The Trouble with Islam

Irshad Manji was formerly a news anchor on Toronto’s City TV. I’m sorry if any of you are offended by my views on her.

Personally, I cannot stand this woman. I don’t care about the fact that she is gay. What bothers me is the way she speaks in her interviews. She has a very ‘holier than thou’ attitude … if any of you have seen her live or seen her interviews on t.v., you may understand what I’m talking about.

On top of that, she has an unattractive moustache which is quite distracting.

Rousing Islam

Irshad Manji’s new book, The Trouble With Islam: A Wake-Up Call for Honesty and Change, could make her non-fiction’s Salman Rushdie, MICHAEL POSNER writes

By MICHAEL POSNER
Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - Page R1

Some weeks ago, Irshad Manji suggested to her downstairs tenant that it might be a good idea if she packed up and left. There was no problem – the suggestion was merely precautionary. Manji, a high-profile, secular, gay Muslim writer and broadcaster, explained that she had a new book coming out, that its contents were provocative and that it might well elicit some sort of reprisal.

Provocative?

Incendiary is more like it. The book – The Trouble With Islam: A Wake-Up Call for Honesty and Change (Random House) – may well become to non-fiction what Salman Rushdie’s 1988 novel The Satanic Verses was to fiction. Not just explosive but, in all likelihood, in the eyes of Muslim fundamentalists from Tehran to Jakarta, blasphemous.

Rushdie, you will remember, had a formal fatwa issued against him – an Islamic death warrant, pronounced by the late Ayatollah Khomeini. Rushdie’s crime: a fictional presentation of the prophet Mohammed that devout Muslims interpreted as less than flattering. He spent the next eight years in hiding.

Manji, though not nearly as well known, has gone even further – and she’s doing it without the modestly protective cover of literary fiction.

In a breezy conversational tone that disguises the revolutionary nature of her ideas, if not the intellectual rigour of her argument, the 35-year-old first documents and then challenges her faith to rid itself of what she sees as anti-Semitism, antifeminism, slavery and homophobia. Worse, from the vantage point of fundamentalist Islam, she dares to question the assumed perfection of the Koran itself.

The Islamic holy book, she writes, “is not transparently egalitarian for women. It’s not transparently anything except enigmatic. . . . It’s Muslims who manufacture consent in Allah’s name. The decisions we make on the basis of the Koran aren’t dictated by God; we make them of our own human free will.”

The Koran’s insistence on absolute submission, she further maintains, is an express train to “brain-dead.”

Not for nothing is her Web site labelled muslim-refusenik.com. The Web site’s address is, in part, a misnomer, because Manji isn’t refusing Islam outright; she’s spent years reading the Koran and the more interpretive commentaries called hadiths and considers herself a devout Muslim, within her own terms.

“I’m not asking Muslims to do something outside of our tradition,” she insists. “Just the opposite: I’m trying to help revive ijtihad, Islam’s lost tradition of independent thinking. And this opportunity to rediscover ijtihad is especially available to Muslims in the West, because it’s here that we already enjoy precious freedoms to challenge and be challenged, without fear of state reprisal. What I’m trying to do is promote tolerance. To get there, I and a critical mass of my fellow Muslims need to confront the intolerance that’s percolating in our own ranks.”

State reprisal, certainly. But reprisal by Muslim authorities or some determined fundamentalist is another matter. They’re apt to find iconoclasm on just about every page of The Trouble With Islam.

It’s not surprising, then, that virtually every Islamic scholar or police agency consulted in advance concluded that Manji was either a very brave or a very foolish woman – the threat of violent backlash, they all agreed, was real.

Or, as her mother used to admonish her, “Irshad, you have lots of intelligence, but no common sense.”

Not surprising, either, that the book’s publisher, Random House, in July asked the federal Solicitor-General, Wayne Easter, to grant international protected person status to Manji. His department denied that request, arguing that it can only provide such security to non-Canadians at risk in Canada. But there’s no doubt that the RCMP as well as local police officials in Toronto are maintaining a watching brief on her case.

