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Zionist leaders would disagree with you.
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mercenary:
Since Palestine was ‘conquered’ by foreigners, hence the land belongs to Palestinians.
The Zionist Nazis had started occupying and started building their nests from late 19th century.
mercenary:
conquered?
Jewish ‘majority’ was artificial made by systematic immigrations, whose aim was to create a fascist occupation regime by hook or by crook.
Read about immigration of foreigners in Palestine on Aliyah - Wikipedia
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Kinky seems oblivious of the fact that Muslims and Arabs have been fighting the Nazis even when Nazis are supported by Big Daddy and his doggie in Britain.
Just look at Hamas, who refuse to give up their rights in return of money. Look at Hezbollah, who fought with passion that astonished Nazis and the world.
So dear Kinky, what eunuchs are you talking about? The only eunuchs in this conflict are those Nazi a$$-lickers who accept fascist terrorism against their own brothers; and other eunuchs may be the ones who feel kinky.
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Since jews had always been living in palestine since the times of the romans the land just doesnt belong to muslims
Anyone can edit and write in wikipedia. It is an illegitimate source of information.
There was never a jewish majority in palestine, but a minority and that minority created its own country much like muslim indians got pakistan or french canadians tried to create quebec…
but the problem is that country got attacked and as a result expanded to almost 3 or 4 times its allotted size and forcing the palestinian population to flee
basically if Pakistan gets attacked in 1947 by India, Pakistan fights back and takes over half of India and hindus flee or if Quebec gets attacked after its formed by English Canada and then proceeds to take over Ontario during the war…
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That’s the most absurd logic of all. Jews came to occupy this land during Romans time, but why would it make it their land for eternity?
After their first occupation of Palestine, Jews were thrown out very quickly from here. Later a few thousands did return here, but they always remained a minority. Palestine belongs to Arabs. It is they who have been living there for thousands of years, and it is they whom European occupiers expulged from their home.
But they will return to Palestine, and European fascists will return to their homelands.
Like you said, Jews are not a race. Hence a few thousand Jews living in Palestine does not make every Jewish follower an automatic citizen of Nazi regime.
Really? How about I quoting the Zionist immigration from their own sources?
http://www.jafi.org.il/education/100/concepts/aliyah3.html
There was no majority Jewish area in Palestine. They immigrated to Palestine with the aim of one day forming a country by forcing the inhabitants out of their homes.
Muslim Indians were not migrants. But Zionists were. Read history of Zionist immigration to Palestine.
Zionists are occupiers who threw out the Muslims from their homes. Their history is filled with massacres and terrorism against civilians. The latest example is Lebanon war.
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the jewish population in palestine was around 20,000 in 1885ish (muslims 600, 000+). after which the zionists started the robbery. im suprised you dont have this type of information.
your replies often seem to miss the quoted persons point of view or context and are often unrelated even when quoting.
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How exactly did they occupy the land in which the romans conquered them?
And Isnt the Kabaa and Saudi Arabia the land for arabs for all eternity?
I never said they were a majority
I thought u said that people can’t own land for all eternity?
That is not going to happen
But it does qualify them to create their own country based on areas where they were a majority
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congrats
There was no jewish majority in palestine. The majority occured after 1950 and after Israel was created and millions of jews from all over the world came and settled there
Again, the jews who created israel were middle eastern jews and not european jews. after Israel was created, jews from europe came and settled there
And Arab history is also filled with terrorism against civilians and the latest example is hezbollah firing rockets at israeli civilians
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your replies often seem to miss the quoted persons point of view or context and are often unrelated even when quoting.
when exactly did i say that jews were a majority in palestine?
they were always a minority and that minority created their own country called israel.
arabs attacked it, it fought back and expanded and causing palestinians to flee
there was no palestinian refugees when israel was created in 1948
the refugee problem occured in 1949 when arabs got defeated and the palestinians fled with the retreating arab army as had happened countless times in many wars
such as the eastern germans fleeing with the retreating german army when the soviet army approached
or the vietnamese people retreating with south vietnamese army as the North Vietnamese Army approached, etc.....
The problem between Israel and Palestinians is that of an Arab creation.
They waged a war of annhiliation against Israel in 1948 and lost and palestinians are paying the price.
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the jewish minority was made larger by the planned immigration of jews by zionist movement since the late 1800's for the purpose of the push for a jewish state. this is a plain evil plot. even with this it was still a minority.
the 1948 UN agreement was against the wishes of the palestinian and arab people.
basically they picked a spot out of the two for consideration, palestine or argentina, picked palestine and got it signed off. the state of israel is an illegal settlement in the eyes of most people. it wasnt accepted and it wont be accepted especially with its poor claims of legitimatecy.
calculate the number of people willing to fight for its destruction....
calculate number of people willing to risk their lives to fight for it....
tick tock pal, the era of zionist conspiracies is ticking away.
i'd suggest going back into your holy places of worship, have a bath, reflect, repent and when you feel cleaner go out to make real peace with the palestinians.
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the planned immigration of jews to palestine never exceeded the native jewish population living there and after the fall of the ottoman empire, the jews living there wanted their own country and got it.
this myth that every single jew came from europe is concoted by arabs and palestinians and muslims have bought into it
Egypt and Jordan have accepted it. And so has most of the Western World, India and China. The only remaining countries are Muslim countries who don't accept Israel for fear of antagonzing Arab countries by whom their economies run such as Pakistan who relies on middle eastern workers sending remittence back to Pakistan
and yet they all can be taken out by 1 Israeli Nuke
more likely the wet dream for the destruction of israel is ticking away, tick tock pal
Palestinians were innocent pawns in the Arab Game and they still are.
