quoted witnesses as saying that the police - known as the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice - had stopped men who tried to help the girls and warned “it is a sinful to approach them”.

The father of one of the dead girls said that the school watchman even refused to open the gates to let the girls out.

“Lives could have been saved had they not been stopped by members of the Commission for Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice,” the newspaper concluded.**

Relatives’ anger**

Families of the victims have been incensed over the deaths.

Most of the victims were crushed in a stampede as they tried to flee the blaze.

The school was locked at the time of the fire - a usual practice to ensure full segregation of the sexes.

The religious police are widely feared in Saudi Arabia. They roam the streets enforcing dress codes and sex segregation, and ensuring prayers are performed on time.

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Re: Tip of the Iceberg of Hidden Secrets in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia

Given that these are just the news articles related to KSA, they're better suited here than in Religion forum.

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:clap: :clap: :clap:

Good job…:k: Thanks for sharing all that info…

Now we know that Saudi authorities are strict in enforcing laws that corrupt society…All the perpetrators were caught and punished in all the instances you mention…

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P.S. This thread serves as a good example of why the quickies should have remained on top...:D

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Yes, it’s much better to let girls burn to death than allow them out in the public without “proper” dress on Lajawab. :halo:

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Ease up babes…It was a first case scenario…The authorities got grilled for it as it never happened in the past…

Do you forget Katrina? And it wasn’t even a first case scenario…

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lajwawab is a jerk cuz he doesnt answer my private messages or keep in touch!

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I don't understand, if these majority of these news are already in "Arab News" paper, then how are they "hidden secrets"?

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Well, I challenge you to find these stories in any other newspaper in the world, and tell me what you come up with. I am sure you will find close to nothing.

This showcases exactly that Saudi Arabia's system of justice is not working, you do not command the faithful with such a system of governing as is in place right now. They have brought in alcohol for the Americans and foreigners living there to consume, various corrupt Western ideals and immoral behaviour are striking at the heart of the way of life for most of the people who live in Saudi Arabia. There are Muslim men who are engaging in lewdness with CAMELS for God's sake! And there are homosexual predators out there as well such as the saudi government mutawwa police who prey on young boys...lajawab, i'm not the least bit surprised by your comment.

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:konfused: when a news is report already in ANY media, its not “hidden secret” anymore.

I NEVER believed in ANY justice system around the GLOBE. There is bar none. There may be justice served here and there, but no system is perfect, all have flaws, political associations, political influences etc. etc. There will be justice available to some level at fairly good population but that doesn’t mean that its flawless.

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The point is why is this information not publicized. I think that it's pretty obvious as to why. You cannot even access these articles without going into the archives of their website and accessing these articles date.

You're playing on semantics - there is far worse that goes on the Kingdom than what you have just read of what I have posted. Ever heard of young boys being kidnapped and molested by the Saudi police, Mutawwas? I have because I know many families who do not even know each other, who this has been done to, and they all have said exactly the same thing. You're not obliged to believe it, I am just relating something to you.

You may also want to take a deeper look into mass purchase of fair and young philipino boys every year into the Kingdom for the Prince's to do as they please with.

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YSM: I know there goes a lot and lot and lot which is not reported, but what YOU are showing us here is what has ALREADY BEEN reported in the media. Its not MEDIA's responsibility to grab each person and make him read all the papers. Its OUR failure to read and point the article WHEN it was published. By all this, I don't mean to defend Saudi Kingdom at all, I'm all against it, whatever they do in name of Islam is just downright pathetic. But Saudi society is just like anyother society of the world, crimes happen, they get reported or get shoved under the carpet etc. etc.

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I was in the Gulf last month for work and I can honestly tell you that they have some very, very serious societal issues to deal with that are absolutely unrelated to religion.

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Saudi Arabia has huge issues that it needs to start dealing with, brushing things under the rug anmd pretending they dont go on or are unusual is not a solution. .

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are you 'responding' to a post or just jhaaring your general philosophy? :D

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This is a so called Islamic state Mr. Captain. In such a scenario, no excuses are acceptable, because they claim to be following Shari'ah law, yet alcohol flows in the two holy cities for foreigners, especially Americans.

My man, there are US Military bases built there for God's sake. Where the U.S. took off in their airplanes from these bases to launch aerial raids on Iraq for both Gulf Wars that happened.

I'm sure you'll come up with an excuse for this as well, but don't forget that they have cooperated with the West since 1901, and have assisted them on various occasions to damage the Muslim Ummah in many different circumstances.

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^ YSM: Last I heard, the name of that country was "Kindom of Saudi Arabia", has it changed? Since when did "Kingdom" become Islamic form of government? Saudi Arabia is just another country who uses Islam to control the ruled people. Islamic rules are for the ruled people alone, when there is such distinction, the country and government is automatically "non-Islamic" no matter how much they claim to be "shariah compliant" :)

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very true:)

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Only a Kingdom that is supported by Heavens is correct. The Amir of the Muslims should be respected and followed by the Muslims - unless he does something that contravenes the Islamic way of life.

Whatever your opinion may be on the Uthmani Sultans, it still does not EXCUSE the least bit, Saudi raids and invasions of Makkah and Madinah and Ta'if, murdering hundreds of thousands of Muslims so that they could capture the Hijaz. Go check your history books.

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How would YOU know which kingdom is supported and which is not by Heavens? :)

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Whatever your opinion may be on the Uthmani Sultans, it still does not EXCUSE the least bit, Saudi raids and invasions of Makkah and Madinah and Ta'if, murdering hundreds of thousands of Muslims so that they could capture the Hijaz. Go check your history books.
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For the umpteenth time, no one agrees with Saudi's "Kingdom", to me they are just like The Uthmani "Sultans" :)