bro I guess u r forgetting, why you are allowed to have four wives, and wives are diff than female friends. They much more higher ground for respect. Stop acting like a dumb molvis and think with ur brain. Think why you want to have four wives and why it has been allowed, and how you have to keep em, if you can’t think about it, go recite Quran with translation, I am sure you’ll understand the meaning behind it. Don’t bring this issue in b/w male or female friendship, these are two diff issues, and can’t be dealt at once.
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now look cute, you failed to understand my point. What I mean to say is that you should ask " Is it ok if your wife have male friends" I dont have any objection on that. But when you say, if you think NO when why guys have female friends. So there you are comparing them. And Woman and Man are different but essential parts of our socieity. Well not just our society but of humanity, and they are not the same. Women have their own part to play and have their own rights and obligations and men have there own rights and obligations. So why do one have to apply the condition if Guys can do this and that, why cant girls or vice versa.
am talking with experience u know it sound really nice when u say i don mind my gf/fiance/wife having guy friends and vice a versa but once u r in the situation u mite not say it openly so ur partner doesnt mind but deep inside it will continuously bug u as to why is he/she talking to the other person? but this is not something unusual its just u get a sense of posessiveness and thats wat causes it i go thru the same thing dunno bout her? :s
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Stop acting like a dumb molvis and think with ur brain.
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My sweet sis. for the rest of all read my reply to Cutepie. As far as being a Molvi is concerned so if I started to talk in the light of Islam then women are nothing but toys for the amusement of men.
And if you want to discuss it in the light of HOlly Quran, and Sayings of The Prophet (PBUH). I will give you refferences that you wont like.
:D anyway, dont mind but I am a bit what you will call backward when it comes to such things. I can never accept that men and women are equal. Each have a separate roll to play.
i know my fiance would mind me having guy friends so its pretty much a no go.
besides, the same goes for him, mutual understanding :)
IMO this kind of relationship is more important than any friendship, they come, and some cases they go, but your going to be with this person much longer than your friends, and if you love them and want to make it work theres gonna have to be compromises :)
My fiance doesn't mind; and I don't mind that he has female friends.
We are each other's best friends. But I don't think there's anything wrong with keeping up other friendships.
Black Mamba: Having separate roles doesn't mean they are unequal. They just aren't the same. Equality implies status. They have equal status in the eyes of God, despite their differences.
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My sweet sis. for the rest of all read my reply to Cutepie. As far as being a Molvi is concerned so if I started to talk in the light of Islam then women are nothing but toys for the amusement of men.
And if you want to discuss it in the light of HOlly Quran, and Sayings of The Prophet (PBUH). I will give you refferences that you wont like.
:D anyway, dont mind but I am a bit what you will call backward when it comes to such things. I can never accept that men and women are equal. Each have a separate roll to play.
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grow up bro and welcome to 22nd centurey, I wish you all the luck in the world, cuz I am sure u will need it, if u don't clear up ur brain rite now. Men and Women are equal in everything, however u were rite when u said they have diff roles to play. As for the Islam give me the link to the site where they said that women are toys for men? I wont say much except that, both gender should respect each other's opinion and see each other equally, instead of dominating each other. :)
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:ee k:
:ho onh:
:ma d:
:no no4:
thats not true :- )
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Irem, I think if you have studied Islam you should know that the purpose for Creating Eve was cuz Adam was feeling lonely. So what would you call that?
Black Mamba: Having separate roles doesn't mean they are unequal. They just aren't the same. Equality implies status. They have equal status in the eyes of God, despite their differences.
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Sahar Ji.
Women can only be half Witness. Women can only inherit Half. And Even in the milk of mother. Its more dense when a boy is borned than when a girl is borned. And still you think that men and women are Equal?
Well you dont need to be sorry brother. For 90 percent of the so called liberal population of our world, I never make sense.
But brother I dont like hypocracy, what comes to my mind I dont edit it before saying just cuz somebody wont feel that I am a liberal person.
Anyway. Enjoy your drinks bro. :k:
Women can only be half Witness. Women can only inherit Half. And Even in the milk of mother. Its more dense when a boy is borned than when a girl is borned. And still you think that men and women are Equal?
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bro first of all Eve wasn't born to entertain Adam, she was born to be part of his life, to be his partner, so he could lead a happy life with her. If she hadn't been born I don't think u'd have had been alive either. A woman has been given a role of mother, sister, and wife and they all are very respected roles, r u saying that your mother is there to entertain u and so is ur sister and wife? don't they have any other particular reasons to be part of ur life. As for women inherting the 1/4 it happens cuz when she marries to a guy he comes with 3/4th and that whole things combines together become one 1. I don't want to brag about these things, nor wanna be part of it, cuz if my information sources are wrong, I'd only get sinned. Continue on with ur molvi talk, I rather be outta here, ciao.
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Irem, I think if you have studied Islam you should know that the purpose for Creating Eve was cuz Adam was feeling lonely. So what would you call that?
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bro jaani I can’t change anyone’s opinion, nor I am saying I am an scholar. And for me my own opinion and believes are right and I’ll follow on them.However, you believe in something which is totally diff then you should just follow ur own lead I don’t want to be part of this discussion anymore, it was suppose to be about friends and it has gone somewhere else. That is why I hate the religion forum cuz we have too many scholars, who thinks they are rite and other ppl are wrong. neho bro enjoy urself
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no bro, its ur opinion and you should never apologize for ur opinion and believes, yes there are times when a person correct him/herself. However, I respect your thinking, and don’t want to argue further on this point, proly u r rite, proly I am rite, but I am not a chance taker when it comes to Islam. I have limited knowledge. Anyways chill bro relax enjoy urself
I have been wanting to reply to this thread for a long time but just couldn't put my thoughts together well here I go. I come from a very reserve yet a very open minded family. what I mean to say is, My parents don't mind me wearing sleeveless ( a big issue/problem to some of you) jeans, skirts (long ones of course) in Pakistan (now some of you are thinking we do too but I m talking about wearing all this in Pakistan and going in public) I mean you name it and I m allowed. I have all the freedom one could imagine or want. But when it comes to having male friends its a big "no no" As long its school related well and good but when the conversation steps out of that I know I have to stop. And my parents are well aware of that. And if it wasnt for the trust I wouldnt be allowed to do all this. I have male friends calling and once one has even come to our house but it was all school related I made sure my brother knew about it and so did my family and no one said a word but if they find me maring guppey like I do here with guys oh boy I m in trouble and in a big one
khair my point here is even though my family is very open minded and cool but having male friends is still considered wrong to them and I completely understand and happy with it