This made me cry...

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If the king didn’t want his son to marry a kaneez for fear of shame, why couldn’t he give her to the Prince as a londi? At least that way they would have been together.. :frowning:

PS. Is it true that her mausoleum is a bloody office? Bloody thick Pakis, she is the Princess of the Shohadaa-e-Eshq, this is a desecration of her place of rest!!! Something needs to be done.

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may be coz King wanted her to be own londi?

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If he loved her himself he wouldn't have had her buried alive...

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What the hell I can't watch it quickly on my dialup can someone tell me what's going on the in the movie? The girl's face looks painful and Paki's comments just add to the sorrowfulness.

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This is just a video but the original story goes that the Mogul Prince Saleem (later King Jahangir) and his fathers dancing girl Anarkali fell in love with each other and wanted to marry but the King was opposed to the idea of his son marrying a mere dancing girl of lowly birth, the custom of the Mughal Kings was to marry only Safavid Persian Princesses or Hindu Khatri Princesses...

Anarkali was tortured by the King and asked to renounce her love but she refused, eventually she chose to be plastered up alive in a wall rather than renounce her love for Prince Saleem, Subhan Allah..

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What crap is this?

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omg I used to listen to this song all the time... I love it!

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does anyone who sings dis song. i saw it on tv the other nite after a longggggg time..

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Were no Hindus in Pakistan. Never have been any significant amounts. It's Buddhists and Vedics. Were not the Mughals some foreign element anyway? All these criminals ransacking Pakistan over the centuries and spreading their sordid genes. Hrumphh.

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Dude!! Religion and race are seperate.. I admit ppl of Pak (and to some extent bordering NW-India) are racially distinct from the rest of South-Asia and that the forefather relgion of Hinduism: Vedicism is a Pakistani religion (and toegther with ou Sanskritic languages) was spread to Indians (pure Dravidians) by our glorious colonist forefathers... I guess that's why the few pure Brahmins that are look Paki..

Still that doesn't change the fact that ideas and beliefs flowed back and forth between the Indus Valley and the rest of India, and some Pakistanis did follow present forms of Hinduism for a while and then later Buddhism which is an ofshoot of Hinduism..

I agree the Mughals were foreigners but they became South-Asian and we were always a mixed race of people anyway, you'd agree that we were already an amalgam of Aryan, Dravidian and other races.. so a few more wont hurt.. I think the Mughal emperors were eunuchs but presentday Mughals are orite and they have pretty eyes, there's a whole village of Mughals in my area and they frequently intermarry with Pathans.

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Dude!! Religion and race are seperate.. I admit ppl of Pak (and to some extent bordering NW-India) are racially distinct from the rest of South-Asia and that the forefather relgion of Hinduism: Vedicism is a Pakistani religion (and toegther with ou Sanskritic languages) was spread to Indians (pure Dravidians) by our glorious colonist forefathers... I guess that's why the few pure Brahmins that are look Paki..

Still that doesn't change the fact that ideas and beliefs flowed back and forth between the Indus Valley and India, and some Pakistanis did follow present forms of Hinduism for a while and then later Buddhism which is an ofshoot of Hinduism..

I agree the Mughals were foreigners but they became South-Asian and we were always a mixed race of people anyway, you'd agree that we were already an amalgam of Aryan, Dravidian and other races.. so a few more wont hurt.. I think the Mughal emperors were eunuchs but presentday Mughals are orite and they have pretty eyes, there's a whole village of Mughals in my area and they frequently intermarry with Pathans.

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I don’t agree. You’re suggesting I think that Pakistan began accepting Hinduism at some point in its history. I don’t believe this to be close to being correct. I think you’re stuck in this Pan Indian mindset still. I think it’s proveable what you’re saying is incorrect going by timelines. By 200 BC, what we know is that there were many Buddhist conversions in Pakistan, and that the majority of the country was opposed to Hinduism, and followed Vedism most likely. This is all stated in the Mahabharatta.

Example
There where the five rivers flow just after issuing from the mountains, there among the Aratta-Vahikas, no respectable person should dwell even for two days

http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08044.htm

So by 200 BC Hinduism was not practised in any great amount in Pakistan. It arose from the Ganges, and the questions are did it cross back into Pakistan. The answer is most likely not because Pakistan did not get ruled from the Ganges ever (though some Hindu rulers did govern the place sometimes). For the majority of the time Ghaznavids, Ghoris, Timurids, Samanids ruled the place, so there’ just as much likelihood of religious influence from the West or the North to come into Pakistan as there is for it to come in from “india”. I think less so, since there was obviously hostility within the Hindu Holy books towards the area of Pakistan, and its people.

I dont think it matters who they intermarry. I’m against colonialism regardless. They spent too much money on palaces and stupid things anyway.

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I guess you're more knowledgable than I then, thanks for correcting me, I'll have a look at your links..

