Re: This is this SC and that was that SC
I have never denied the fact that he is a dictator who gave more freedom to the people of Pakistan. Who was more democratic than the actual champions of democracy.
I normally get into argument when
1- People portray CJ as the angel and Saviour ....when he is NOT.
2- Always have some "but" logic prepared to undermine something good that dictator have done. He is a dictator FINE, but he CAN do something good and if he has done something good, If you cant appreciate it, keep the mouth shut instead of beating the old drum "O how he is a big dictator and all this happening coz of 911"
3- As far as protesters in ISB are concerned, I was just giving the reason they were beaten up for and btw there always are 2 faces of the pic. If access is restricted to some area by the order of Police (dafa-144), YOU CAN NOT and SHOULD not FORCE your way into that place. You CAN protest peacefully outside that parameter ager phir police martee hai tu samajh aata hai k zulm ho raha hai but if you try to outsmart police with danday and stones, you are not going to get petals in return
- The Chief Justice is only a symbol... Dont repect the CJ, thats fine... But respect the institution that he has come to respect.. And whether you like it or not, MANY people have been inspired by the man. So atleast respect those who stand up for him...
If our intention is to have an independant judiciary, a counter to the overwhelming force of the Army, then we need people like CJ to stand up to dictators. I still consider him heroic, you dont have to, but atleast respect the fact that for many, he has become a symbol against the rule of dictators.
So the Judiciary is corrupt.. Big deal.. Point is to have a democratic instituion that functional and powerful... Dealing with a corrupt judiciary can be a long term goal that is achieved through democratic means, not some ill planned emergency by someone who really hasnt the authority to be giving one.
Besides, if we can put up with a rampant corruption of the Mush govt, then im sure we can put up with the corruption of the Supreme Court... Atleast the Supreme Court is a democratic institution...
Its not my logic that undermines the dictator, its his own actions.. The very nature of dictatorship is such that it breed discontent. For all the so called good he has done, he has washed it all away with his own actions. And what difference does the good he has done make if in another few years, more discontent develops? You cant crush the aspirations of people forever without them lashing back... How many lawyers can he arrest and how long can he confine them?
Why do you think there is so much division in Pakistan? Because a dictator does things by decree, not by consensus.
So NO, dictatorship has never worked and will never work... Mushu is only a temporary fix, after him, the same problems will surface, and he wont be around to fix them, then what?
Democracy is the long term solution to Pakistans problems... Dictatorship may work for a few years, but not for long... Democracy is vibrant, it produces new leader, it creates unity.. Dictators do the opposite. And I realize the current crop of leader are corrupt, but they wont live forever.. But Democracy as an institution will long out live these corrupt politicans.
Jut the fact that we should agree but dont speaks volumes.You yourself said that this is a dictator... And a dictator is by definition a bad thing.
Now the issue is that your willing to settle for this dictator... Dont expect other people to follow in line.
Dictators arent moved by speeches... Dictators dont care for the oppinion of the people...
But wasnt this country created based on the belief that the People of Pakistan would be free to choose their govt? In your heart of hearts do you honestly believe that Jinnah meant to have Musharaf in power?!?!
Its the right of the people, when faced with dictatorship to struggle to take back their country.. Pakistanan belings to her people, and the police have no right to stand in their way nor does this unelected dictator...
And lets not forget that no revolution has ever succeded by following the rules.. Particulalry those rules created by an uneclected dictator...
The students were beaten up, no surprise there, far more imprtant and influnential leaders have taken beatings to get their point across.. But lets support their effort thats all.. Because its their country, not Musharaf the dictators. Maybe if they hadnt tried to conferge at the CJ's home this wouldnt have happened... But then, he again, is the symbol against this dictatorship, so who is Musharaf to try and prevent these students and activists.