There's something Deep down which is wrong in Pakistan

Society Pakistan & World Affairs
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I cannot understand it, that Pakistani’s are always in the news for the wrong reasons.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/first-terror-conspirator-faces-life/2006/06/19/1150701484549.html

In Sydney, we recently had 4 brothers (Father is a Doctor!!) who are in Prison for systematically raping young girls.

We had a Medical student - having done Jihad training in Pakistan, and seemed surprised that he was arrested for that crime.

Deep down there is something wrong in Pakistan.

Is it the Religeous education (or indoctoration), is it the Education, is it the Pakistani culture? What is it.

If we can identify it, maybe a cure can be found.

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Rapes happen in every culture, I dont think anywhere is free of it. If it’s just a case of selective reporting, why are you acting so bonga? If you want to see a really bad case of rape in Australia look around - you’re not going to find it in that Smh paper :confused: .

*Further, it revealed that in 1999, 70 sexual assaults, out of a total of 120 in Bankstown, were charged to one man, from an Anglo-Australian background. *
*Each year in NSW 140 women are gang-raped. Rarely do any of these attacks receive public attention and seldom do they become the subject of a debate on tough sentencing. *

http://www.mediachannel.org/views/oped/australia.shtml

As for the Jihad training, what camps does Pakistan have for this? None so far as I know.

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Roadrunner - you may have inadvertently provided an answer. !!

You have 'trivialised' these behaviour anomalies - and as such have not faced up to a serious problem. Pehaps thats how all Pakistanis think and act.

I was not talking only in Australia - look at UK.

There is a problem-or do you not see it.

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there is no problem deep down in Pakistan itself. recent july 7th attacks in London were carried out by messed up minds born and brought in Britain not in Pakistan. all investigations now proved there was no link to Pakistan as it was thought before.

there is a problem, some Arabs and followers using asians and other youths to manuplate them, thats international issue for muslims.

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These are not behavioural anomalies Mr Bonga (not on a population group level). These sorts of people exist in every culture, all over the world, including the Bonga culture that you grew up in, wherever that is.

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Kiddie, if somebody trivializes these things, it's Indian media trivializing the bad bad things happening in their own country. Pakistan gets more than its fair share of 'rape flack' from the International media, too concerned about whether Pakistan is doing enough in its tribal region. It's mostly political and Pakistani journalists should be ashamed of being a part of this politicization of their women. Not denying that we have a problem or we need a fix. But I wonder why world media doesn't go berserk when police jawans rape women in Indian trains!!

... because Pakistan is supposedly an Islamic country with Alqaida presence, on the other hand India is a 'natural ally' and a big market regardless of its social problems.

If you have some spare time after you've seen the bikini-clad dancing white women in the new bollywood flick, you are advized to stroll into your own backyard and dig some statistics of women raped or probably burnt alive in India. Again statistics are not always the whole truth, but, at least we would have something solid to do some comparative studies on degenerate Pakistani culture.

Pakistan does have an image problem, and I accept it. India also has an 'image problem'(their image is too shiny), otherwise an average Indian is in no way better off than his Pakistani counterpart - neither socially, economically nor in terms of law and order. I admit that they have a functioning political system which is their biggest asset.

I'll say this again.. I don't deny the problem or that we need a solution. But we don't need advice from those who have their media cupboards full of skeletons. They only see oppressed women as political tools.. shame on them.

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Going by those examples, there's something deep down wrong with every country. Doctors nor their children are inherently angels. If you've heard of doctor harold shipman in the uk, it will make your blood creep. hence for all we know it might be the lack of religion that is the problem in the uk?

your example is more or less futile.

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Your post is so wrong, I don't even know where to begin.

First of all, good news is not news! The news media always reports bad news, aways. It doesn't matter if it's got to do with Pakistanis, Indians, Australians, or Mexicans. Journalism is based on covering whatever deviates from the norm, and usually that's when something bad happens. Excessive good news is called propaganda. (I don't want to say that there is something bad with covering bad news, it's just the way it is).

Secondly, you're making a stupid connection. just because the news media gives more attention to crimes involving Pakistanis (especially in the West) doesn't mean all Pakistanis are horrible people or that there is something wrong with either them or their country. It's a stupid mistake, really. Intelligent people realize that the two aren't connected. But, of course, most people do go ahead and blindly make a connection. But, still, this does not represent an actual problem, only a preceived "image" problem.

So I think I've "indentified" the problem for you: the media and it's willingness to cover anything that people will watch, which in turn means increased revenues. Scaring people ****less is a good way to do this. I don't think there a cure for it, really, besides getting people to realize that the problem lies not with Pakistanis or with Pakistan as a country but with the world of the news media.

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If it happens in pakistan and it's bad, it's okay because it happens in other countries too.

how sad. . .

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I don't think that's the right way to look at this. Nothing excuses such behavior, but certain things give the proper context in which we can understand them. There's a big difference between the two. If we don't understand, we can't solve. No one is trying to justify bad things.

Btw, it's not about countries!!! The fact is, it's not a country-specific problem. It's a human nature problem.

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Some Indians will never understand this. However, one thing that isn’t a country-specific problem is this one.

**Men rent out wives in India **
19/06/2006 12:48

  • (SA) New Delhi - Some husbands in western India are renting out their wives to other men, cashing in on a shortage of single women available for marriage, say reports.

The reports said Atta Prajapati, a farm worker who lived in Gujarat state, leased out his wife, Laxmi, to a wealthy landowner for $175 138 a month, citing unidentified police officials.

According to reports, Laxmi was expected to live with the man, look after him and his house, and have sex with him.

Officials unwilling to comment

The reports said that this was not an isolated incident in the western state, and that several men rented their wives to other men on a month-by-month basis.

Gujarat officials were unwilling to comment on the report. The male-female ratio was becoming increasing skewed across India because many parents aborted female foetuses, preferring sons to daughters.

Female children must be married off, and to achieve that a daughter’s parents usually had to pay the groom’s family a dowry of cash and gifts - often a massive burden on the parents’ resources.

Wealthy families hire housekeeping staff

Dowries were outlawed in 1961, but the practice was still common and the law ill-enforced. According to the 2001 national census, the nationwide number of girls per 1 000 boys declined from 945 in 1991 to 927 in 2001.

But in wealthy Gujarat state, the census showed 828 females for every 1 000 males, although officials said the number could be as low as 700 girls per 1 000 boys in parts of the state.

It was not unusual for wealthy families to hire housekeeping staff in India, but prostitution was illegal.

The lack of marriageable girls in Gujurat had also led to booming business for bride brokers, who were paid to find a woman for a man to marry.

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,2-10-1462_1953882,00.html

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What is Jihad training? :naraz: