"The Taliban Are Well Liked" a MUST read!

The Taliban Are Well Liked"

A Japanese doctor’s up-close observations contradict overseas reports

By MUTSUKO MURAKAMI

Thursday, October 18, 2001

Japanese doctor Tetsu Nakamura works with leprosy patients and refugees in
Afghanistan and Pakistan. It’s a job that keeps him in touch with the raw
reality of life in that troubled country. And he says that from what he
has seen, the Taliban are being wrongly portrayed internationally.
“There’s something wrong with the media reports,” he says. “This talk of
the Taliban being vicious and disliked doesn’t fit with reality.” Nakamura
says the fundamentalists have wide support from the population,
particularly in rural areas. “Otherwise, how can they rule 95% of the
country with only 15,000 soldiers?”

Villagers around Nakamura’s Peshawar base hospital and 10 clinics in both
northwestern Pakistan and eastern Afghanistan were pleased to see peace
established under Taliban rule, he says. The Pushtun people, who make up
two-thirds of the Afghan population, can accept strict Muslim codes
because they have lived by them all their lives, he says. Women are not
deprived of education or jobs, as far as he can see. In fact, half the
local doctors at his clinics are women.

So why are the people of the capital, Kabul, reportedly hoping to see the
Taliban overthrown? “The Taliban may act differently there,” he told me
when we met recently in Tokyo. “They’re obliged to fix the corrupt urban
life. The people most vocal in criticizing the Taliban are upper-class
Afghans who have been deprived of their privileges.” Nakamura’s words
reminded me of news footage I have seen several times since the attacks on
New York and Washington. Shot by French journalists in Afghanistan, it
showed Afghan women speaking critically of the Taliban. Significantly,
they are dressed in shiny silk-like costumes, with large rings on their
fingers.

Nakamura, 55, says the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance are not the freedom
fighters some journalists describe them as. Villagers are frightened of
them because they are more violent and cruel than the Taliban, he says.
They execute innocent people in horrific ways, though not in public as the
Taliban do as a warning to others.

Nakamura works for Peshawar kai Medical Services, a Japanese aid agency
based in Fukuoka City that has been operating in the Peshawar district for
17 years. He first visited the area as an alpinist when he was still a
medical school student in Fukuoka. Shocked by the lack of medical care in
the area, particularly for leprosy patients, he volunteered to work at a
local hospital in l984. He says: "I spent most of my time not in straight
medical work but in trying to understand my patients, their lifestyles and
values – what makes them weep or what matters most for them. “Luckily, I
can eat anything and sleep anywhere,” he grins.

Nakamura has seen foreigners visiting Afghanistan and returning home to
criticize the Muslim culture – from a Western perspective. These people
may be “heroes or heroines in London or New York,” he says, “but they
contribute nothing to the welfare of Afghans.” As for suggestions the
Taliban have cut the country off from the world, Nakamura says the Afghans
are perhaps better informed than the Japanese, as they listen daily to BBC
radio in their own language.

The doctor’s greatest concern is the fate of millions of starving refugees
in and around Afghanistan. Over one million of them are suffering from
hunger, he says, while up to 40% are bordering on starvation. He thinks
10% could die during the winter. Nakamura and his staff stopped focusing
exclusively on leprosy in the l980s as they had so many refugees to deal
with, many suffering from malaria, diarrhea, infections and fever. Severe
draught in recent years created hundreds of thousands of refugees. And now
the American bombing and the fear of an invasion has brought more. His aid
agency helps to dig wells not only to provide water but also for
irrigation for farms, so that the refugees can return to their villages.

Back home in Japan temporarily and thinking of his base area in Pakistan
and Afghanistan, Nakamura says: “It’s all like a mirage far off in the
desert.” He fondly recalls the red-brown soil of Afghanistan fields, the
villagers sharing their joy about water from newly dug wells, and the
friendly faces of Taliban soldiers helping villagers. “I have one simple
question,” he says. “What are the big powers trying to defend by attacking
this ailing, tiny country?” It’s a good question.

interesting

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*Originally posted by sadya: *
"Otherwise, how can they rule 95% of the
country with only 15,000 soldiers?"

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Isn't that quite simple and straightforward. 15000 trained terrorists, drunk in the Islamic fundamentalist opiate or jihad and martyrdom, emboldened with ultrapid fire machine guns and unlimited supply of ammo, can easily rule over 15 million.

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*Originally posted by TomSawyer: *

Isn't that quite simple and straightforward. 15000 trained terrorists, drunk in the Islamic fundamentalist opiate or jihad and martyrdom, emboldened with ultrapid fire machine guns and unlimited supply of ammo, can easily rule over 15 million.
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No wonder why Taliban sets your dhoti on fire.

Too bad, the buffoons got the dhotis that just got back from teh Haj

Yeah Taliban are well liked. So is cancer, the plague, tripe, a hole in the head and domestic violence

The Taliban are Baaaa-ck

The Taliban are Baaaa-ck

Return of the Taliban: Classic Guerrilla Warfare vs U.S. Power

http://www.jihadonline.net/modules.php?name=NukeWrap&page=Taliban/taliban.htm

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*Originally posted by teaser: *

No wonder why Taliban sets your dhoti on fire.
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HA HA bro u said it man ! ,

Matty and TS tell me did the Taliban used to treat u bad ?
or would they not allow u to get out of your homes with out Burka ??
if so my simpathies with you :)

I don't think the phenomenon is as wide and sincere as some would say it is. Really this says more about the perception of the American/allied performance than it does about the Taliban.

