The UN puts the deaths of Iraqi soldiers at 11,000, while estimates of the collateral deaths of Iraqi civilians from the war have varied from 8,875-10,275 (UN) to 21,700-55,000 (Medact, UK, November 2003).
Dr Polya has been researching and writing a scientific analysis of global mortality. This involves summarising mortality and its causes for all parts of the world throughout history. The ultimate aim is to address the avoidable human mortality that accounts for the approximately 20 million people who die each year from deprivation and malnourishment-related causes.
His startling estimate is that, for Iraq, excess mortality and infant mortality are “currently of the order of 100,000 per year, or about 300 per day”.
*Chota - Years of war followed by years of sanctions followed by more years of war, what did the US expect other than rose petals.
GENOCIDE
This is only Iraq, what about the 7 million on the verge of starvation in Afghanistan prior to it’s destruction by the US? What became of them, does anyone care?*
After the Holocaust and Hitler, the Europeans and the Germans got the Marshall plan and look what the innocent Iraqi people got...I wonder whether its the right analogy but these people seem to be in a perpetual state of misery even after their 'supposed' liberation.
Was there ever a doubt of the monstrosities committed by the US in Iraq? This situation is parallel to what happened in South America under Gen. M. Noriega, Gen. A. Pinochet, and under various dictators all backed by the US government.
Hundreds of thousands if not millions have been killed!
Saddam is to blame for the sanctions as he stole billions of dollars from his people through the oil for food program. He had the resources to help these children and yet you still blame the U.S. for this and you then again blame the U.S. for taking action against Saddam. Pathetic.
Saddam is to blame, who is denying that?? But when there is something wrong than whats the hitch in accepting it or pointing it out. As far as taking action agaisnt Sadam is concerned it was ok but somewhere it stepped beyond the line...accept that..
“Hundreds of thousands if not millions have been killed!”
I hate this kind of crap, and not a single Muslim will step forward to correct this type of emotional over-exaggeration. It is no wonder that tensions between the Muslim and non-muslim world are so high when rumor, wild exageration and internet mythology run wild.
(The “holocaust” analogy is undoubtedly an emotionally laden, marginally anti-Semetic, Nazi allusion that generally marks a stupid, biased and overstated politicized analysis.)
The following is by far the most exhaustive study on civilian casualties for both Afghanistan and Iraq. Before you start spouting “hundreds of thousands if not millions have been killed”, you should educate yourself and ask yourself if these casualties are inflated to inflame the emotional and uninformed.
This is only Iraq, what about the 7 million on the verge of starvation in Afghanistan prior to it's destruction by the US? What became of them, does anyone care?*
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Undoubtedly millions have been affected by these wars but who is ultimately to blame?
^ I'll tell you what champion of little men, the first time news is uncovered of a gas chamber or systematic killings of any sort by the US in Iraq (even if it's on Al Jazeera) I'll become your biggest fan? Until then, why don't you stick to writing pitiful poetry on message boards.
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**The UN puts the deaths of Iraqi soldiers at 11,000, while estimates of the collateral deaths of Iraqi civilians from the war have varied from 8,875-10,275 (UN) to 21,700-55,000 (Medact, UK, November 2003). *
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Upto 55,000 Iraqi civilians killed by the US military - that's quite a genocide if you ask me.
^what do you expect from terrorist nation US with the massive carpet bombing of Iraq Colin Powell was asked about the tens of thousands of civillians killed he replied "That's not really a number I'm terribly interested in..."
About the abuses in abu grope Bush and Co will say its only few bad apples.
The US Government make excuses and from the comments from right wing brigade on gupshup they just following the same lines!
[QUOTE] Originally posted by lost soul: *
After the Holocaust and Hitler, **the Europeans and the Germans got the Marshall plan and look what the innocent Iraqi people got*...I wonder whether its the right analogy but these people seem to be in a perpetual state of misery even after their 'supposed' liberation.
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America can't afford to instigate a Marshal Plan this time around. They can't afford (or maybe, more properly, can't manage) security operations in Iraq. The fruits of any Marshal-style plan would be soon destroyed in the environment America keeps in Iraq. I guess these are things that should have been thought through prior to the war.. unfortunately confidence killed that plan.