The story about the man who opposed the cartoons & opposed the ban

One of the key online campaigners against the cartoons, tried to launch a campaign against the banning of facebook..the end result ? read on..

http://www.newslinemagazine.com/2010/05/critics-of-facebook-ban-face-nasty-battle/
I sat in my car at a distance from the main gate of the Karachi Press Club, thinking of what to do. I was already late by half an hour to the May 20th press conference called to discuss the ban on Facebook. Those who had called the press conference were of the view that the ban should be revoked: just because some pages contained objectionable content didn’t mean the whole domain should be blocked. But what made me particularly uncomfortable was the idea of crossing a crowd that had gathered outside the club gate protesting against an attack on “namoos-e-risalat” while everyone gathered on the street was probably aware of what was taking place inside. How would they react to me crossing from amongst them to attend something they obviously were against? Besides, I certainly did not look like I was there to support them. Nor was there any other woman in sight.

I finally managed to gather up the courage. I approached the police mobile parked close to the crowd and asked whether I could enter the press club. Getting the go-ahead, I quickly steered through the procession. I was in pursuit of Awab Alvi, or Teeth Maestro as he is known in cyberspace, one of the organisers of the conference. I arrived to find that the conference had ended so I stood and waited my turn to have a quick word with him.

While I waited I was informed by someone who attended that the conference wasn’t well received. He pointed to a group sitting in the garden of the press club and told me how they had vehemently opposed Awab’s stance; some even questioned whether he was Muslim. And then one thing led to another.

Members of the procession outside got the scoop on what had taken place inside. For them Awab’s stance was as blasphemous as the Facebook page itself. And by the time we found out what a stir it had caused on the street and were directed to exit from the side gate, it was too late. Angry protesters had already made their way inside the club and caught hold of Awab, telling him to come outside and speak his mind to the crowd. Upon his refusal, they threatened to forcibly take him. More than once, different groups caught hold of him and pushed and shoved him around, lashing out at Awab for voicing his opinions.

As for me, I suppose I was deemed guilty by association. And even though several fellow journalists reassured me that because I was from the media the crowd wouldn’t do anything to me, I wasn’t convinced.

Because our cars were parked out front where the procession stood, leaving was impossible. We were like sitting ducks. So Awab and I found ourselves in the Press Club office, hidden from the public eye, waiting for things to subside and the protesters to disperse.

We sat in the office, immobile and answered numerous phone calls, updating everyone on the mess we were in and waiting for someone to deliver us from it. It took a couple of hours for us to get out safely. The SHO escorted Awab out the back, where he was made to jump on a motorcycle with one of the club employees who escorted him to his office. I was made to sit a while longer till the press club officials could arrange for my car to be brought inside the club’s parking lot so I could make my exit.

So this is what happens in Pakistan when you disagree with public opinion. While we were protected from the lynch mob and cannot be thankful enough to the press club officials for taking speedy action, there were many people within the press club, journalists, who were disgusted with us and told us (more than once) to get out of the press club, even before the actual showdown with the protesters took place. What to say of these journalists and our media? Several TV channels were there when Awab was being shoved around – one man against so many others – but was that news worthy? Did any channel air footage of that? No.

But why not? Awab was hounded by them after the press conference, followed around and caught on tape while he was being manhandled, but what of it?

Isn’t the lynching of a man for voicing an opinion different from that of the majority something worthy of airtime? Why were the two of us left to ring up people to get the word around of the situation we were in and to help us get out of it while the media men conveniently disappeared after getting their slice of the pie?

This is what I foresee following in the days to come. People who want to discuss the ban on Facebook will be called non-believers and labelled as foreign agents working on a western agenda – I caught snippets of such nattering several times while the pushing and shoving took place. There will be a cry to use the blasphemy law against people who are against the ban on Facebook (and now the blockage of YouTube, Wikipedia, etc). Notwithstanding the countrywide protests that have already gained momentum with the government being ordered by men on the streets to take effective action or be prepared to face consequences, more and more lynch mobs will appear, eager to tear to pieces anybody with a different opinion.

I do not condone the cartoons, the Facebook page and also Facebook’s inaction. Had this been an anti-Semitic campaign, the page would have been taken down immediately; and it is not an exaggeration that when it comes to Muslims, a hundred excuses are invented for their voices to be silenced.

