Thirteen Indian states meet as panic begins to spread over Maoist rebellion

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Indian PM says Maoist rebellion gravest threat

A war being waged by Maoist rebels represents the gravest threat to India’s internal security since independence, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said on Thursday. Calling for a dramatic escalation in the state’s efforts to counter the rebellion, Singh said the movement had evolved into a major force that threatened “our democracy, our way of life”. He told ministers from 13 states affected by Maoist violence that they needed to do a better job of intelligence gathering and coordinating security operations, as well as beefing up and modernising their police forces. At the same time, Singh lamented India’s failure to deliver social justice and development to its poorest regions, a neglect he said had alienated people and helped feed the rebellion.
“It would not be an exaggeration to say that the problem of Naxalism is the single biggest internal security challenge ever faced by our country,” Singh said. “There seems to be unanimity on the fact that we need to give the problem a very high priority.”

Singh said the Naxal movement, named after the town of Naxalbari where it emerged in 1967, had spread to 160 of the country’s 604 administrative districts and drew support from ”deprived and alienated sections of the population”. “They are trying to establish ’liberation zones’ in core areas where they are dispensing basic state functions of administration, policing and justice,” he said. “It is a cause for concern that civil administration and police are periodically absent in some of these areas.” Maoist cadres were now better trained, and the movement increasingly militarised, with “superior army style organisation”, he said. The Indian police, by contrast, is often poorly equipped, unmotivated and undermanned, with many tens of thousands of unfilled vacancies in affected states and little or no coordination between states. “Local police needs to be better trained and equipped to fight an enemy which is emerging into a major force,” he said.

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Yes, we all agreed above that this a threat.......... What' the point.....
Mods can somebody look at this "Silly" and ask him what's the point he is making.
Or he is cut and paste "Silly".......... :-)

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Bharatis have always had communistic/socialist tendencies. Read up on the ideologies of Bapu jee and you would know his economic vision. It's only now that the money/investment flowing from abroad has opened their eyes and made a few babus out of them. The rest of the population continues to lead a penurious life.

Oh well, forget it. Watch a bollywood movie instead. Everything is hunky-dory.

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No everything isn't hunky-dory. There is gap in wealth in poeple, gap in technology and there are attempts to sort them out. Naxals feed on breakdown of law and order.....
Thouhg despite multiple times saying, yes we have a problem here...
Why nobody is listening in this thread. or purpose is just to come and abuse Indians....

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10 policemen killed in Maoist attack in central India

At least 10 policemen were killed and six injured in two attacks by Maoists in India’s Central Chhattisgarh state on Sunday, police said. A group of 60 rebels opened fire at an outpost of Chhatisgarh Shashatra Bal (Chhatisgarh Armed Forces) located in Bijapur district, some 500 kilometres south of state capital Raipur. “The guerrillas, armed with sophisticated weapons launched a massive attack this morning. Six civilians recruited as special police officers and four Chattisgarh Armed Forces personnel were killed in the attack,” said Ram Rattan, a policeman at the Bijapur control room. Four policemen who were seriously injured were taken to nearby hospitals. “It was an attack that caught the policemen unawares. While a few scrambled for their weapons in an attempt to return the fire, most of them could just manage to save themselves,” a police officer said on condition of anonymity. The Maoists also set off a landmine blast in the Dubaiguda village in the same district which injured two Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) personnel. The Maoists, who are fighting to install Communist rule in the state, have carried out a number of attacks in the state since January. Over 100 tribals and security personnel have been killed in the violence.

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^ You know what Billy brother,
India is in deep trouble now. I had once created a thread about the separatist movements in India if you remember.
Maos are gonna break apart.

Chaar din ki chandni phir andheri raat ....

And they will keep beating the drum about "Yoga" "Bollywood" "IT technology" thats all...

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^ I think they'll go Khalistan way, Indian army will take control and crush, not something anyone would prefer but thats how I see it coming.

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^ Yeah
Thats the history of Indian democracy. To cruch its own people rising up for their rights

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The Maoist movement, has been around since 1967, hence it preceded the Khalistan movement and far outlived it. It now practically holds sway in 160 of India's 604 administrative districts i.e. almost a 1/4 of India, something no movement has ever before.

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Hmmm. Pakistan doesn't have a caste-system.

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ARMED REVOLT IN INDIA !

(as quoted from The Economist, April 15,
2006, page 45)

"For almost 40 years, increasingly large areas
of India's remote rural hinterland have been
disrupted by Maoist-inspired rebel armies,
known as Naxalites, who oppose conventional
government."

The article goes on to name and date the places
and time at which clashes took place and how
many people were killed.

"The number for the first three months of this
year is nearly 40% up on the same period last
year."

"The government admits that 76 of India's 602
districts are badly affected, though the Asian
Center for Human Rights says Naxalites have
influence in 165 districts,...."

