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Some take admiration to cult level just like majority of "insafains"
well such cult following is everywhere. This is true not just for insafians, but jiyalas and nawazians too. Admittedly Insafians a tad bit more.
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well such cult following is everywhere. This is true not just for insafians, but jiyalas and nawazians too. Admittedly Insafians a tad bit more.
historically speaking Muslim League is less cult party then others, if nawaz can be forcibly retire or something PMLN still have a long line of corruption free, clean and good people take for ex. Shahbaz Shareef, Ahsan Iqbal, Mehtab Khan, Zulfuqar Khosa, sabir shah, saad Rafique, Ayaz Amir, Khawaja Asif, ishaq dar, Iqbal zafar jhagra, mushaid Ullah khan, ghaus Ali shah, raja zafar ul haq, rafiq tarrar, ... & other looney toonies.
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So you think that Noon’s headship can go out of Sharif family? 
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^ Nope not even in next 10 years, but let me say this also that if IK is not their PTI will gone with the wind it's too much on one man shoulders.
but you know PMLN still have the best, clean, sincere political people, these people who are really the politicians no cricketes or businessman turn into politicians. Difference buddy !
Crying out loud from last 16+ years that I am clean so vote for me, give me a break Pakistan is a nation not a laboratory to conduct experiments.
dont you think only way forward is timely and peaceful elections?
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haha it will be hugely naive of you to even imagine that PML-N will be given to someone other than shareef. If that were the case, Kh Saad Rafique would not have to threaten when Hamza Shahbaz was brought as youth wing president 
I have no doubt that some of the names you mentioned are credible but seeing them leading PML-N nah… not gonna happen 
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Marium is ready phr jab woh jayegi uske bache ajayega 
Re: TIME’s Aryn Baker Discusses Imran Khan’s Chances of Becoming Pakistan’s PM
historically speaking Muslim League is less cult party then others, if nawaz can be forcibly retire or something PMLN still have a long line of corruption free, clean and good people take for ex. Shahbaz Shareef, Ahsan Iqbal, Mehtab Khan, Zulfuqar Khosa, sabir shah, saad Rafique, Ayaz Amir, Khawaja Asif, ishaq dar, Iqbal zafar jhagra, mushaid Ullah khan, ghaus Ali shah, raja zafar ul haq, rafiq tarrar, ... & other looney toonies.
Ayaz Amir and Ahsan Iqbal are good people for sure. can't say much about the rest.
Shahbaz Sharif - not sure about his honesty but he is a hard-working CM for sure + a good administrator (much better than the other useless CMs currently)
Raja Zafar ul Haq (Zia's chamcha) and Khwaja Asif 'clean' politcians .... must be joking mate
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^ Raja Zafar ul haq is a nice man, I have studied with his son and he was the most down to the earth guy that I have seen (depicted the family upbringing). Similary I have worked with one of the relatives of JhagRa and he was a nice fellow as well. No doubt PMLN has some very good people, but with Sharif's controlling them I dont see them performing much.
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problem is not with the core team of pmln, the problem is the mentality of the sharifs. they have good, educated and honest people but shahbaz sharif doesnt trust them, hence around 17 ministries with the most competent person pakistan has ever produced (choti tind). sharifs have got multiple times to rule the country, but they have never been able to deliver even in the presence of this 'team' which shows their incompetency than anything else.
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Yup Raja zafar ul haq is down to earth same is true for saad Rafique and sabir shah - but Zulfuqar Khosa sons are more like typical sardars, Shahbaz tried to "khudey-lain" Khosas but oh well..
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problem is not with the core team of pmln, the problem is the mentality of the sharifs. they have good, educated and honest people but shahbaz sharif doesnt trust them, hence around 17 ministries with the most competent person pakistan has ever produced (choti tind).
that can't be justified by SS, but he have his own reasons still Punjab is doing better the other provinces. SS for PM hope so.
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problem is not with the core team of pmln, the problem is the mentality of the sharifs. they have good, educated and honest people but shahbaz sharif doesnt trust them, hence around 17 ministries with the most competent person pakistan has ever produced (choti tind). sharifs have got multiple times to rule the country, but they have never been able to deliver even in the presence of this 'team' which shows their incompetency than anything else.
Their mentality is only limited to Sasti Roti,Youth Festival,Helmet,Laptops and Raiwind
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Saad Rafiq might be a good, competent and honest man, but who’d lead PMLN after the Sharif’s? Its every ones guess…
Maryam, Hamza vie for limelight | DAWN.COM
**ISLAMABAD: Although Mian Nawaz Sharif, the chief of the main opposition PML-N, is yet to anoint anybody from within his family as future leader of the party, Maryam Nawaz and Hamza Shahbaz are working hard for the mantle.
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Ms Maryam, who manages the newly-formed high-tech media cell in Lahore, is regularly seen tweeting on the party affairs and has significantly increased its presence in the social media.
On the other hand, Hamza Shahbaz Sharif, a sitting member of the National Assembly, addressed back-to-back election rallies in the constituencies where by-elections were held last week. He has been hailed for mobilising party supporters which led to the convincing win in all seven — two National Assembly and five provincial assembly — seats.
