This regime must not be allowed to last a day longer

[e33or]

Re: This regime must not be allowed to last a day longer

It would work If you say MMA and PMLQ have meetings regarding seats. But It is very hard to believe that NS & PPP can rigg votes where the Government follows other interests. It doesnt make sense, since NS lost ISI support the very day he joined forces with PPP. Now tell, who is the real winner.

Yaar, i am telling you inside story, thats happen every time. Their are few federal secretaries (bureaucrats) who control the "nabz" of Pakistan. They know it where the press for get the desire results. Results are finalized with PPP & NS too. Welcome to harsh reality..

[Khehkeshan]

Re: This regime must not be allowed to last a day longer

Support for great Lord Bilawal Bhutto Zardari is the highest right now. He should be made supreme ruler of the land. No elections need, opinion polls are enough. Only than Pakistan will be saved.

Jeay Zardari-Bhutto merger!

[Ali_R]

Re: This regime must not be allowed to last a day longer

Yaar, i am telling you inside story, thats happen every time. Their are few federal secretaries (bureaucrats) who control the "nabz" of Pakistan. They know it where the press for get the desire results. Results are finalized with PPP & NS too. Welcome to harsh reality..

PPP and NS can win only fair. There is no reason not to believe that. Since military regimes are not happy with their collaboration. What you are stating is less inside since I have been at lahore 2 days ago and I know the game from inside out.

[Ali_R]

Re: This regime must not be allowed to last a day longer

Support for great Lord Bilawal Bhutto Zardari is the highest right now. He should be made supreme ruler of the land. No elections need, opinion polls are enough. Only than Pakistan will be saved.

Jeay Zardari-Bhutto merger!

You only fear that he will crush your MQM into pieces. Thats all what matters to you.

[Aalsi]

Re: This regime must not be allowed to last a day longer

Have 24 hours passed yet?

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@Aalsi

Have 24 hours passed yet?

LOL

[Ali_R]

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@Aalsi

Have 24 hours passed yet?

You hardly notice, when you have 12 hours load shedding a day.

[system]

Re: This regime must not be allowed to last a day longer

..if Pakistan is to survive.

..at all.

If free and fair elections are on the cards, PML Q will be on the way out... If PPP and PML N come in, it may spell the death of this regime.

[Decent_6Chora]

Re: This regime must not be allowed to last a day longer

@Sultan Toora

one which has a public mandate.

thief with public mandate

pick yours. Options are

• will based democrats
• mill based democrats
• life time chairman type democrats
• chaudhry type democrats
• KK type democrats

[Spock]

Re: This regime must not be allowed to last a day longer

Atleast they get elected on offices they are 'allowed' to hold unlike your Musharraf, a military dictator.

[Sa1eem]

Re: This regime must not be allowed to last a day longer

@Spock

Atleast they get elected on offices they are 'allowed' to hold unlike your Musharraf, a military dictator.

Yaar .. Musharraf also got elected. He got elected more ways than any of past 'jali' democrats.

For instance, Musharraf got elected in 2002 directly getting vote from people.
He got elected in assembly by elected MNAs belonging to all parties ... PPP (sharpao as well as PPP Patriots), PML and even religious parties (MMA).
Than in 2007 again he got elected by MNAs (who are directly elected members of people) ... He got vote of 57 percent of elected members in all 3 houses.

Now I know that you may start saying that all eletions were rigged. But if that is what you would like to argue in your support than I can also say that all thsoe democrats you believe to have public mandate, none really ever had public mandate but all got to assembly because of rigging (without any exception) and real person that ever won the election (got public mandate) was 'Kafil bahi' who was never allowed to get into assembly as regardless of whatever vote he got in election, he was declared looser and lost his deposit.

So, either accept the public mandate that Musharraf got ... or reject all public mandate any person ever got in Pakistan or will ever get in Pakistan (be the person from any political party).

[Spock]

Re: This regime must not be allowed to last a day longer

@Sa1eem

Yaar .. Musharraf also got elected. He got elected more ways than any of past 'jali' democrats.

For instance, Musharraf got elected in 2002 directly getting vote from people. He got elected in assembly by elected MNAs belonging to all parties ... PPP (sharpao as well as PPP Patriots), PML and even religious parties (MMA). Than in 2007 again he got elected by MNAs (who are directly elected members of people) ... He got vote of 57 percent of elected members in all 3 houses.

