Time for Americans to leave Afghanistan

This shows how much you know about Afghanistan its just amazing… There was tussel going on between Talibs and NA for last 5 years with both sides losing and gaining few towns every day.

For few million dollars I could have tipped the balance in favour of drug pushers… poppy production has shot up 1000 percent according to UN.. Relax, the white powder will be quite cheap on US streets this summer. :hehe: That is another one of your victory.

Don’t overlook small victories like this one.

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan: Mar 11 (PNS) - In a bid to boost education for women by women in Afghanistan, where perhaps 79 percent of the female population is illiterate, the UN International Children’s and Educational Fund (UNICEF) is joining forces with Afghanistan to produce the country’s first literacy textbook for women.

http://www.paknews.com/flash.php?id=5&date1=2003-03-11

I am sure this victory is of the same magnitude the Afghan women are celebrating especially when they can remove their burqa… Or how about Kandhar the gay capitol of the world now eyeing US pretty boys… Sure sure victories are many but they are in reverse.

Dude tactical bs my ass. In Afghanistan tactics didn’t work, bombs didn’t work, what worked was MONEY! Like it worked in Mazar-e-Shareef where 400 Talibans got butchered at the expensive of NA soldiers. Now the problem is for how long the US is willing to pay, because like they say in Afghanistan "you can never buy an Afghan, you can only rent him".

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I just love the way you guys who know little of history throw out comparisons that have no factual or logical connection to the events you comparing.

In neither Viet Nam nor Korea did the US have a military objective of removing a government from power and putting in a new regime in its place. In Viet Nam, the US objective was never to depose the government of the North. Similarly, the Korean War was not about conquering the North. In both cases, the wars had limited defensive objectives. When one compares the respective development of North and South Korea post-armistice, you'd have to be a real nutjob to argue that the North won and the Americans were defeated in accomplishing their objective. In Viet Nam, you'd have to be a nutjob to ultimately argue the US accomplished its objective. You win some and you lose some. And, hopefully, you learn from your mistakes. Hopefully, we will never commit our troops to a limited engagement war again and deprive them of the tools necessary to win.

The Afghan war itself was a remarkable display of tactical and technological superiority. The defeat of the armed enemy was swift and complete in the blink of an eye with a commitment of remarkably few US troops. Whether the US is ultimately successful in nation building there, no parralel with Viet Nam exists. Afghanistan is unique and stands on its own.

As to throwing Cuba in the mix, you history buffs would have to educate me on when the US fought a war with Cuba. I'd sure be interested in getting some casualty figures from that war, both civilian and military.
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First of all it's time to re-build Afghanistan. That's what their promises were.

Afghanistan is what it always was US or no US… Don’t count your chickens yet not for few centuries at least. But there has been one very good success for US.. The NA drug pushers have effectively increased poppy production to its highest level ever… :k: congrats US this one of your victory puts your victories in NK and Vietnam to shame.. LOL…

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/EC13Ag02.html

Dangerous line in the sand
By Ramtanu Maitra

The recent visit to the United States by the President of Afghanistan’s transitional government, Hamid Karzai, made clear how fragile the stability in Afghanistan is today. Karzai’s recent assurances to American lawmakers that Afghanistan’s polity is on the right track, and that all he needs is more money to speed up the reconstruction work, fell on deaf ears.

** Too much news has come out in recent months indicating that despite the best intentions of Karzai, things are as murky and unstable today in Afghanistan as they were in January 2002, when the Taliban fled Kabul in the face of the invading American and Northern Alliance troops. **

Just days before Karzai’s arrival in Washington, his Minister of Mines and Industries, Juma Muhammad Muhammadi, a former World Bank official and an American citizen, died in a plane crash over troubled Pakistan - the third senior member of Karzai’s cabinet to meet sudden and unnatural death. The first two were outright assassinations. Muhammadi died soon after his plane took off from the Pakistani port city of Karachi on a clear and a sunny day. In the absence of a detailed investigative report, the assumption is that he, like the other two ministers, was also assassinated.

Abdali thats horrifying yet I see no concern about that by the NY Times....wonder if the reporters are asleep.