Manji, of course, is acutely aware of the danger – she’s had bullet-resistant glass installed in the windows of her home. She knows that Muslim extremists not only hounded Rushdie, but exacted revenge for the perceived sins of Egypt’s Nobel laureate novelist Naguib Mahfouz – 30 years after a book they regarded as heretical appeared – by stabbing him in the neck.

Were her book only appearing in Canada, it’s possible the storm would pass quickly. But The Trouble With Islam has already been published in Germany and will appear in the United States, Australia, Britain, France and the Netherlands next year. It may also appear in Hebrew and Arabic, courtesy of an Israeli publisher.

As Manji sees it, extremists have seized control of Islam because “we moderates have turned our back on independent thinking and let them.” And that control, she’s convinced, is being exercised not only in the mosques and madrassas of Pakistan, Iran, Malaysia, Nigeria and other centres of Muslim culture, but among diaspora Muslim communities in North America as well. She recently found herself on a university campus and overheard a young, articulate imam preaching to a roomful of acolytes. "He was shouting . . ., ‘the Jihad begins right here – this is your responsibility!’ " Manji recalls.

Literal interpretation of the Koran is now so deeply embedded in the Muslim mindset, she maintains, that even reform-minded disciples “have no clue how to debate or challenge.” To do so is to invite being labelled a kafir or infidel – as Manji already has been in denunciatory e-mails.

To some extent, she is inured to the abuse. Immigrating with her family from Uganda when she was 8, Manji grew up in Richmond, B.C., in what she calls an “incredibly violent household,” dominated by her father’s black, occasionally knife-wielding moods. Demonstrating a precocious sense of self and ability, she early on determined that education would be her passport “out of insularity and tribalism.” A scholarship student, the first humanities scholar to win UBC’s Governor-General’s Medal for top graduate, she practised her public-speaking abilities by interviewing herself in front of a mirror, and strengthened her muscles – needed to respond to racist taunts from classmates – by lugging volumes of an encyclopedia in her knapsack.

Before she was 30, Manji had written editorials for The Ottawa Citizen, hosted a public-affairs show on Vision TV, debated hot-button issues on TVOntario and written her first book, Risking Utopia: On the Edge of a New Democracy. Ms. Magazine called her a “Feminist for the 21st Century;” Maclean’s chose her as one of its 100 “Leaders for Tomorrow.” More recently, she’s been a writer-in-residence at the University of Toronto’s Hart House, host of TVOntario’s Big Ideas, and president of something called VERB TV, a channel (still in development) for young people. The idea for The Trouble With Islam emerged from a post-9/11 column she wrote for The Globe and Mail, in which she called on Muslims to “defend the very pluralism that makes it possible for us to be here in the first place.”

Despite the undeniable risks, Manji is intrepid, if not fearless. “It may sound corny to a non-immigrant,” she said over coffee one morning last week, “but we immigrants totally understand that what we have here in the West is precious. And I don’t mean material goods – I mean freedom. There is something I’ve got here as a Muslim woman that I probably couldn’t expect in too many other places. I’ve been using it since I was a kid and damn it, I’m not going to stop now. I have a very thick skin, a pretty big brain and, I will be the first to admit, an even bigger mouth. I don’t pretend to have all the answers. But thank God, yours and mine, that in this part of the world it is not only a right to ask questions – it is right to ask questions.”

http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20030916/IRSHAD16//?query=Islam

Can;t wait for the book. Looks interesting. I will wait till the NY times book review or the one on the New Yorker.

Matsui, I don't know about the book but the woman is very annoying in her t.v. interviews. It could be the way she speaks ... it could be the moustache ... I dunno.

oh yea she used to host that gay show.. i was a bit surprised at actually the first time i saw her.. khair yea i know mehnaz what u r saying.. she is annoying and exaggerates everything. she was also the host of Islam and gayism or something like that series. do u know the president of the muslim gay community in north america is a pakistani gay guy ? :~S

pretty disturbing stuff. what i dont understand is why do they only attack islam? as far as I know chritianity or judaism or perhaps hinduism also condemns homosexuality, so how come i dont see anything written against those religions?

