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That’s what I said. Finally, someone agrees with me! Right choice and decision :k:
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The problem does exist in our desi culture (reffering to how boys are
raised vs girls). I am not saying most desi men are pigs but a lot
of them are.
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Ok, so we have determined that most desi guys are pigs. We have also determined that it is because of how they are raised, especially the moms. So you girls tell me why do you change after you get married and raise more pigs. You can do some thing about it. PCG step on it. Make sure you beat the crap out of your son so he grows up to be a woman hater exactly opposite of his mom. :)
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I dont want to agree with the generalization that all desi men are pigs...every culture has different values and different ways of raising their children so there are tendencies that do exist but that doesnt mean everyone is the same.
Anyway, I dont think the problem is the mothers and I dont think its too much or too little love. Desi boys are raised to beleive that women are to be kept separate. The whole way women are treated (the women are to stay home, college isnt as important for a girl, women have to cover themselves when going out, women are hidden from males that arent family etc etc) this all has a big impact on how boys view them. Girls and boys are not raised in an equal-opportunity environment hence the girls grow up with inferiority complexes and boys grow up with a mistrust and disrespect (for lack of a better word) of a female population they know nothing about. In an earlier post, I wrote of a 3 year old boy who was visiting us with his mother in the summer. While we were in a store, this child saw a woman in a small tank top and this little kid started yelling "Mommy, that lady NAKED! SHOOT her!" he was completely serious, thought the woman should be shot. This is most definitely the fault of the parents and how they are raising him, nothing to do with how much love and attention he gets but rather how he is being taught to view women.
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^^ MO3 it was a three yr old kid. give it a rest.;)
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glad to see the winky there, verizon saab. My GOODness. If any of our 3 ever said anything remotely like that, I'd have them to a shrink. Not that they would....
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pcg give examples, where men (for pcg: pigs) have treated you badly.
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MO3 what about #2 and using trucker language. Who should see the shrink? #2, the dada or shall we get into a group therapy. Point being MO3 that you are making a mole hill mountain thingy out of a non issue. Let it go, I am sure when he reaches puberty he would be dying to get naked.
BTW our boys do say "look at pretty missy" to all the good looking waitresses in Outback and Hooters, so call the shrink and make an appointment. Make sure the shrink is a pretty missy as well.
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The only thing I learned from this thread is that 'ravage' is a male again.
As for you PCG you need to get laid, with whatever gender you prefer. No seriously.
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Ok, this is getting off-topic (topic being why are DESI men "pigs") so I'll lets get the off-topic stuff out of the way first. When #2 says "oh siht", he is being naughty but not disrespectful to another fellow human. Calling a pretty female "pretty missy" may or may not be disrespectful so if we look at the rest of their behavior (saying please, thank you, goodbye etc) I think I can excuse it for the time being.
When a 3 year old boy issues a death sentence to a woman for wearing revealing clothing, well yes I agree that once his teenage hormones kick in his attitude will definitely change. It will then become pursuit of sex with a woman in revealing clothing - hence the exact type of attitude that this thread is complaining about. His parents are cultivating this attitude, you saw the total uproar when the kid was looking at the penneys catalog bra ads. He is destined to treat women as posessions, things...not fellow humans. It was just an example, and a good one I think of how poor relations develop between the sexes in desi-land.
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Ashtray: Ravage is a male again? Ravag needs to figure out who it is.
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Just refer to the Pakistani-men disgrace thread, and you'll see all the behavior I'm talking about.
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PCG, you do know there’s treatment out there? All is not lost. There is hope. :k:
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I think the total number of relevant and useful replies sums up to maybe 10-15 out of this whole thread. So sad. boots skhan
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Sorry didn’t see your other thread. Shouldn’t that be a sticky?
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Back to the topic. Mamaof3: you raise some excellent points.
What about frank discussions with boys as they're growing up - like treat females nicely - don't stare at them - don't touch them - be respectful...even going so far as to show them how men on the streets of Pakistan will grab women and how it hurts these women? Maybe he'll even grow up trying to do something to fix the problem!
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PCG get a life my kids/boys will touch women and I will personally tell them to touch women. I am raising boys not gays. I will tell them to stare at women as well, its a natural thing.
Dogs sniff each others butts, hell we are only staring.
I will however tell them to be respectful and treat women like women dont engage in 4:34 etc. As far as grabbing and pinching is concerned only in retaliation.
I mean in a subway if a women pinches my butt I am not a christian that will turn the other cheek to be pinched again, no sir.. I mean maam.
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PCG, i feel bad that people are picking on you for asking the question you asked...I dont think ALL desi men are pigs but there is a cultural tendency (see my previous responses) for desi males to treat women as less-than equals. You're getting picked on for saying "all" I think...I mean my hubby is paki but he is the most honorable, respectful man i've ever met....and there ARE others like him. Have faith and patience, you can find one for yourself. Just make it a requirement and a goal to find one of these gems. And should you one day be blessed with a boy child, give him lots and lots of love and teach him that people are people, whether male or female.
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what do you mean by men shouldn't stare?? pcg, don tell me u don check out "hot" guys on the street. and besides khuda ne do ankhen di hain dekhne ke liye, so u cannot ask me not to look at a certain thing. next time dont go telling some random guy on the street not to stare at you, cos he mite be staring at the hot chick just behind you.