The ummah exists - it's neither islamic nor religious

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after reading a number of fervent wishes for the ummah state I got to thinking what it’d really be like:

  1. it would span multiple regions
  2. multiple cultures
  3. multiple races
  4. multiple languages

then it became clear - it exists and it’s 2 places: India & the USA. Both India & USA have:

  1. multiple regions within the vast land
  2. more cultures flourishing than you can count
  3. racial diversity is cherished
  4. number of languages & dilects are countless

Europe is moving towards that model too - Euro currency unification is just the first step.

So why can’t the middle-east & Africa do this?

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Re: The ummah exists - it’s neither islamic nor religious

Ummah is not a general term (a la confederation) but it is a Muslim homeland (something like where all, as in ALL, Muslims live). So we are talking of a huge 800-lb gorilla from Northwest Africa till the last islands of Indonesia. Something that’s not practical in these days :rolleyes:

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Re: The ummah exists - it's neither islamic nor religious

May be ummah and caliphate got mixed up

Welcome your new mod
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Re: The ummah exists - it's neither islamic nor religious

A hindu is now teaching is us our own religion.

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Re: The ummah exists - it's neither islamic nor religious

n on top of it he calls india an ummah!...even when they get anglicised, they still want Muslim cultural symbols...talks of heirarchy of cultures within 'diverse' india.....:o

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Re: The ummah exists - it's neither islamic nor religious

even one ethnic group like kurds cant be integrated surely you need to be taught
about islam.

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Re: The ummah exists - it’s neither islamic nor religious

a good articel about historical ummah

In seventeenth century India, Emperor Jahangir had his son Khusrau’s eyes gouged out as punishment for a premature bid for the throne and Shah Jehan had all potential male contenders put to death to secure his position. Aurangzeb, renowned for his Islamic piety, had no scruples in killing his three brothers to wrest the Mughal throne. He even had the severed head of Dara Shikoh delivered to their distraught father, the imprisoned former emperor Shah Jehan, as payback for his having favoured Dara as his successor. Between them, these three Great Mughal emperors destroyed other independent Muslim entities in India, most notably the states of Bijapur and Golconda in the south, which were already weakened by the same rivalries and wars which characterised Muslim states elsewhere.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_24-3-2005_pg3_2

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