I don't want to distract from the thread, but why do gay women have moustaches or other extra hair? Is it the done thing? I saw this tv talk show in India recently, and one of the participants was a gay girl. She didn't have a moustache but she had very hairy arms, and the hair extended to her knuckles almost. She spoke intelligently, but all you could do was stare at her arms and wish she'd shave it off.

Anyway, I am sure the book will create a riot.

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oh yea she used to host that gay show.. i was a bit surprised at actually the first time i saw her.. khair yea i know mehnaz what u r saying.. she is annoying and exaggerates everything. she was also the host of Islam and gayism or something like that series. do u know the president of the muslim gay community in north america is a pakistani gay guy ? :~S

pretty disturbing stuff. what i dont understand is why do they only attack islam? as far as I know chritianity or judaism or perhaps hinduism also condemns homosexuality, so how come i dont see anything written against those religions?
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Well for one I don't think people react so much in other religions. I'm sure some gay must have said or written things against hinduism, but I haven't heard of it, which proves it wasn't taken as a big deal. Coincidentally I just read in the TOI front page today that gays are the new fashion statement.

"Islam" to her is what happens in Saudi Arabia or Iran, or Pakistan, or Bangladesh or Malaysia or Sudan or Nigeria???

Idiot.. aa jaatay hain pata naheen kahaan kahaan say.. mixing religious edicts by a maulvi in the same breath with misinterpreted out of context Qur'anic verses.. just cuz she want to defend her lifestyle..

the Bangladeshi writer had a similar violent background.. a little therapy would have been better for the both of them.

Yes, I agree. She is very annoying.

Very annoying indeed, I haven't even seen her TV show and her article just proves her ignorant character!

She's a dyke for good reason, not many blokes would be interested. On the book itself I don't really have much comment, some of her views might even be valid. Taking potshots at Islam is a sure fire way to get publicity and sell books though, so she's a hard-headed dyke at that.

XTreme, I walked by her the other day on my way to work. I can't even see women finding her attractive or being remotely interested in her. The moustache has to go. I wish she would realise that. I should have said something, but she seemed like she was in a rush.

So the fact that she looks like a female groucho marx, makes her views less palatable?

Yes.

Actually I've already said that some of her views are not far off the mark, there should be room for itjehad (which basically means that scripture should be looked at in light of the current times) but this looks more of a business venture to me.

Yes Matsui. :)

Seriously, you have to see her in interviews. She was just on CBC's "Hot Type" discussion with various Muslim people sitting around a table and debating the contents of the Quran. She's very knit-picky ... taking one or two sentences here and there from the Quran and using those as the foundations of her argument. Even when it is explained to her what it really means, she seems set in her mindset. What's the difference between her and "fanatics" who do the same thing?

To me, she takes sentences from the Quran, manipulates them for her own means and takes it completely out of context ... the same way 'fundamentalists' do the same thing. She's an extremist in her own way.

All this stuff she keeps harping about regarding Islam and women's rights ... Islam DOES give women equality and rights. However, it's the culture and mentality in societies across the planet which have a problem with this.

So she has a moustache?! I wont be reading anything of hers. Glad you guys got in before I forked out dollar on a dyke.

So Mehnaz, she is no different from most muslims that I have come across. They have lost interest in message but not in the words. And idiots don;t even know that interest is haraam.

Hmm ... yeah, maybe. oh well. In the meantime, she should update her wardrobe, do something about the hair on her head and face. She might sell more books if not for her appearance.

Irshad Manji was such a good anchor she got booted and now works at TVO. (I did'nt read the article :D)

Its hard to swallow that she wants ppl to change their views and revive ijtihad with the method she has chosen. Bullet proof glass was installed because people are going to be more willing to look into ijtihad after reading her book. sigh