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I think NS is taking cue from ameer-ul-*******](Google Search)***momineen Erdogan who is arresting journalists, professors, bloggers etc who had no connection with the ‘coup’.
BTW, does anyone have the text or source for the proposed cyber crime bill?****](Google Search)
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.... were the greatest manufacturers of lies against ZAB. He was elected PM of Pakistan there was no such restriction. ....
It would not be a misreading of Pakistan's last five years to say
that Zulfikar Ali Bhutto has given maximum attention to the consolida-
tion of his power. Although he has often spoken of the need to develop
popular political institutions, both the constitution which he gave the
country in 1973 and the PPP do far more to enhance his personal
role than to increase popular awareness and participation. The litany
of this struggle includes the arrest and/or intimidation of former con-
fidants and aides such as J.A. Rahim, Mahmood Ali Kasuri,
Mairaj Mohammad Khan, Mukhtar Rana, Hanif Ramay, Khurshid Hasan
Meer, and Mustafa Khar; the incarceration of all the principal oppo-
sition leaders and many thousands of others; and the assassination or
disappearance of numerous political and quasi-political figures. More-
over, an elaborate police bureaucracy has been created to protect
Bhutto and his closest advisors, as well as to strike out against the re-
gime's real or imagined enemies. The Federal Security Force (FSF),
which is said to have been modeled after the notorious SEVAK in Iran,
is the most feared of these police forces
A one-time supporter, Malik Ghulam Jilani, recently
summed up the situation in his country in the following manner:
Justice is no longer a matter of right, It is a matter of accident
notwithstanding the elaborate judicial farce.
All your rights are suspended, and there is no hope that the rulers
are likely ever to revive them.
All laws are meant only for the convenience of the rulers and to
mislead the world. Any law which a citizen can invoke in his
defense or for his protection is quickly changed.
The so called constitution finds itself amended and mutilated the
moment any court of law appears likely to grant relief to a citizen
under its provisions, and the courts accept amendments with
obvious satisfaction.
The press works as an elaborate device for
circulating the printed word. Expression is stifled and dissent is
frowned upon. The press dances to the music of its chains.
...his security forces arrested thousands of persons, in-
cluding the principal leaders of the Pakistan National Alliance. Martial
law was imposed in a number of cities, while curfews and shoot-to-kill
orders were announced in many more.....
Pakistan: The Vision and the Reality
Lawrence Ziring
Asian Affairs
Vol. 4, No. 6 (Jul. - Aug., 1977), pp. 385-407
=================
and there are volumes upon volumes of academic material not produced by JI about how purges and extra-judicial punishments were the favorite pass-time of our dear democratic chief martial law administrator and emergency overlord.
You cannot really shy away from history.
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It would not be a misreading of Pakistan's last five years to say that Zulfikar Ali Bhutto has given maximum attention to the consolida- tion of his power. Although he has often spoken of the need to develop popular political institutions, both the constitution which he gave the country in 1973 and the PPP do far more to enhance his personal role than to increase popular awareness and participation. The litany of this struggle includes the arrest and/or intimidation of former con- fidants and aides such as J.A. Rahim, Mahmood Ali Kasuri, Mairaj Mohammad Khan, Mukhtar Rana, Hanif Ramay, Khurshid Hasan Meer, and Mustafa Khar; the incarceration of all the principal oppo- sition leaders and many thousands of others; and the assassination or disappearance of numerous political and quasi-political figures. More- over, an elaborate police bureaucracy has been created to protect Bhutto and his closest advisors, as well as to strike out against the re- gime's real or imagined enemies. The Federal Security Force (FSF), which is said to have been modeled after the notorious SEVAK in Iran, is the most feared of these police forces
A one-time supporter, Malik Ghulam Jilani, recently summed up the situation in his country in the following manner:
Justice is no longer a matter of right, It is a matter of accident notwithstanding the elaborate judicial farce.
All your rights are suspended, and there is no hope that the rulers are likely ever to revive them.
