Iss rawaaj ka eik khaas naam hota hai Urdu main, aur mujhe abhi yaad nahin a raha hai kai iss ko kia kahtay hain… jab qawwali waalon par paisa phenktay hain. Eik dafa mainay Islamabad main dekha tha, paanch sau rupaiy kai notes gaanay waalon par phenk rahain thain. Iss ko kia kahtay hain Urdu mai?
Just curious and would like to know. Thanks in advance.
is it something like "bheet" or "bhait"? i dont know how to spell it
they throw it in appreciation
I think its called "Vail".
Paanch so roopay ki vail??? Dil chahta hai apnay kissi dost ko qawal bana dooN aur phir jaa karr sirf vailein jama karooN. Only Madhanee comes to mind as apparently he can play tabla too. I think I should convince him to start "Madhanee Qawal New Yorkawi Aur Hamnawa".
Faisal, I know some top class Qawals that are classically trained and the Nazrana (Vail) that they collect, half of it is donated to the Shrines of Aoliaya-e-Ikram for charitable purposes. I am just a little a-hole compared to the great Qawals. Aap ki nawazish hey key aap nay hamayn es kabal samjha.
Madhanee, don;t be so hard on yourself. You are a big ahole from Faisal remembers.
Mats yaar, jab tumharay sath hotay hain tou hamari izat bhi muft maiN baRh jati hey.
yeah dammit, when the public gives the money to qawaals durig urs etc, they have less to give to us pir faqirs. Please ernd this practice so I can buy myself the new 5 series, TL needs to be replaced now.
Dua Goh
Pir Fraudia
I have never done that, but i do it when i am out and about with my buddies at silicon factories.
i dont kno.. but i always thought that was called ‘paisay waarna’ … 
.. but then i was never very good with vocab anyway 
Acha. Sab logon kai jawaabon ka bahaut bahaut shukriya.
Sadzzz, Mujhe khud theek sai maloom nahin :(
Faisal Bhai, Ji, paanch sau roopay ki vail thi. Eik sahib thain wahan jin ka naam hai Adam Malik, qawwalion kai shauqeen; Adam Malik kaafi mashhoor hain Islamabad main. Khair, programme shroo honay sai pehlay hi yeh jinaab nai apnay pockets sai kamazkam bees notes nikaalein, sab paanch sau kai. Qawwali shroo honay kai baad, woh phenk rahain thain. Kafi aur logon nai bhi phenka tha. Eik gori journalist bhi thi wahan; uss nai bhi kuch phenka... paanch sau tau nahin hoga, laykin kuch tau phenka tha uss nai. Poora programme kissi kai ghaR mai hua tha, unn kai backyard garden mai. Uss waqt tau main hairaan rah gai thi kai log itnay saaray paisay iss tarha dai rahain hain...laykin mujhe kia pata, shayed yeh bhi eik qism ka rawaaj hai Islamabad main ?
I suppose the performers definitely enjoy the vails but it bothers me a whole lot. It doesn't look very dignified the way people throw money in the air. I have been to a few private parties here where the hosts had invited someone or the other to sing. The kind of chichori harkaat these men do with their wives present right there are just foreign to me. But anyhow they way they throw the money in the air looks insulting. If you really want to give the singer a nazraana go and leave it beside them but no they have to make a show of it. I would like to ask one of the performers some day about how they feel when people throw money at them.
What does kissi ke sarr se paisa vaar ke phainkna signify? Is it like sadqa? Isn't sadqa given to the poor? Wonder how the singers feel getting that!
I don't know about you guys but I would love Mehfil-e-moseeqi parties held in Pakistan in areas of Punjab and NWFP. There was no mehndi wehndi back in the 80's. Usually, the dulha's friends and male family members would arrange for a tawaif to come and perform at home. It would be an exclusive invitation only party. Women would sit either in a corner or watch from behind curtained glass windows.
The tawaif or gaanay wali could be of two types. Either she would dress decently and sing like, for example, Naheed Akhtar or it would be a pair of really good looking girls in their early 20's who would dance to an older male or female singer. Either way, the singing party would receive some guaranteed amount. Friends and family would throw 'vale' in multiple ways as described by Femme above. They would either stand close to the dulha and throw rupee bills on him or shower one of the dancers or singers with money. It would all be collected by a couple of young lads who are working for the singers.
Giving money as vale was a show of love and affection for the dulha by his friends and family members. Ofcourse there was an odd chichora element.
FF Ji, please don’t call this centuries old custom as ‘insulting’. It is a part of our culture, and a very colorful part, I must say. The entertainers are professionals and they know that throwing money at them is a sign of appreciation of the art that they perform. A mediocre performer will not get good Vails. It is by no means an insult, but an appreciation and admiration of the performance.
Whenever there’s a celebration within my clan, I lead the artistic party and we perform. I can do wonders with a Eunuch (Khusra) when I sing and dance along. My favorite dance to do is with the sing:
Sipar Du-pehre Pipli day Talay
MaiN ChaRkayaN WangaN…… oh hi hi hi hi
Sipar Du-Pehre Pipli day Talay
And all the Vails that I collect, I give it to my Khusra sisters (or brothers).
I know madhanee it is an old custom and I;m sure the performers enjoy it too but it just feels and looks weird. Its like being thrown your paycheck or bonus at you. Patta nahi. Maybe it's just me that finds the practise odd.
FF ji, it is understandable that some people may find it odd. That’s why every culture has its own idiosyncrasies, and in the absence of such, we will all be the same, which will suck big time. On Mila CharaghaN in Lahore, small merchants save money all year to Vail Out one another at the performances. It is not about egos or showing off, it is to show who appreciates it more. I love this ‘odd’ stuff.
hmm…nadz yah i think in urdu as some ppl said its called paisay waarna or note nichaawar karna?
i think usually this is done to outside non family performers as appreciation for their talent and as a show of happiness/generosity by close relatives/friends of the couple getting married
sometimes ppl do it to family members too like if a girl is dancing really well to nazar utarofy her
i find it cute when the little kids try to sneak a few notes fromthe floor tryna act all discreet hoping no one would notice 