I dont know about the Taliban- " Students" but i do know this as a Security Opperative all terrorists and extreemeists aremy enimies!! Muslims or not. A terrorists has no identity and given half the chance would kill us all or force us to revert to the good old days 2000 years ago.. Well that aint gonna happen!.

So why have you deemed them terrorists? Are you only judging on the media reports? What exactly have the Taliban done, that you think they are terrorists?

Creek, the Taliban didn't 'introduce' the burka, it was there long before the Taliban. It has been a religious/cultural tradition since decades.

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*Originally posted by sadya: *
So why have you deemed them terrorists? Are you only judging on the media reports? What exactly have the Taliban done, that you think they are terrorists?

Creek, the Taliban didn't 'introduce' the burka, it was there long before the Taliban. It has been a religious/cultural tradition since decades.
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Dude read my post i have labeld Taliban as Students they were just younge headstrong men whome were curropted by evil men to carry out attacks on innocent people!!! - Violence begets violence!! But in some ways when you kill someones mother, father, brother and sister infrot of them i guess this sort of hatred is boound to be bred.. I will say this the US dose need to look at its foriegn policy.

I've been reading that they helped Afghanistan get up. They reunited the country. I read that women were being exchagned by different tribes when they had differences and wanted to make it up, they would just exchange women, well, the Taliban have stoppped that horrible practice. Under the rule of Taliban more females started to attend school. They had limited recourses and experience, but did what they could.

I don't like terrorists either, I don't think the taliban are terrorists, I haven't seen them do any terrorist act. These same kind of people were the hero's during the war against Russia, while they were fighting, people like bin Laden, they as far as I know anyway, didn't blow up ambassies back then or any other buildings during that time. I don't believe for a minute that they are terrorists. The Taliban reduced teh opium to zero percent, up to then they were the biggest opium deliverers in the world. The first time I read these facts, was from an Islamic group, these things are never given any publicity at all, not here in anyway. ONly lies. It seems to me they were scapegoats. The people you see on tv, the women happy that the Taliban were gone, are mostly the rich. The common people mostly have different feelings.

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*Originally posted by creek: *

HA HA bro u said it man ! ,

Matty and TS tell me did the Taliban used to treat u bad ?
or would they not allow u to get out of your homes with out Burka ??
if so my simpathies with you :)
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No creek, Taliban did not mistreat me personally. They did however hijack loaded planes and flew into some really tall buildings, killing thousands. as a results they irrevocably damaged the lives of Muslims around the world, gave new power to the Bush regime in the US and a following to the Hindutva crowd in India, brought global focus on ISI and fundamentalist organizations. They also brought unforgivable shame to honest Muslims.

Why does that make you feel happy my friend?

I dunno if you feel this but world’s focus has always been on islam and muslims. And whats up with this term fundamentalist? As far as i know the fundamental of islam is kalima. If we are not practising islam then we have no right to criticise some one who is.
Another thing, they always teach us this great deal about media manupilation and consummer driven society and obsession with looks. Wonder what their problem is when somebody stops consummer craze and media manupilation in their country. I don’t know enought to pass judgement about taliban. But i do know that we are not hearing complete truth. The other day on tv this news caster was like , are women not allowed to wear makeup ? do they have to cover themselves? Just think at this point their objection is against islam or taliban?:frusty2:
Why do muslims have to justify their every action and also why they take the worst kind of example and use it to represent a faith?Why do they always assume worst of every one. Perhaps the fault is not only in us!:disgust:

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*Originally posted by TomSawyer: *
They did however hijack loaded planes and flew into some really tall buildings, killing thousands.

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Would you be so kind enough please to point me to a source where there is evidence on this.
Also while your at it could also please show me the weapons of mass destruction in iraq.
Thanks.

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*Originally posted by TomSawyer: *

No creek, Taliban did not mistreat me personally. They did however hijack loaded planes and flew into some really tall buildings, killing thousands. as a results they irrevocably damaged the lives of Muslims around the world, gave new power to the Bush regime in the US and a following to the Hindutva crowd in India, brought global focus on ISI and fundamentalist organizations. They also brought unforgivable shame to honest Muslims.

Why does that make you feel happy my friend?
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prove it :~)

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*Originally posted by sadya: *
So why have you deemed them terrorists? Are you only judging on the media reports? What exactly have the Taliban done, that you think they are terrorists?

Creek, the Taliban didn't 'introduce' the burka, it was there long before the Taliban. It has been a religious/cultural tradition since decades.
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On what implication you are justifying the fact that they aren't terrorist????????. Tell me something..why TALIBAN has emerged..who is responsible???? Let alone the problem they created everywhere.
I will inShAllah give you more insight regarding that topic..after i Do my own research.
JazaKAllah

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*Originally posted by EntityParadigm: *

prove it :~)
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There is nothing to prove, everything is outhere.

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Another factual post by Tomsawyer/Matsui. :hehe: