Interesting. U r right, time heals all, n u move on.. but U cannot say no human feeling is essential, it makes us who we are. What we have gone thru, the hurt, the pain, the joy, the hate, it all shapes us, and how we handle relationships with people in our lives. It really shapes our perception of how we feel about the every other concept in this world. Although what we go thru the "now" will soon pass, and might be even forgotten, it has taught us some form of a lesson on a superficial, or a might even be at deeper level. We move on, but only a bit wiser, a bit guarded, a bit less naive. we become adults, with time, with emotions and with life.
If this doesnt make sense, im probably on the right track- lost!!
I know you’re not. I’m just trying to get you to recognize that simply because you’ve defined something logically, or tried to figure out some symbolic meaning of life, that doesn’t mean it’s ineffectual, nor that it has a value that can cheapen.
If you’re looking for life goal, life meaning, you can always define one yourself. A friend of mine wants to be the best human being he knows how to be. I say that he knows how to be, it’s because his idea of the best human being is not my notion of one, but he tries and he’s a good guy, so I guess it counts. Myself; I’m looking to create something I’m proud of. A legacy of sorts. We’ll see how that pans out. I’m hopeful, and I’ll enjoy myself on the way. Those moments can add up quickly, and build our lives.
so we change with our experiences. we are all products of instinct and learning.. perhaps we’d be different without them but would one really find solace in the fact that now they dont dream, supposing that was a consequence of their life’s lessons. Im not saying experiences, people, emotions dont have an impact, im saying that impact isnt essential.
I’ll tell you the thought process here. Im not one to deliberately trivialise human condition, but people force you to. Suppose you go through some black times, what is the most common thing you hear? ‘things will work out’. ‘you will get over it in time’. and yeah, you do. and yeah, no matter what it means to me today, i will be indifferent to it in time. that, to me, is a laughable reflection on our dearest thoughts and feelings. If a monument you build breaks away into dust the moment you turn your eyes, how proud of it can you be? if your loved ones can be forgotten two years on, what did that ‘love’ mean except attachment through contact?
yeah that is the best option isnt it. if one cant find answers to his satisfaction here, try to distract yourself in some grander purpose in order to negate all this. it could be personal glory or it could be submission to Allah. both have been suggested on this thread, both in the same spirit. aint that a bit synthetic tho?
i hope your moments are whatever you want them to be.
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so we change with our experiences. we are all products of instinct and learning.. perhaps we'd be different without them but would one really find solace in the fact that now they dont dream, supposing that was a consequence of their life's lessons. Im not saying experiences, people, emotions dont have an impact, im saying that impact isnt essential.
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The impact is essential, how can we be left unchanged without emotions, its not possible. Our beliefs, values, the moral fabric of our existance is composed of what we have learned with the emotions that come with life. Even a child raised by wolves would identify the wolf with maternal instinct. We cannot be anything but products of what we have learned with lessons instructed by life and all that is thrown our way. I havent come across somone, who isnt a products of all that was learned with time, mistakes, turns, burned bridges, and all that.
RT Wolf i agree with what you're saying in essence but i wanted to add one thing here. some emotions are the work of shaitaan and must be quelled the instant one feels them :) i mean if you feel jealous of someone, your soul acknowledges that feeling and you should instantly tell yourself...STOP STOP STOP! STOP FEELING LIKE THAT! And if you do this sincerely and often enough then you will stop doing that. Allah Himself will help you. this is jihad-e-nafs which a Muslim has to do ALL the time. we can't just let go of our emotions and let ourselves feel whatever we want to feel and do whatever we want to do.
in many ways, certain feelings, or lets say, the direction of flow of emotion, is based on a CONSCIOUS DECISION. and if you control that direction often enough then with the help of Allah swt that emotion itself CAN indeed die :)
Ibn Sadique bhai jazakallah for your first post :) Really appreciate your thoughts there. We are accountable for every single moment. Indeed.