That's true but forget what's past..

I'm for Pan-Pakistaniyat, doesn't matter who is of Mughal origin, Pathan origin or Jatt origin, castes don't matter anymore... We're all just Pakistani today with Urdu as our national language (a Sanskritic language with Pakistani origins) and the collective history of our land as the heritage of every Pakistani (even those that migrated later and assimilated amongst the locals)...

Those of Mughal origin, their ancestiors married the local Pakistanis so they became a part of the land.. Same as us of Pukhtoon origin.. We share the same flesh and blood now but thankfully a lot of Mughals I know back home have retained their pretty noses and eyes which is good, I know I know I'm shallow...

Khair we're all Pakistani now and the collective history of our land is the heritage of every Pakistani, sod ethno-casteist differences, Pakistan Zindabad!.

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Idhar bhi discussing from where vedicism came and sanscrit came????.....inspite of getting thrashed regarding your every argument ??...haha go ahead with your crap!:D

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this caught my attention........:D ......you said if tippu sultan had been in present day pakistan then his achievements would have been pakistans......but here urdu developed in india(present day), but you conviniently claim it as pakistani....aha....nice double standards and good at twisting facts and you were blaming others of being history thiefs??:D

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Movie was really poignant and in fact is based on a true story.

This also shows that although women were granted a high place even in scriptures but has not been followed for centuries.

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How the hell did you thrash our arguments Dravidian boy??? You just reply to every post with stupid smilies (thinking it makes you look confident and will intimidate us) instead of intelligent rebuttals and arguments..

Sanskrit and the Prakrits all have their roots in Pakistan even though some of them might have evolved slightly in India… Not only that but we inherited them in our Vedic blood whilst you adopted them from our forefathers like the identityless copycats that you are.

We the mighty sons of the Great Indus will reclaim our heritage and history leaving you and your swarthy kind the identityless scum that you are. :jhanda:

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The past Mughals who ruled South-Asia were foreigners because they spoke a foreign language and identified as such...

When I call Mughals Pakistani I'm referring to their descendents.. Those of their descendents that live in Pakistan are Pakistani now, they don't speak Dari anymore but Urdu, Pukhtu or Panjabi.

Those of their descendents that live in India are Indian but I love Indian Muslims for the sake of Allaah, those that are anti-Pakistan are just misguided but they're brothers never the less allthough if they tried harming my country I'd break their faces like any honourable son of the Indus should... Actually I feel sorry for them, they're always licking Hindu arse because they have no choice, kutton ki tarhen dum hilaana unn ki majboori hai, even if some technical fault causes an accident like train passengers getting killed then it gets blamed on them and village after village of them get massacared and the world turns a blind eye... I feel sorry for them but I wont tolerate them speaking ill of my country to prove their loyalties to their Hindu masters..

I admire the Great Tipu Sultan.. My ethnicity (Pâkistâni) is not the only reason I love or hate..

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one more has joined......and makes you think that by giving half truths you became very confident about it??....haha.....what did you prove aryan boy???..nothing. you only proved that you are an invader from central asia and go back and claim your history there. you guys are an identiless scum who claim that they are owners of some other belief when they despise it and gave it up before some other invaders under sword. adios!

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And you sprout out of the ground in South-Asia so it belongs to you in it's entirety right?? Idiot..

Our Vedic ancestors made Pakistan their home and assimilated into the Mohenjodaro-Harrapan people who were an Aryo-Dravidic almalgam.. So we're descended from both the civlisations and claim them both as our own.

We may despise our past religion, we don't identify with it anymore because religion depends on faith and we don't belive in it, it's only a part of our history but giving up that religion is no reason to give up our ethnic identity, ethnicity and religion are seperate.. the pagan religion is a part of our history yet we wish to retain the secular ethnic identity even today... How hard is it to understand? Do you have comprehension problems? I've said it before, Greeks today are Orthodox Christian and many of them despise the Paganism of their past but it's still a part of their ethnicity's history and they still retain their secular identity (Greek ethnicity..) Just like Prophet Abraham or Prophet Muhammed (Peace & Blessings of God Be Upon Them) didn't give up their languages and ethnic identity when they broke the silly, deaf, dumb and mute stone idols their ancestors worshipped..

We weren't converted under the sword, Islam was flourishing in South-Asia way before any Muslim ruler/warrior even set foot in South-Asia, you are brainwashed by your smelly unwashed Pundits.. We embraced Islam because we were convinced of its truth and its superiority over any other religion not by force... Becoming Muslim didn't make us subservent to anyone except Allaah/Ishvar, Arabs and Desis are equal in Islam's eyes, we're not subservent to any human because it is not a casteist/racist religion even though we sometimes have to sin by being racist to put kameenay in their place.

Ps. I'm not "one more", I'm PP