Some Indians are not worrying, but it was
reported that Singh himself is concerned.

"The impact on the economy and on foreign
investment is likely to grow." The article said
that lots of companies have avoided certain
industries (eg. mining, lumber)

"The Naxalites are a complex group. They take
their name from Naxalbari, a West Bengal
[actually located in the eastern tip of India]
village where the movement was founded in 1967.
They were wiped out by tough police action, and
next surfaced in the 1980s as the People's War
Group (PWG) in an independence-minded area of
AP called Telugana. Conflict between the castes
in Bihar led to the creation of the Maoist
Communist Centre in the mid-1980s. This then
merged with the PWG and started to build loose
links with neighboring Nepal, where Maoist
rebels now control significant areas of the
country, and with less significant groups in
Bangladesh and Sri Lanka."

The article explains that the origin is from
tribal groups affraid of loosing their land to
development projects. The government is
attempting to initiate increased police
activities "But the Naxalities [spelled
differently than in the rest of the article]
keep growing stronger."

The map that accompanied the article showed
close to 1/3 of the eastern land of India, and
naming the areas, as under the control of the
Naxalities.

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wow, thats a big number. when they said "control", did they mean administrative, legal control? I mean, is police/judicial ineffective?

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Ajit Doval, a former head of India’s Intelligence Bureau, said the Maoists are spreading their “revolution”, making large parts “non-governable”. If the situation is allowed to continue, nearly half of India will become “Naxal-affected” by 2010, he warned.


Already, the government has acknowledged that the threat is impairing the economy, The Economist reported.

http://www.asianewsnet.net/news.php?aid=608

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Captain, the word is effected.......... not really out of control.
Now coming to NorthEast, its part of the country that was sort of handed over to India by British. That region was managed by Army (Yes Army) literally till few decades back. These are getting integrated more and more with India.
The problems most of these were always there with India due to its sheer size and complexities. If you go back in its small history of 55 or so years.
Now with opening of media in last around 15 to 20 years everything is in news hence looks so big and problematic. One of the most important indicator to figure out whether people are with state or not is voting figures (Kashmir voting went down to 13% in heydays of militancy - its back to 50%+ i.e. national average)..
If I start listing the challenges till date India faced and managed, current challenges will look like small.
Only serious challenge is Maoist, since they have an international network as well they may get support from Communists within the system and that will make life difficult.
Now that's been accepted, don't know what SILLY wants to say in this thread. ...:)

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Buddy, I really pity you :).

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Infiniti,.. Don’t… since some of these ilk are bringing lots of pain to this world…
They create own framework of discussion, and than cut out anything that doesn’t fit in that framework, and keep pushing single point without listening…
As in this thread its been accepted long back, yes Maoist is a problem and India needs to tackle it, the way it already solved Punjab, Sikkim and other revolts or challenges. Though here is complete refusal to accept that yes countries have issues. Its a thread to keep proving that India is bad and going to break down… :smiley:
Such educated make others uneducated feel that its happening and other uneducated take it for granted and shun democracy, and modern principles thinking that they are negative… :frowning:
So don’t pity any body, pity us… since some of these go and live like parasites in Europe and US, creating these impressions to own bretheren and indirectly forcing them to live in medival times… :naraz:

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**Asia’s Other Maoist Threat **

For two hot summer months, observant police in this tiny, remote town in the north of the country spotted a trickle of young boys from neighboring states disappearing into the surrounding forest. In almost every case, they reemerged a few months later, clutching a wad of banknotes, amounting to a fortune in local terms. These youngsters – police estimate at least 250 passed through the area last May and June – were the latest recruits to a Maoist rebel movement that Prime Minister Manmohan Singh recently branded the biggest threat to India’s internal security. “There can be no political compromise with terror,” he told an April 14 meeting convened to discuss the crisis, after a string of audacious attacks by the insurgents in several states. But the prime minister’s rhetoric is undercut by his government’s actions. Namely, Mr. Singh and his Congress Party have a track record of trying to cut covert deals with the Maoists. The sops allowed the rebels time to rearm and regroup, contributing to the recent upsurge in violence. The sheer numbers give cause to worry. According to the Delhi-based Institute of Conflict Studies, 247 people – including 83 insurgents – have died in Maoist-inspired violence in the first three months of this year. That includes a March 13 hijacking of a train in the northern state of Jharkhand and a March 24 jail break, when Maoists freed one of their top leaders from jail in the state of Orissa. That followed yet another audacious jail break last November, when 500 armed Maoists stormed a prison in the state of Bihar, freeing top rebel leaders and murdering political opponents incarcerated there. Left-wing extremism is nothing new in South Asia. The Indian state of West Bengal endured a Maoist insurgency from 1967 to 1972. Sri Lanka experienced similar insurrections in 1971 and 1988. In all these cases, the governments declared war and used counterinsurgency strategies that included arresting all rebel leaders and actively recruiting agents to turn in their former comrades. But in India, the threat has been approached with a softer touch – and is now bordering on a severe uprising. India’s Ministry of Home Affairs estimates that there are nearly 9,300 hard-core Maoist cadres, well-armed and trained in how to use explosives, active in 165 districts in 14 of the country’s states. To put this into perspective, that spans an area where 17% of India’s population lives. The Maoists, once romantically portrayed by their sympathizers as well-intentioned Robin Hoods, motivated by local poverty and oppressive landlords, are finally being recognized as a serious threat to the Indian state. With neighboring Nepal gripped by an insurgency that has seen Maoists rebels create “liberated zones” of parallel administrations covering last swathes of the mountainous kingdom, the fear is that their Indian counterparts are seeking to follow suit. That could, in the worst-case scenario, create a “red corridor” running from the Himalayas to the Indian Ocean. Hence the belated alarm bells in New Delhi. But Mr. Singh’s administration is paying a price for its own short-sightedness. When the Congress Party-led government came to power in May 2004, it tried to enlist the Maoists for political purposes, rather than tackle the insurgency head-on. The government cynically calculated that the Maoists held the balance of power in nearly 10% of parliamentary constituencies – not because they enjoy popular support, but because they are powerful enough to intimidate voters in those areas.