Now I know that you may start saying that all eletions were rigged. But if that is what you would like to argue in your support than I can also say that all thsoe democrats you believe to have public mandate, none really ever had public mandate but all got to assembly because of rigging (without any exception) and real person that ever won the election (got public mandate) was 'Kafil bahi' who was never allowed to get into assembly as regardless of whatever vote he got in election, he was declared looser and lost his deposit.

So, either accept the public mandate that Musharraf got ... or reject all public mandate any person ever got in Pakistan or will ever get in Pakistan (be the person from any political party).

Anyone who believes Musharraaf got elected on a public mandate is on crack. 2002 was a in illegit election. WTH should we accept a sham parliament voting for a general in a uniform as the president? Such things only happen in banana republics.

[Monk]

Re: This regime must not be allowed to last a day longer

..if Pakistan is to survive.

..at all.

Man of few words.

[Sa1eem]

Re: This regime must not be allowed to last a day longer

@Spock

Anyone who believes Musharraaf got elected on a public mandate is on crack. 2002 was a in illegit election. WTH should we accept a sham parliament voting for a general in a uniform as the president? Such things only happen in banana republics.

Well, same here. Anyone that does not believes that Musharraf was elected on public mandate is on crack. On the other hand ... the election of 2002 was as legal as all elections in Pakistan before 2002 and those who consider that election 2002 was not legal should consider that all elections before 2002 was also not legal, as there was no difference between any Pakistani elections.

If parliament that came into existance after 2002 was sham parliament than same was true of all past parliament, including sham parliament of 1997 and sham prime minister NS who rightly got kicked out of office.

[Spock]

Re: This regime must not be allowed to last a day longer

@Sa1eem

Well, same here. Anyone that does not believes that Musharraf was elected on public mandate is on crack.

The entire world, not to mention almost all of the population in the country is on crack then.

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On the other hand ... the election of 2002 was as legal as all elections in Pakistan before 2002 and those who consider that election 2002 was not legal should consider that all elections before 2002 was also not legal, as there was no difference between any Pakistani elections.

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Elections held under an illegit military dictator are only considered legit in banana republics. Btw, what do u think about that 'referundum'?

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If parliament that came into existance after 2002 was sham parliament than same was true of all past parliament, including sham parliament of 1997 and sham prime minister NS who rightly got kicked out of office.
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Lets see now, was the 1997 parliament formed under the umbrella of an illegit military dictator? NO

[Sa1eem]

Re: This regime must not be allowed to last a day longer

@Spock

The entire world, not to mention almost all of the population in the country is on crack then.

The way some Pakistanis argue, you are right :)

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Elections held under an illegit military dictator are only considered legit in banana republics. Btw, what do u think about that 'referundum'?
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You mean 1970 election?

So, if 1970 election was illegal(as it happened under military dictator) ... what do you think of 1973 constitution that was enacted by people who got elected under illegal election under military, right? ... so, if election under military is illegal and those that got elected illegal .. than those that gave 1973 constitution were not qualified to give the constitution anyhow ... and thus 1973 constitution itself is illegal ... right? :)

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Lets see now, was the 1997 parliament formed under the umbrella of an illegit military dictator? NO
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Well, election that happened in 1997 was under military umbrella? Yes.

BB was sacked by President (Laghari) who used the power to sack parliament given to him by past Military dictator (Zia) and Laghari used that power because of military behind him (under Jahangir Karamat). Later, whoever won 1997 election won because of massive rigging by establishment and none deserved their seat in NA.

Actually, those who got elected were contesting 1997 election illegally anyhow as most contestant were not qualified to contest election ... according to artile 62 and 63. Nawaz who became Prime minister due to election 1997 was sacked earlier on corruption charges and anyone that got sacked on corruption charges could not have taken part in election (article 63 .. no corrupt or alleged corrupt person can contest election), but he was allowed illegally to take part in 1997 election (so were most who got elected).

So ... yes. 1997 election and all who got elected were holding their assembly seat illegally and also due to massive rigging.

[Spock]

Re: This regime must not be allowed to last a day longer

@Sa1eem

The way some Pakistanis argue, you are right :)

You mean 1970 election?

So, if 1970 election was illegal(as it happened under military dictator) ... what do you think of 1973 constitution that was enacted by people who got elected under illegal election under military, right? ... so, if election under military is illegal and those that got elected illegal .. than those that gave 1973 constitution were not qualified to give the constitution anyhow ... and thus 1973 constitution itself is illegal ... right? :)

Instead of trying to prove something which is incorrect, you should just take a childrens 'join the dots' book and try connecting dots, I am sure you will be better than all the other kindergarten kids in that skill because you are trying to join the dots ouf of jibberish, and silly comparisons.. We all know Bhutto was not a military dictator like Musharraf is. If you are referring to Yahya, he LEFT after the elections, he didnt hold them to get himself elected like this drunkard Musharraf.

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Well, election that happened in 1997 was under military umbrella? Yes.

BB was sacked by President (Laghari) who used the power to sack parliament given to him by past Military dictator (Zia) and Laghari used that power because of military behind him (under Jahangir Karamat). Later, whoever won 1997 election won because of massive rigging by establishment and none deserved their seat in NA.

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I dont know whether to laugh at you or feel sorry for you. Btw, for your info, Karamat was a real man (unlike mushy ofcourse), adn believe the fauj isnt supposed to involve itself in politics.

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Actually, those who got elected were contesting 1997 election illegally anyhow as most contestant were not qualified to contest election ... according to artile 62 and 63. Nawaz who became Prime minister due to election 1997 was sacked earlier on corruption charges and anyone that got sacked on corruption charges could not have taken part in election (article 63 .. no corrupt or alleged corrupt person can contest election), but he was allowed illegally to take part in 1997 election (so were most who got elected).

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And what about your beloved Chaudhry brothers whom you hold in such high regards?

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So ... yes. 1997 election and all who got elected were holding their assembly seat illegally and also due to massive rigging.
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You said this 6 times, please use one sentence rather than posting paras and paras of literally the same thing.

[teggy]

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@Spock

Instead of trying to prove something which is incorrect, you should just take a childrens ‘join the dots’ book and try connecting dots, I am sure you will be better than all the other kindergarten kids in that skill because you are trying to join the dots ouf of jibberish, and silly comparisons.. We all know Bhutto was not a military dictator like Musharraf is. If you are referring to Yahya, he LEFT after the elections, he didnt hold them to get himself elected like this drunkard Musharraf.

U’ve done it again bro!

Some people will go to any lengths to justify false rule by a so-called chosen leader.

[Sa1eem]

Re: This regime must not be allowed to last a day longer

@Spock

Instead of trying to prove something which is incorrect, you should just take a childrens 'join the dots' book and try connecting dots, I am sure you will be better than all the other kindergarten kids in that skill because you are trying to join the dots ouf of jibberish, and silly comparisons.. We all know Bhutto was not a military dictator like Musharraf is. If you are referring to Yahya, he LEFT after the elections, he didnt hold them to get himself elected like this drunkard Musharraf.

Read what you wrote. You wrote that election under military dictator is illegal. Now think.

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I dont know whether to laugh at you or feel sorry for you. Btw, for your info, Karamat was a real man (unlike mushy ofcourse), adn believe the fauj isnt supposed to involve itself in politics.
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Well, cry :)

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And what about your beloved Chaudhry brothers whom you hold in such high regards?
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Certainly they are 100 of times better than Nawaz and his present goons ... or Zardari or his ex-wife and their present goons.

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You said this 6 times, please use one sentence rather than posting paras and paras of literally the same thing.
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Well, when one want to tell a kid who could not understand, one need to say multiple number of time :)

Anyhow ... I don't want to argue, I do not gain anything from it. You stay happy as I am happy ... I believe that there is nothing to argue as I think Pakistan is in good hands and I beleive that it would stay in that good hands for next 10 to 15 years :)

If anything bad happens (khuda-na-khuasta) than I will think of something :)

[Spock]

Re: This regime must not be allowed to last a day longer

@Sa1eem

Read what you wrote. You wrote that election under military dictator is illegal. Now think.

Well, cry :)

Certainly they are 100 of times better than Nawaz and his present goons ... or Zardari or his ex-wife and their present goons.

Well, when one want to tell a kid who could not understand, one need to say multiple number of time :)

Anyhow ... I don't want to argue, I do not gain anything from it. You stay happy as I am happy ... I believe that there is nothing to argue as I think Pakistan is in good hands and I beleive that it would stay in that good hands for next 10 to 15 years :)

If anything bad happens (khuda-na-khuasta) than I will think of something :)

Start thinking pretty soon because your beloved dictator is on his way out now, Pakistan is making headlines every day now, thanks to him!

Good hands my rear!