Theory of Evolution: A Question

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I would SO very much like to write something silly

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L_d; knock yourself out. SOme hacks have been making the case for evolution by citing indigenous people diving off the coast of the Great barrier reef. So, anything goes.:)

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:konfused: you are being civil to Phatima, how come?

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And some people are making a case for intelligent design and something called God because they read in a book told to a guy by an angel… ooooook :whistling:

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Namaste & Salaam!

On the contrary, you sensed part of the universal truth! The fish, turtle, ape progression is exactly the first 3 avtaars of Vishnu. Instead of the APE, scriptures refer to Narsing - part human, part animal…apes do have some human qualities.

I think there’s a “boar” avtaar between the turtle and Narsing thus keeping the progression from water based to amphibian to land based transition smooth

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actually i saw a documentary on it once…about the transition of water based animals to amphibians… but hardly remember the details…

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Please dont ask us to do your homework.

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^ Why did you even bother to post.

PD - I'm sure if you used the right wording, you could make just about anything sound strange. This isn't a thread about who's belief is right, I just wanted to know more about the theory of evolution.

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When non-biologists talk about biological evolution they often confuse two different aspects of the definition. On the one hand there is the question of whether or not modern organisms have evolved from older ancestral organisms or whether modern species are continuing to change over time. On the other hand there are questions about the mechanism of the observed changes... how did evolution occur? Biologists consider the existence of biological evolution to be a fact. It can be demonstrated today and the historical evidence for its occurrence in the past is overwhelming. However, biologists readily admit that they are less certain of the exact mechanism of evolution; there are several theories of the mechanism of evolution

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Religious conservatives -- both Jewish and Christian -- generally believe that the Bible is inerrant, and that God directly inspired its authors. Thus, they believe that the creation story in Genesis is absolutely true: God formed the world, its life forms, and the rest of the universe in one continual act of creation. Conservatives have developed conflicting theories concerning the number of years in the past that creation happened; they range from 3615 BCE to the interval measured by scientists: 4.5 billion years. They also differ in their estimate of the time interval taken for the creation sequence to be finished; these range from six 24-hour days to billions of years. In those verses where Genesis conflicts with the theory of evolution, religious conservatives assume that the scientists must be wrong. Given sufficient time, they expect the scientists to see the light and discover the truth.....

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I was talking to a friend that's Catholic and I asked her about what they think of it all. She said that Genesis in the Old Testament describes God spending 7 days to create the Earth and all, but that's just all Scripture, and is put in simpler form so it's easier to grasp. So, in actuality, Catholics don't LITERALLY believe that it took God 7 days to create the universe.

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phatima! look at it this way… The ancestor of human race had a specific gene pool. Now this gene pool (alleles, dominant and recessive genes etc. ) wasn’t exactly the same that we have now. It’s because the genotype of the offspring is only half the genotype of its parent. Now, when we talk about evolution, we talk about a period of billions of years. It’s very likely that Adam and Eve had all the genes/alleles that are found in human beings today. But we do not have all those various alleles. Our ancestor’s genetic make-up had alleles of all races, i.e. black, white, mongol, dravidians, semitic. But their offsprings through intramarriage (and possibly through a degree of mutation) ended up with only one part of the original gene pool. They became white, black, yellow etc.
Let’s take the example of subcontinent. You might have read the heated discussions about their origin here. According to my knowledge, the original people of India were Dravidians. You can still see these people in South India and Sri Lanka. India was invaded many times. These conquerors brought their own people here. Many of them married local people. The result of all this intermarriage(note here, this intermarriage now) is Indo-aryan ‘race’ that we see in North India and Pakistan. Somehow we’re neither black nor white. But you can trace the changes in our gene pool.
There are numerous examples of tribes in India and Pakistan with a culture of intramarriage. After a few hunderd years these people become very distinct from other tribes even in their facial features especially if the group is relatively small.
And there isn’t really a pure race today. They are all mixed. There’s no jewish race. They were semitic like Arabs but after living among europeon races they acquired many of their genes through intermarriage.
The long and short of it is that the gene pool of our ancestors gave rise to distinct lineage lines with a set of alleles that was a subset of the original gene pool. It made them nordic, black, yellow, drvidian etc. Some of these distinct races with distinct subsets of original genotype intermarried and gave rise to races like Indo-aryans, spainish, moroccons etc.
But I must mention that this is a plausible theory. There’s nothing definitive. But it is very likely that humans have evolved this way. I haven’t read the concept of more than one ‘root ancestors’ anywhere. If humans are able to survive on this planet for a few billion years more, they are going to look different from us because of mutations and random natural selection.
In the end…who cares? We’re all human beans.

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Hey I said I DON'T believe in evolution. I made note of that in the first post. Thankyou for your explanation. We are all human beans, indeed.

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I don’t exactly believe it either. That’s why I only talked about human ancestors. Nevertheless it was only a theory to explain the emergence of different races. It may or may not be true. :slight_smile:

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darwin was full of sh*t..he theorised,but he never proved a thing. matter can never create consciousness,and nowhere is it seen 2 be done. We are all eternal sparks of consciousness who transmigrate thru the species until we give up our delusion that we are God.has anyone ever seen a lump of earth suddenly ask who am i ? all darwin has done is infect the human race with the idea that life is meaningless,so we should just enjoy our senses before we die...and this mania is destroying us..there IS a God...call Him Krsna..Allah,Jehovah..but He is above our senses,minds,intellects..etc and He reveals Himself 2 who he likes to. Evolution IS true..BUT it's Subjective Evolution....the apes are still here...haven't the so-called scientists noticed..?
AUM Shanti

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dont insult monkeys bysaying we came from monkeys monkeys dont do genocide
it is content with bananas.

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who insulted monkeys..?..is saying that apes are still here an insult..?duh?

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The evolution theory scientifically answers most questions of how humans evolved from single cell creatures.

Dark skinned people generally come from hot areas & white skinned from the cold areas. More Pigment protects against the sun.

But if religion is your thing, stick to your beliefs. (after all the Christians too believe in Adam & Eve)

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^ Well thankyou I really appreciate your tolerance. You're one of the very few I know here that didn't say a witty joke about having a religion they believe in.

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Firstly I am no expert of evolution so pardon the inaccuracies-

First there was Mr Ape. He along with his family went to see the world and settled in Asia. Many other apes followed. As their living conditions altered, they evolved into something different (human-like). Most of these tribes were killed off- there are many skeletons found all over that support this- eg one found in India is called Ramapitakus. These migrations took place over millions of years. One of this group was called neandrethal and settled in Europe during an ice age. They were hunters and were not very smart (not required to be smart as plenty of food around). Then there was global warming and it became so hot in Africa/asia? that most life was killed. during these extreme conditions, the ancestor of modern day man was evolved who was smart and resourceful (extreme conditions required smartness for survival). This homosapien and the heat killed the neandrethal man. Slowly the homosapiens populated the world. There are 3 distinctive type of races- the caucasians (europeans and central asians), negroes (blacks and aborigines- though some say aborigines are not related to blacks) and oriental (chinks and red indians). Not sure how they came about but maybe different origins ? The ones who stayed put are still monkeys.

That is how the theory goes- make up your own minds.