So register your protest, deactivate your accounts (if you can access them), or boycott Facebook by all means. But things are not simply black and white. There are issues to discuss and problems to resolve, so why can’t there be a discussion?

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Pakistanis are jaahil.

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what a load of bull. let's get back to reserving some more airtime for mr and mrs sania mirza. disgust

x 1000 :hinna:

Next thing you know, they’d probably burn the teeth maestro’s effigy on the streets and come up with a fatwa declaring him an infidel for opposing the Molvi mafia…

Thought I’d add this..

The popular video-sharing website YouTube and the social network Facebook remain blocked in Pakistan as part of a crackdown on websites seen to be hosting un-Islamic content.

Here, two bloggers in Pakistan give their position on the government’s internet crackdown.
AGAINST THE BAN: DR AWAB ALVI
Dr. Awab Alvi

A group of us internet users, calling ourselves “Defenders of Internet Freedom in Pakistan”, conducted a press conference yesterday where we gave our position on the Facebook ban.

We object to blasphemous content on Facebook but we are against a blanket ban.

As a Muslim, I do find the idea of the cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad offensive. But my personal view is that if there’s objectionable content, then only the URL that takes you to that content should be banned.

We are all being held hostage. YouTube and Flickr are blocked. Twitter was blocked too, though I was been able to access it again a few hours ago.

If they continue to block things, this is going to hinder Pakistan’s progress

The actions by the Pakistan Telecommunications Authority is getting out of hand. Wikipedia is going down and more and more people, I think, are beginning to realise the impact of this decision.

Only about 8% of the country’s population are internet users. So for the majority of Pakistanis, life continues as it is. They are protesting against the fact that there are cartoons and condemning something they haven’t even seen.

There are wider issues. The internet has become a way of life itself. If they continue to block things, this is going to hinder Pakistan’s progress.

Pakistan is an emotionally-charged nation that continues to believe that the Facebook ban is justified. We are a minority of people who disagree and who present the issue publicly.

Yesterday I was nearly beaten up after the press conference. We were confronted with questions like: Are we Muslims? Then why do we defend Facebook? If you are for Facebook, then you are non-Muslim, you see.

Dr Awab Alvi writes for www.teeth.com.pk/blog

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awab asked for it i guess.kiss nai kaha tha tarzan beno.
awab ki to roti rozi facebook or blogs say munsalik hai i guess.
ous ka blog ban ho gia to kia banay gaa.??

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@frozen .... so you saying he shouldn't have done it? he shouldn't have voiced his opinion just becuz it risks his job? thats the problem u see. muslims say "down with freedom of speech" ... but when it comes to them practicing it (which they most certainly do) ... their idea of it is only violence and anger. why cant they go draw rima fakih instead to protest !!

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no i dident say that.dont put words in my mouth
i said he asked for it.

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In Pakistan, it’s really difficult for a person who doesn’t explicitly adopt an extreme viewpoint… our people refuse to engage in dialog to see that there is a continuum of options available to them. Our people are very unidimensional in their viewpoints… this latest case of facebook ban has epitomized this issue further: *If you oppose the ban, then you’re obviously condoning the draw Muhammad event *:smack:

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If non-muslims can leave facebook for their privacy concerns, why can’t we Muslims for the greatest of concerns?! I would stop being the reason of facebook’s high profits than to continue on helping the same people who kept displaying the filthy page.

Thats the thing CP… I totally respect your own individual prerogative to stop using facebook as a symbol of your protest - but I do not think the government has any right to make that choice on behalf of the entire population. I had friends and colleagues in Pakistan who wanted to actively counter facebook’s lack of response on this event through various efforts such as joining the Honour Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) group on facebook, but all these individuals were denied that option because of their government’s ban on facebook as a whole.

Besides, in my opinion, if we as individuals had opted to deactivate our accounts and/or stop using fb out of our own volition… that would have sent a stronger message to fb than a govt. ban that basically mandated that people not use it.