All laws are meant only for the convenience of the rulers and to mislead the world. Any law which a citizen can invoke in his defense or for his protection is quickly changed.
The so called constitution finds itself amended and mutilated the moment any court of law appears likely to grant relief to a citizen under its provisions, and the courts accept amendments with obvious satisfaction.
The press works as an elaborate device for circulating the printed word. Expression is stifled and dissent is frowned upon. The press dances to the music of its chains.
...his security forces arrested thousands of persons, in- cluding the principal leaders of the Pakistan National Alliance. Martial law was imposed in a number of cities, while curfews and shoot-to-kill orders were announced in many more.....
Pakistan: The Vision and the Reality Lawrence Ziring Asian Affairs Vol. 4, No. 6 (Jul. - Aug., 1977), pp. 385-407
=================
and there are volumes upon volumes of academic material not produced by JI about how purges and extra-judicial punishments were the favorite pass-time of our dear democratic chief martial law administrator and emergency overlord.
You cannot really shy away from history.
No. That was the dictator's version of arresting ZAB after taking over the government. I want links what you are saying about arrest of people. As far I remember. Khar was no angel. If police arrested for his crimes what was wrong with it? Weren't courts free then? 100 pages of Mardood-Munafiqul Haq against ZAB did prove dick against him. He tried utmost to find out any corruption case against ZAB again found nothing. Ultimately he killed him in false murder case.
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Today we learn that Lawrence Ziring was a dictator.
Thank you.
BTW, the article was written before Zia took over. Lets head back to the topic I guess.
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From facebook: Posted by Rashid Minhas.
... And whatever he posted is not only true, but shows the truth of some baighairat Pakistanis who lick the backside of some so-called corrupt Awami Thug dictators just because they believe these corrupt Thugs may throw some crumbs to them, and go high in ecstasy on gas coming out of the backside of these corrupt Thugs just to please Awami thug dictators.
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[RIGHT]آج سے چند سال پہلے ایک شخص جس کو جمہورے ڈکٹیٹر کہتے ہیں پر ایک کانفرنس کے دوران کراچی کے ایک مولوی عدنان کاکا خیل نے سامنے بیٹھ کر اس ڈکٹیٹر کو بُرا بھلا کہنا شروع کر دیا اور جمہوریت پر بہت بڑا لیکچر دیا جب عدنان کاکا خیل خاموش ہوا تو اس وردی میں بیٹھے ڈکٹیٹر نے کہا یہ سب تمہیں وردی والے نے الاو کیا ہے اگر یہ سب تم کسی جمہوری حکمران کے سامنے کہتے تو تم سمجھ سکتے ہو کے تمہارا مستقبل کیا ہوتا آج جب سچ کے خلاف اور عام آدمی جو سوشل میڈیا پر اظہار خیال کرتا ہے اس پر جب جمہورے سایبر کرایم بل لاے ہیں تو اُس ڈکٹیٹر کی اس مولوی عدنان کاکا خیل کو کہی بات یاد آ گیئ وہ تو ایک کاکا خیل تھا جس کو اتنی سخت تنقید کو ایک ڈکٹیٹر نے ہنس کر ٹال دیا آج زرا کاکا خیل صاحب کلمہ حق کہنے کی جرات تو کر کے دکھایں ظالم حکمران کے سامنے اور جمہوریت کی ہی خوبی ہے جو پوری قوم کے گلے میں رسا ڈال کر ان کی زبان بندی اور ان بادشاہ سلامت کے خلاف زبان کھولنے پر کسی کا بھی مستقبل تاریک کر دیا جاے گا افسوس ہے اس معاشرے پر ڈکٹیٹر شپ کون سی ہے وہ جس میں سب لو بولنے کا حق ہے یا وہ جس نے غلطی سے یا غصے میں بھی کو ٹویٹ یا سٹیٹس دیا تو جیل... عقل والوں کے اشارہ ہی کافی ہوتا ہے.**[/RIGHT]
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کس جمہوریت کی بات کرتے ہیں حضور آپ
