The word Sunni and Shia

Zakk · March 26, 2004, 10:33pm

Simple question: What do the terms Shia and sunni mean?

Faisal · March 26, 2004, 10:41pm

I think they are the short form of

Ahl-e-Sunnah-Wal-Jamaa'

and

Shiaan-e-Haidar-e-Karaar

ps. The emphasis is on "I think" :)

Zakk · March 27, 2004, 5:39pm

Hmm thanks Faisal ..can anyone provide an explanation and translation?

Sheraz_CT · March 27, 2004, 5:51pm

zakk
shia means follower..so faisal is right..we are the Shiaan-e-Haidar-e-Karaar Imam Ali :as:

sunni comes from a word sunnat…sunnat is what Prophet (pbuh&up) did…Imam Ali :as: did everything Prophet (pbuh&up) did so we believe we are the true sunnis

bao_bihari · March 27, 2004, 5:52pm

The word sunni in my opinion is derived from ahle sunnah waljammah as told by fasial

|However ..the word shia is basicaly an arabic word meaning friends…
Those ppl who supported hadrat ALi in the wars b/w sahbah were initially called shiyaan e ali ..the word later on used for this particualr sect …

walah o aallam

EDIT: ahlesunnah waljammah ..basically is a term derived from a hadith that those who will follow my sunnah and stick to jamaah will succeed …
so calling these ahlesunnah waljammah …ofcourse this is as according to sunni belive …

Zakk · March 27, 2004, 5:57pm

shukria guys. Someone said to be the word Shia meant the equivalent of political party or faction so I was a little confused

Ibn_Sadique · March 27, 2004, 8:13pm

Just for the record my input:

Shiatul Ali : ("party of Ali") that supported the power of Hazrat Ali (ra) during the first civil war among the Muslims. It did start as a political movement laying claim that the Khilaafat rightfully belonged to Hazrat Ali (ra) and his descendants. Later developed into a sect within Islam.

Shortened to Shia – Partisan

*Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jama’a * - “The people of the traditional way (of the Prophet) and of the congregation”.

Meaning: The people who follow the Prophetic Sunnah and adhere to the largest mass of the Muslims beginning with the congregation of the Companions of the Prophet (saw).

Shortened to Sunni – Follower of the Way.

little_human · March 28, 2004, 5:19am

Shias = followers of Ali (a.s.)

hafsa_dudette · March 28, 2004, 3:31pm

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*Originally posted by Zakk: *
Hmm thanks Faisal ..can anyone provide an explanation and translation?
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Ahl-e-Sunnah wa Aj'Jam'a is people of the sunnah and (the scholarly) consensus. I'm not sure about the other one

honest_guy · March 30, 2004, 7:43pm

ithink you r right Sheraz CT bhai

Ibn_Sadique · March 31, 2004, 12:50pm

^^ If Shias are true Sunnis than Sunnis must be the *true Shias * of the Prophet (saw). :D

inuit · March 31, 2004, 4:32pm

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bao bihari wrote:
However ..the word shia is basicaly an arabic word meaning friends......
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How strange this dictionary is ? which gives you a standard meaning

Shia -->Friends
Wali -->Friend
Maula -->Friend
Sahabi -->Friend

[quote]
Ibn Sadique wrote:
If Shias are true Sunnis than Sunnis must be the true Shias of the Prophet (saw).
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In computer programming language we call it Recursion; a function calling itself. It gives errors if it is not defined well in the program.

Janwar · April 2, 2004, 8:32am

SHIA === Follower Of Hazrat Ali(a.s) who Open eyes in Khanay Kaba and bought up in a hand Of RASOOL(P.B.U.H) n War for ALLAH .

SUNNI ==== dOnt know much sorry about it … but someone told me this plz dont take this wronge but heard so i just wanna share with u guz ( Soun kar Islam lanay walay ) Sunni … tht wut i heared … they belive of those who changed da history n Islam . no offence plz . im not here to fight or hurting someone .

Bye

bao_bihari · April 2, 2004, 6:10pm

how cute janwar…