why we are constantly looking in the back view mirror (history),the fact is Israel is fully backed by US and they didn't got that over night they earned it and now its our duty to use our vote and voice (not arms) to also get that power.Inshallah this new generation is much more intelligent to do that.
theres little evidence to show anythings changed from your example earlier in thread. muslims just arnt motivated. israel is a threat to every muslim country inc pakistan. we seem to have a strange way of assesing threats.
and if muslims were strong palestine would be liberated
Maybe the fact that the entire arab world has taken up the cause of the palestinians so that they can show to their un-educated, conspiracy loving masses that they are defending arabs against the evil jews and then have transported this to the rest of the islamic world by opening schools, chartities, etc… so that other islamic nations tow the same line towards Israel and beleive the same myths about the palestinians as they do
and what question is that?
then you dont understand how pakistan was made?:halo:
Again Israel was never going to be as big as it is right now if it wasnt for the Arab attack on Israel in 1948.
Basically its like Pakistan just got created and India attacks Pakistan, Pakistan fights back and takes over half of India and hindus flee the advancing Pakistan Army
Who would you blame for the territorial loss for India? Pakistan or India
this is exactly the kind of thinking that muslims have been plagued with for the last 60 years...beleiving these nonsensical conspiracy theories started by jihal arab imams which due to oil revenue gave arabs a platform to send this kind of rhetoric to other islamic countries so that muslims in pakistan are more passionate about palestine, hate israel more, than they do about kashmir or india and while arabs enjoy strong ties with india, get arms and weaponry from Russia (who by the way has killed 250,000 chechens, 10% of their entire population) such as Iran and Hamas and yet claim what the Israelis have done is the greatest genocide in the history of the world
maybe the fact that the palestinians instead of negotiating with the Israelis have pledged to destroy Israel forces the Israeli public to elect leaders who don't want peace with the PLO but to defeat them.
With this kind of rhetoric, then why are you surprised that Israel, a country whose population is 70% liberal and 75% are willing to give up the West Bank and East Jerusalem for peace with Arabs elect people like Ariel Sharon and that is because when that kind of rhetoric, attacks on Israel force them to choose safety first over peace
if muslims were better equipped for warfare i wouldnt advise anydeal with israel. infact the way western and israellis asses threats the threat is still grave as things stand today.
liberating palestine means the whole of palestine without compromise
a strong alliance can achieve that goal. the upper hand in developing the next batch of weapons is still to be decided and is the key. winning one of these development battles would ensure gaza and west bank return safely and without bloodshed!
** War was thrust upon Israel, a war it did not want, and a land it did not want to occupy...**
These are propoganda clips of the worst kind basically showing the innocent palestinians being brutalized by the Israelis but not explaining or showing that it is due to Arab attacks on Israel and their failure to accept its existence as the key issue
Yeah, try and convince this to the terrorized Palestinians...
well i don't blame the palestinians for their current predicament
the war was started by arab countries such as egypt, jordan to show who is the leader of the arab world by defeating the jews and when they lost the palestinians paid the price
the war was started by arab countries such as egypt, jordan to show who is the leader of the arab world by defeating the jews and when they lost the palestinians paid the price
Why are you setting double standards? People will fight to defend, they have a right. On the other hand, nobody has a right to steal land.
israel was created on areas which had a jewish majority just as pakistan was created on areas which had a muslim majority or if Quebec is created on areas which had a French-Speaking majority....
but arabs attacked israel, israel fought back and took over more land the palestinians fled the advancing israeli army
just as when nazi germany invaded the soviet union, soviet union fights back and takes over large parts of german territory such as Prussia and the germans flee...
that is war, when you start a war of annhiliation you better be prepared for its consequences...
If the zionists had come to jews around the world and said "look,we want you to come to palestine,but you had better understand that there is another legitimate nation there the palestinians,who claim it as theirs and will fight you to death",many jews might have never come.
did I say that having nuclear weapons can prevent wars like Iraq?
I said Wars like World War II......
Wars like Iraq have occured all over with countries posessing nuclear weapons such as USA in Vietnam, USSR in Afghanistan, Israel in Lebanon, China in Vietnam, Russia in Chechenya.....
i myself dont hold respect for israels war arsenal. i think they can be comprehensively and utterly beat. with any number of tactics.
world war 2 is indeed history and will never be repeated! tommorrows wars are still there to be fought, won and lost.
any jews left after can explain to us how and why they got gassed twice in successive world wars so many years apart.