The government is elected by the people. They became your representatives. *Why do we have to have any laws? Why dont we just live in a state where we are free to do what we want to do and with no one stopping us? *

Liberal Muslims and Secular Muslims do not seem to understand that so many people hate Islam. Ad no matter how much you discuss and show tolerance they will constantly find a reason to attack you on.

If these people were into discussions they would think if it offends you I wot do it.

Sometimes you have to stand up for what you believe in and whats precious to you. If you dont you ll become so liberal you'll find you have no principles.

The government has not bombed anyone, not encouraged violence but taken a peaceful step - but still we complain?

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^i agree with you fully.
Some people just cant give up viewing friend's friends pages.its nothing short of shugal for them.

So let's use this same logic to understand why certain govts around the world are banning the full veil... we shouldn't be complaining about that step either.
It's hypocrisy to use freedom of expression as a reason to oppose that aspect of government action while using representative action as a reason to support government action in the facebook case.

Using the three reasons you've cited above for fb ban by government being a legitimate action in the context of Pakistan's population, here are similar reasons for French government's action:

  1. The French government was elected by the french people (possibly including muslim constituents).

  2. If the general French public is offended by the veil, then Muslim women should not wear it.

  3. the French government has not bombed anyone, and possibly saved Muslim women against public intolerance and harassment...

Just to clarify, my own stance on the veil issue is exactly similar to the fb issue... I think it's a person's prerogative to wear or not wear it, and it's not the French govt.'s place to impose a ban.

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The anti muslim / anti Pakistani mafia definitely understands & knows the psychology of Pakistani people than the muslims / Pakistanis themselves. Everytime they make use of that 'emotional' psychology to reach a certain agenda.

But being an optimistic & always trying to pick the best out of any situation, I have always prayed, wished & believe that every such act of the manipulation of gullible Pakistani people backfire & turn to bring out positivity instead. I am hoping that this would actually 'secure' Pakistani people's private information they put on fb, the internet & much information about Pakistani affairs that Pakistanis have put on youtube in the form of videos, in their naivety, simply because they feel proud of their country. That is like indirectly working for the anti Pakistan mafia to provide them all the information for free which they would have to travel to Pakistan or send their agents to obtain............. So, I guess, that would be less likely now.

Bro, like 'thejoke' said, it's about principle.

I don't consider Pakistan a country that fully represents Islam BUT at least imaan is still beating in them(gov/officials). I fully support their ban 100%. Why?Because they stood up for truth (as we ALL here agree on).. comparing the french to muslims, it's like apples and oranges.. Your argument would stand if Pakistan was representing a majority non-muslim population and similar position as France.

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I would just say one thing don't forget Pakistan is a nation whose people just forgot what they suffered during Benazir's government , they just forgot the Mr.10% background of Zardari , jey just forgot what they suffered under IMF regime and they just went ahead and again gave vote to Zardari and made Mr.10% Mr.100% wow ! Pakistanis have really short term memory , they go with the flow and doing that they even forget what is good or bad for them. That's why we are under IMF loan again , we have electricity shortage , water shortage , food shortage ...drone attacks........ we have serious inflation and now soon we will be getting the honour of becoming 1st country in the world to impose VAT (Value added tax) on education :@:

Expect the unexpected from the people of Pakistan.

The French veil ban issue is based on totally hypocrisy nothing else. Why did nt they ban the veil before? If Europe wants to ban the veil why not do it when they had chances before? They are rsponding to it in a growing tide of Islamaphobia.

I dont agree with the veil but what if a Muslim woman wants to wear the veil - does nt this affect her rights? I can fully understand the French people wantign to ban the veil but I can also fully understand that the only reason the issue was raised in the first place was because of constant Islamaphobic media coverage.

In the West nothign is scared anymore. They have to realise that in other cultures and countries there are many things which are scared and should be respected.

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Omg, I can't believe how some pakistanis can be so stupid. opposing a guy who didn't even support the Draw Mohammed Day on Facebook?! Are you kidding me?

I didn't quit Facebook since it's just a stupid group that Pakistan has drawn its attention to and responded with violence. I didn't know anything about this until now, and its crazy. Aren't Muslims peaceful? Then what is up with all the riots going on? Have we given Islam a violent meaning?

you know what i find absolutely amazing is that PTA blocked facebook instead of porn.