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firstly ive never heard that all jews came from europe.
your second point quoted is a very very wet dream
i’d guess to say 500million++++ muslims would engage in participating in the destruction of israel. and you’ll get nukes smacked back too. 
the longer you wait the more the danger,
the ticking is strictly on you
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*Muslims and Jews: a historical perspective that reveals surprises *
Once upon a time, a widely circulated Jewish document described Islam as "an act of God's Mercy".
Also, Jews in the near East, north Africa and Spain threw their support behind advancing Muslim Arab armies.
No, these aren't fairy tales or propaganda. The relationship between Muslims and Jews really was that cooperative and marked by peaceful coexistence.
Just ask Khalid Siddiqi of the Islamic Education and Information Center in San Jose, California where he also teaches Islamic Studies and Arabic at Chabot College and Ohlone College.
Siddiqi notes that the first quote above is from S. D. Goitein's book Jews and Arabs. The second is from Merlin Swartz's 'The Position of Jews in Arab lands following the rise of Islam' (reprinted from The Muslim World. Hartford Seminary Foundation LXI1970).
Swartz also says the Muslim Arab conquest marked the dawn of a new era. Those forces that had led to the progressive isolation and disruption of Jewish life were not only checked they were dramatically reversed.
In an interview with Sound Vision, Siddiqi gave numerous examples of Jews flourishing under Muslim rule in places like Spain, Morocco, North African in general and various parts of the Middle East.
Siddiqi points out that Islam as a religion has given specific guidelines for the followers of Islam to base their relationship with any non-Muslim. These include People of Scripture, like the Jews, people who belong to other religions, and even atheists. Non-Muslims must be treated on the basis of Birr (kindness) and Qist (justice), as referred to Surah 60 verse 8 of the Quran.
It started at the time of the Prophet Mohammad (peace and blessings be upon him)
The peaceful coexistence of Muslims and Jews began at the time of the Prophet.
Siddiqi notes that the Jews welcomed the Prophet when he arrived in Madinah at the time of Hijrah (migration), along with the rest of the city's inhabitants.
But the Prophet had begun the step towards good relations with Jewish and other communities in Madinah even before getting there.
After receiving an invitation to Madinah from one of the city's tribes that had accepted Islam, the Prophet signed treaties with the city's Jewish, Christian and polytheist tribes before he arrived there.
These treaties clearly laid out responsibilities of each of the parties. It was based on these that the Prophet established the Mithaq al Madinah, the constitution of Madinah.
Siddiqi says this was the first constitution of the world and one of the greatest political documents ever prepared by any human being. It is the oldest surviving constitution of any state.
Under this constitution, any Jew who followed the Muslims was entitled to their assistance and the same rights as anyone of them without any injustice or partisanship.
It said the Jews are an Ummah (community of believers) alongside the Muslims. The Jews have their religion and the Muslims theirs. As well, it noted that each will assist one another against any violation of this covenant.
Jews during the Muslim era
Despite this early breach of contract, there are still numerous examples from Muslim history of Muslim-Jewish cooperation and coexistence.
Siddiqi gave examples of how Muslim Spain, which was a "golden era" of creativity and advancement for Muslims was also one for Jews.
While Europe was in its Dark Ages and Jews were reviled there, Muslims in Spain during the same period worked side by side with Jews in developing literature, science and art.
Together, they translated classical Greek texts into Arabic. This task later helped Europe move out of the Dark Ages and into the Renaissance.
Jews flourished under Muslim rule in Egypt as well, where they achieved very high positions in government.
Siddiqi quotes some lines from an Arab poet of that time, to illustrate: 'Today the Jews have reached the summit of their hopes and have become aristocrats. Power and riches have they and from them councilors and princes are chosen'.
Today: the forced expulsion of Palestinians from their homeland has destroyed good Muslim-Jewish relations
So what happened?
Although not the only cause, a large part of the deterioration in Muslim-Jewish relations comes from the emergence of Zionism, the forced expulsion of Palestinians from their homeland by Zionist Jews and British colonizers, as well as their continuing oppression.
Siddiqi says, "while this reaction results in anti-Jewish feeling it must be seen in its proper historical context. It must be remembered that anti-Jewish sentiments in so far as it is to be found in the contemporary Arab world is strictly a modern phenomenon and one that runs counter to the time honored Islamic tradition of fraternity and tolerance.
"The very widespread popular notion that present day Arab-Jewish hostility is but another chapter in a long history of mutual animosity is totally false. If there is one thing the past makes clear it is precisely that Arabs and Jews can live together peacefully and in a mutually beneficial relationship. History also makes it very clear that they are the heirs to the Islamic tradition of openness and tolerance."
The key to reestablishing good relations between Muslims and Jews again is justice, notes Siddiqui. This principle is foreign to neither Islam nor Judaism.
In Islam, standing up for justice, he points out, must be done even if it is against ourselves, our parents, our kin, the rich or the poor. This is clearly mentioned in the Quran (4:135).
Siddiqi points out that the emphasis on justice is also mentioned in Jewish scripture in the prophecies of Michael in chapter three: "Zion shall be redeemed with justice and by those who will come to her with righteousness."
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500 million muslims united on something?
so far the islamic world is so divided that their hatred of israel is the only thing that keeps them together but the crushing israeli response to any such action will never allow a broad coalition of islamic countries to attack israel as they risk their own destruction if they do…
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^^ dude yer outta yer mind!