This World.....

no, its not.

Its loved by those who dont understand it and hated by those who understand it.

hmmmm

Yes, I’m still fine I guess. This world is real in what sense?

lol

I meant, food might satisfy your body but it won’t satisfy your soul. Infact, the more you eat the more you’d torture your soul.

:hmmm:

:k:

I like what you said.

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Think of this world like the movie..."matrix"....we are all sleeping in our pods...and aren't fully awake..the world we live in isn't real...its more of a dream world...and the day we all do awaken...May Allah (swt)..show us His mercy...because we will need it!!!!

The world after this world, that is real and ever-lasting.(Aalim-e-barzakh, if ur lucky enough to reach it and the life after judgement day)

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Can we switch from this world to the mystic world in between physical and spiritual world?

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Yes we can. Dervishes do that.Common people if blessed can do that too.The spirit can move around, its a concept in spirituality.

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What are dreams? Are dreams and visions a bridge between these two worlds?
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Dreams can give hints.They can have many meanings.
Dreams and visions are very different. normal people,if blessed, can see visions.
Visions can be about anything...from showing future to giving answers about present and past etc.

You cannot have control over dreams, but according to what u have typed, u r showing signs of spirituality.
u cant find peace in this world now, becoz firstly this world isnt a peaceful place, its an examination centre with time limit and also becoz, those who "see" ALLAH's colours will not get peace elsewhere.

and it doesnt seem crazy to me.

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^I don't know but I can't carry on living like this....I need to find a way to leave dunya without leaving it (you know what I mean).

Never in my life I read Qur'an for the sake of finding peace in it, but now the only thing that gives me peace is salah and Quran.

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Take a look around at all the time we wasted
Take a look around and know that you're just passing through
When you find the truth that lies inside the darkness
Will it ever come to be that you'll find the key
That will set you free, that will set you free, that will set you free
It's only time
Time to wonder
It's time to wonder
Ooh yeah, it's time to wonder
yeah right, wonder what?
Ooh yes, wonder why?
Because.................................Why A Key To The Lock And Not A Lock To Open The Key... Why Do Steps Have To Lead Somewhere.......... Why Should Anything Ever Have A Meaning......... Why Should A Hand Always Represent A Hand............ Why Does These Ants Appear In My Dreams........ Why Are Books Pages Volatile....... Why Dont We Wear Chappals As Nose Rings..... Why Things Don`t Appears As They Are Not......... Why Is Water Solid in Color....... Why Does Fluoreseent Voilet Tastes So Blue........ Why Are Nights So Utterly Productive.................... Why Are Voids So Empty............ Why Is Emptiness So Full Of Nothing........... Why Is Nothing Full Of Everything........... Why Is Absolute So Relative.......... Why Is EveryOne Trying To Be Someone............ Why Move And Why Be Still........... Why These Ants Still Appear In My Dreams.......This is My World Every Thing Is Possible And Every Thing Is Impossible :)

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^lol

Now I'm more confused than ever.

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yes, we're all plastic :D

wait, is that real?

All Are Running Behind This Riddle To Be Solved, One And Only Allah Knows The Answer :)

Get bait'h in some roohani silsila for guidance and grooming of ur spirit and to outshine its(your) abilities.

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^I don’t think I’m ready for giving bayah, it’s a huge responsibility.

Thanks for your posts though. :k:

It’s funny how we always seem,
To be so happy in a dream,
Yet when it’s time for us to wake,
We think our dreams a big mistake.
It’s funny how in proper life,
We seem so bent on war and strife,
If only we would try to live,
To be forgiving and to give.
Then to us our life would seem,
To be the same as in our dream,
And in the morn when we awake,
We’d never make the same mistake.

wow…responsibility…talk about misconceptions…sorry, didnt mean to be rude, just astonished at your statement.

Dont take Baith, there are other methods also.

Isn't that true that you have to take a wird and complete qazaye umri and also do some social khidma after the bayah?

I'd like to know what are the other methods?

As real as it can be.

Why would one believe it is unreal?

It is a playground. You play good you score. You play bad, you lose.

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not entirely on topic but this is interesting.. taken in a religious context.

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Different Roohani silsilas have different ways/traditions/methods. Apart from subcontinent silsilas, there are also roohani silsilas in Egypt,Turkey,Libya etc. In some silsilas there are wirds, in some there are qawwalis, in some there are chillas too etc. But all are different in some way or another.
The reason i told u about baith was because u need a spiritual guide who can groom u and also take u towards higher levels of spirituality.

If u examine closely, its ur heart which wants to come to ALLAH now and thats why you dont feel peace anywhere else. Heart is driven by ishq. Had it been your brain,you wouldnt have felt the same, because we already know sawab/benefit from namaz and recitation of Koran yet even then we are not motivated for it.but when its about heart, we offer namaz and recite Koran because we get inner peace through it and sawab thing becomes secondary for us then.

satan can conquer the mind of the person by thoughts, putting in thoughts of doubts, changing thoughts towards comfort , nafs etc, but it cannot capture the heart of a person.

Since, the situation ur facing is about grooming ur spirit in the right direction, you may not take baith in a spiritual silsila, but u may explore it for getting "faiz" from it. The head person of that silsila may act as ur mentor only for guiding ur spirit in the right direction with or without transferring his own capabilities inside you as u maynot be baith with him.

Guiding spirit is important, so that before a person becomes majzoob or diwana, he is controlled in a specific way, for ALLAH's words are very very strong and effective, sometimes even hearing Ya-ALLAH from someone will make hearts of some aashiq's of ALLAH beat faster and faster and they go in majzoob state.

Thanks ravage…I’ll read this today inshallah.

I think Quran and salah keep me sane so I don’t think I’ll become insane or majzoob by hearing Allah’s name. Also, I’m too worldly to become a majzoob and also I believe there’s no tariqa without shariah.

It’s just I can’t wait to get to the real world and that makes my heart anxious.

Heart is satisfied by ishq and burnt by it too, when ishq for ALLAh becomes stronger than anything, then ishq becomes ibadat itself. rest is upto u.