Of course, being daughter of the elder Sharif, Ms Maryam has an obvious advantage over her cousin Hamza, son of Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif, who is known for his close contact with party workers at the grassroots level.
Hamza was the only family member who was allowed by Gen Pervez Musharraf to remain in Pakistan to look after family business during the Sharif brothers’ nearly 10 years’ exile in Saudi Arabia.
According to party insiders, Hamza was a clear front-runner to be heir apparent of the PML-N chief until the middle of this year when reports about his second marriage appeared in the media, which he vehemently denied. But the reports did dent his reputation as a politician, especially in the eyes of the senior Sharif.
“Before the infamous marriage scandal which the media, particularly electronic media, avariciously covered, Hamza was in the lead role and could be seen sitting alongside Nawaz Sharif in the party meetings. This position is now being occupied by Maryam,” said a party insider.
After the marriage scandal which, according to some in the party, was concocted to hurt his political life, Hamza took the backseat and Maryam started appearing in the party functions.
“Initially, Mian Nawaz Sharif was all for young Hamza, but after the marriage scandal which remained in the headlines for weeks, he agreed to let Maryam step in politics,” said a party source. Originally, the family wasn’t in favour of Maryam joining politics, claimed the source.
After Hassan and Hussain, sons of Nawaz Sharif, who are apparently happy handling the family business, refused to join politics, Hamza was an automatic choice to lead the party. He was the one who drove his uncle from Lahore during the famous long march which resulted in restoration of the judiciary in March 2009.
But regardless of whether or not Maryam succeeds in politics, the family has decided to give her a fair chance, said a party office-bearer who did not want to be named. “Begum Kalsoom Nawaz Sharif is the one who has actually pushed her daughter, a PhD candidate, towards politics,” the source said.
Captain (retd) Muhammad Safdar, son-in-law of Nawaz Sharif, according to party sources, also wanted his wife to take a lead role in the party politics, but in the end it was Nawaz Sharif’s call to allow her. Although Maryam has been without any formal portfolio in the organisational structure of PML-N over the past six months, she can seen sitting in all important party meetings.
The party insiders strongly believe that her presence in all committees and sub-committees, including the important manifesto committee, indicates that she is going to have a bigger role in the party.
She is also managing the party office in Lahore, where people involved in the administrative affairs of the party directly report to her. Her main interest is in media management for the party and for this she is being helped by former senator and information minister Tariq Azeem who has joined the PML-N.
Senator Mushahidullah Khan, chief spokesperson for the PML-N, told Dawn that she was learning ‘ins and outs’ of politics.
“Maryam Bibi has no formal responsibility within the party, whereas Hamza is already playing an active role.”
A senior party lawmaker said succession in political parties was a natural phenomenon, “and we being part of the dynastic politics of South Asia where families matter the most, somebody from within the Sharif family had to take the charge. Let’s see who takes the charge.”
The PML-N leader agreed that of late Maryam had been playing quite an active role in party politics. On the other hand, the lawmaker who claimed to be in close contact with the party leadership said, Hamza was at present working hard to get over the marriage fiasco. “He is now on a recovery path and following orders of the party high command,” he said, adding that Hamza’s role in by-elections would probably help him regain some of the ground he had lost to the marriage scandal.
Re: TIME’s Aryn Baker Discusses Imran Khan’s Chances of Becoming Pakistan’s PM
Ali bhai 
kahan kahan se accurate Article le atay hai ap 
Re: TIME’s Aryn Baker Discusses Imran Khan’s Chances of Becoming Pakistan’s PM
^ I think none of them will get the top slot. NS and SS are changed you have to meet them to believe it.
Re: TIME’s Aryn Baker Discusses Imran Khan’s Chances of Becoming Pakistan’s PM
^ Raja Zafar ul haq is a nice man, I have studied with his son and he was the most down to the earth guy that I have seen (depicted the family upbringing). Similary I have worked with one of the relatives of JhagRa and he was a nice fellow as well. No doubt PMLN has some very good people, but with Sharif's controlling them I dont see them performing much.
The point is we don't just need down-to-earth simpletons and duffers jinhein kuch aata jata nahin hai. I would much rather vote for someone who is intelligent, honest capable and competent. Qaim Ali Shah is probably also very down to earth but is he a good CM?
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So brother choose lesser evil, shout: SS for PM.
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The point is we don't just need down-to-earth simpletons and duffers jinhein kuch aata jata nahin hai. I would rather vote for someone who is intelligent, honest capable and competent. Qaim Ali Shah is probably also very down to earth but is he a good CM?
Well every one has their competencies, I think he was good in the religious ministry...anyways I think the team of PMLN is not bad, its that the Sharifs dont trust them...the closest circle that they have include their family members (Maryam, Hamza, Safdar, Ishaq Dar, Abid Sher Ali etc),...they rule the party like a monarchy which is the real issue...
same problem is with ppp as well, as they also have some very good and competent people but the leadership is corrupt and inept, hence they dont perform.
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So brother choose lesser evil, shout: SS for PM.
Hopefully never...
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^ :(