** اس ملک پر ایک عفریت ایک آسیب مسلط ہے اس آسیب نے اس ملک کی جمہوریت ، اقدار ، کلچر ، رسم رواج ، ادب ، ثقافت ، اخلاق ،رواداری ، کھیل تماشے ، مذہبی ، فرقہ وارانہ اور لسانی رواداری سب کو نگل لیا ہے - بچوں کے ہاتھ میں بندوق دے دی ہے اور دماغوں میں زہر بھر دیا ہے
انکا پھیلایا زہر اب پورے عالم اسلم میں پھیل گیا ہے**
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کس جمہوریت کی بات کرتے ہیں حضور آپ ** اس ملک پر ایک عفریت ایک آسیب مسلط ہے اس آسیب نے اس ملک کی جمہوریت ، اقدار ، کلچر ، رسم رواج ، ادب ، ثقافت ، اخلاق ،رواداری ، کھیل تماشے ، مذہبی ، فرقہ وارانہ اور لسانی رواداری سب کو نگل لیا ہے - بچوں کے ہاتھ میں بندوق دے دی ہے اور دماغوں میں زہر بھر دیا ہے انکا پھیلایا زہر اب پورے عالم اسلم میں پھیل گیا ہے**
Is may tou koyie shak nahi kay aap nay jo kuch likha hay, iss may bohut kuch Saach hay.
Lakin yea kaisay hua, agar ham demagh khol ker, aqal istamal kertay huya, her tasub aur zahnee gulami say bahar nikal kar sonchayen tou ... kayee loog 'may na manoo' kee ratt lagana shroo kar dayen gay ... iss liyea kay jiss per (wing) kay neechay woh sahara latay rahtay hain, woh per bhie iss 'kaisay hua' may shamil nazar ayean gay.
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yeh us din hooa , jab aik taraqi kay liay aik jahaz tabah karwaia
phir us din hooa jab aik extension kay liay Liaqat ko marwaia
phir us din hooa jab 65 ka election harnay kay bad Lalukhet par pathanon say hamla karaia
jab bangaion ko pata laga hay keh 65 ki jang main unki hafazat kay liay siraf 12000 fauj thi
jab capital Karachi say Pindi laya gia
Kis kis din ko roaoon
Siraf parson ki bat kar lo
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/pakistan-affairs/664565-mqms-waseem-akhtar-makes-confession-post10391989.html#post10391989
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ZAB’s government was toppled on 4th of July 1977. Even if it was written before his government was taken over by the dictator, proves my point that there was no such ridiculous restrictions on whatever lies or otherwise published in the news media mostly dominated by Jamat-e-Hami supporters of Mardood Munafiqul Haq then.
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Failed comprehension ki bhi koi hadd hoti hai. 
The article is not something from Ummat Akhbaar. It was published in a top tier peer review academic journal in USA.
Let keep this discussion for another thread?
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It suits you intellectuals like you. Otherwise full of crape and nonsense.
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Yesterday i went to barber shop got myself new manly haircut.... same like nawaz sharif...
you mean 'beech se ganja, side mai jhaalar' ?
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you mean 'beech se ganja, side mai jhaalar' ?
No you silly...
Beech main one Big Maang ( almost 4 inches)...
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Nothing to worry for you , It is only for people like me , who dare to talk about holy cows
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Looks like the hidden ‘Trump’ inside NS is coming out now..
ISLAMABAD:
Information minister Marriyum Aurangzeb has cautioned that anyone running a vilification campaign against the prime minister and his family on social media could face prosecution under the cybercrime law.Addressing a news conference along with PML-N leader Daniyal Aziz, the minister said Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) had mounted a social media campaign to influence the court verdict in the Panama Papers case.
Action against those involved in baseless propaganda should not be called political victimisation, she told reporters in Islamabad on Monday.