Naively, policy makers believed they could use the Maoists to undermine the opposition Bharatiya Janata Party, which controls five of the seven states in which the insurgents are strongest. The Home Minister in New Delhi repeatedly turned down requests from BJP-controlled states for firm military action against the rebels. For instance, a request from the BJP-controlled state of Chhatisgarh for airborne operations against the insurgents was rejected on the ground that the Maoists were “our boys” who deserved to be sweet-talked, rather than outgunned. In Andhra Pradesh, the Congress regional government even negotiated a 10-month cease-fire with the Maoists. Not surprisingly, the Maoists took advantage of these mixed signals and dithering in New Delhi to regroup and rearm. In September 2004, they united their various splinter groups under the umbrella body of the Communist Party of India (Maoist). In Andhra Pradesh alone, they raised an estimated 500-600 million rupees ($11-13 million) during the 10-month cease-fire, from June 2004 to April 2005. The local police estimated the Maoists also recruited 300-500 additional guerrillas during this period. Official complicity in allowing the rebels to regroup was graphically demonstrated in February 2005, when the regional government ordered Andhra Pradesh police to call off an anti-insurgency operation, allowing a top Maoist leader called Ramakrishna to escape. When the militants finished refinancing their cause, they simply declared the cease-fire over, blaming alleged police killings of their supporters. It’s good that the Singh administration finally seems to have woken up to the threat. The first priority should be to give India’s states the tools they have been long demanding to tackle the insurgency. That means funds to modernize their police forces, buy helicopters to send rapid deployment forces into otherwise inaccessible areas, and the resources to establish elaborate intelligence networks. Even more importantly, Mr. Singh needs to build on his recent remarks to a special meeting of chief ministers from all Indian states. In that meeting, he vowed to “wipe out” the Maoist threat, calling for more effective policing as part of an aggressive new strategy to tackle the violence. Encouragingly, some states have already taken a tough stance. In West Bengal, the state’s Communist-led government advocates using the same, warlike counter insurgency tactics that worked in the 1980s. (At a recent election rally, the Communist chief minister of West Bengal, Buddhadeva Bhattacharya, warned the Maoists that the state police would “finish them off.”) The BJP has shown it is not soft on terrorists either, with a controversial program of resettling villagers in guarded camps in the remote Bastar region, so depriving local Maoists of sustenance and support. Nepal’s experience demonstrates that any halfhearted and inept handling of the Maoist threat can prove counterproductive. In India, the stakes are even higher. Quietly but systematically, the Maoists are targeting India’s claim to be the latest global economic success story. Domestic industries, particularly the mining sector, are already being hard hit by the taxes the Maoists impose in the areas they control. Although only one foreign investor has been targeted so far – the destruction of a Coca Cola bottling plant in Andhra Pradesh in 2001 – the Maoist leadership has been ominously warning multinationals to stay away. “Give us five years,” one Maoist leader recently predicted, “We will make sure you spend sleepless nights.”

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The problem has been, and still remains, India's unwillingness to use force against its own citizens. It is unthinkable in India for the military to act against its own civilian population, something neighboring countries routinely do.
Unless India becomes more exertive, it will continue to be a soft target.

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Lets keep our focus where the problem is right now instead of inviting others to digress from the topic.

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The maoist inserruction is exactly what I am taking about. India needs to be more authoritative towards those it sees as being hostile to the state. Almost 60 years of Socialism has made India unwilling to act against anyone. Terrorists don't get prosecuted, and justice is delayed. These are the conditions that make India a soft target for all forms of terrorism.