the word "fakhr" and it's pronunciation

it would sound so much like the swear word and everytime i hear it in this song(yes my first bollywood movie after the longest time) the urdu pronunciation doesn’t seem right.

so is the singer saying it right in this song? at 2:27

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i did NOT hear the word...i think u are refering to an Urdu work **"faKhr" *with a 'Kh' sound coming from the back of your throat...it's difficult to pronounce for a non urdu speaker...it mean 'proud of'...*

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^^can you please listen to the song or skip right to the part(2:27) where the singer says it and let me know if that's how you're supposed to say the word in urdu............thanks

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YEAH, you are right...this singer **absolutely mispronounced the word***...most people these days do NOT differentiate between 'kh' [as in kheera (cuke])] and 'Kh' [as in Kharbooza (melon], 'g' [gadha (donkey)] and 'Gh' [as in Ghazab]or 'q' [qaanoon (law)] and 'k' [kaam (work)]...it's sad!*

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i actually wish an urdu speaker had sung the song, it ruins the beauty of the language when the words aren’t said right. anyways, :k:

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NOT really! one has to LEARN how to say those words correctly…look at Bollywood singers…Urdu is NOT their FIRST language but “MOST” of them pronounce words correctly while they are singing…in their normal conversation, they may NOT pay attention and pronounce the same words incorrectly which they pronounce correctly while singing.

Sonu Nigam, Udit Narayan, Kumar Sanu, Alka Yaqnik, late Jagjeet Sinbgh are all good examples.

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Lata Mageshkar is the best when it comes to pronounce pure Urdu words. In some interview, she told that at an early stage of her career, she was taunted for her weak Urdu diction, as she belonged to Maharashtra. She took that as a challenge and proved her by singing songs with difficult Urdu words. Her Album with Jagjit Singh 'Sajda' is the best example.

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**EXACTLY!

Asha Bhosle was bad in the beginning when in one of the songs she pronounced *"makhmaki مکھملی]" *instead of *"maKhmali مخملی]"...then she got a tutor and worked hard on her talaffuz...she is perfect now!...among the new breed, alka yaqnik is good.*

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When its comes to proper lehja, Rekha did a wonderful job in 'Umrao Jaan' compared to latest remake of the movie, where Aishwarya couldn't pronounce many words properly.

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YES...i do agree with you...vaise, mujhe to bahot buraa lagtaa hai jo log Ghalat talaffuz rakhte haiN aur use badalne aur saHeeH karne kii koii koshish bhii nahiiN karte. maiN ne ek thread kholi thii [taHaffuz-e-talaffuz] aur us meN is mauzoo par tabaadila e Khayaalaat karne kaa iraada e nek thaa magar lagtaa hai kisii ko is meN dilchaspii nahiiN so vo apne fitrii anjaam ya'nii marg se do chaar ho gaii :(

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KKF aap ne Ghalib ke shair wali thread ko bhula kar usse bhi qareeb az marg kar dia hai.

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/culture-literature-and-linguistics/522829-nazar-lage-na-kahiin-can-you-explain-this-sher.html

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**oh haaN…thankoo for reminding me…inshaa Allah, aaj hii is thread ko mukammil kar duuNgaa:

**aap ne yaad dilaayaa to mujhe yaad aayaa

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@KKF

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^ Classic :music:

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Thanks KKF for misleading the OP once again. :smack:

Nisha, it’s Faqr (Acceptance of Poverty with Resignation and Content, Boasting, glory), NOT Fakhr (pride). The singer didn’t make a mistake, the listener did.

"Teri fiqr hai ya faqr hai

here…read this.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/41973734/Urdu-words-English-words

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^ Thanks hareem01

so this :

Teri fiqr hai ya faqr hai

means ...

(Is this) Your worry or your saintliness ...

Not

(Is this) Your worry or your pride ...

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woah there’s another word called faqr? who knew :hehe: thanks hareem and psyah bhai, that makes sense and glad you caught that b/c i would not have known such a word existed. I’m still learning urdu :biggthumb:

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I was thinking exactly the same its “fikr” hai yaa “faqr” hai not “fakhar” hai :smack: I agree with Hareem and Psyah

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The singer has an extremely good accent. :k:

Nisha, what’s his name?

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he does have a good accent when saying the words? gosh then i just don’t know what real urdu sounds like.
apparently the singer’s name is Rakesh Pandit