The similarity of scienctific method and faith

Re: The similarity of scienctific method and faith

^ Yes that is how I feel it fits best. With the religious scripture from Abrahamic sources we can see there are stages. (Not that it was needed to but it was Chosen to be done that way), and science allows us to understand this in terms of our common terms of disposal.

The religious intent behind Sustainer is one that maintains the moment as though everything is constantly being created and destroyed like a film strip may be, except the slides are not 2D and they are much closer together in time and the scope is the whole universe. If nothing Sustained the created we would cease. Science cannot arrive at this conclusion, nor can it negate it.

As far as science is concerned one thing causes the other. Just imagine if that was not the case. We would have to supplicate for every action we wanted to take. Any way I digress.

We have given science a purpose it is for us to understand us. It is this desire to understand ourselves that gives us our purpose as an after affect according to the secular scientists point of view. In this regard science has failed humanity so far in providing a vision. So it may appear that evolution is the atheistic scientists way of expressing faith. Like religion we put Justice as a thing obtained in the Hereafter, likewise such scientists put the fathoming of complete knowledge about our existence and development of mankind as a point somewhere in the future. These are both elements of faith. So far however the atheistic evolutionists seem to feel that we are here to survive because everything else seems to try to want to do that. At least the ones I have spoken to say this, there may be others who say otherwise ... perhaps you can add a few things to this and summarise again ... wassalam for now.

Re: The similarity of scienctific method and faith

Good points. I think science cannot explain how to sustain the moment because cause and effect is time relative.

So in summary .....

1 - Both science and religion associate a purpose with our existence.

2 - Science gives our purpose as an after thought of evolution patterns and survival tactics of humans as juxtaposed with other species that live around us and alongwith us or those even extinct now.

3 - Religion defined our purpose before we were created.

4 - Science provides a vision or ambition to sharpen our survival and gives it a purpose.

5 - Religion provides a vision and criteria for how to use our survival in this world for the benefit of the next.

6 - The scientific purpose of our existence does not account for aberrations.

7 - At least from an Islamic perspective besides worshipping Allah in ritual or other forms, this world was blessed to us with the additional purpose or obligation of being vicegerents of it i.e. caretakers and this has many aspects which contradict the whole purpose being survival theory.

Please add to it. We are then on to the next point .... How do we test the hypothesis?

1 - How do we test that our purpose is to worship Allah SWT and act as vicengerents on this earth by the criteria which Allah SWT has provided us.

2 - How do we test the hypothesis that the purpose of our existence is to survive. If we were created to survive then obviously, we could conclude also that with the destruction of humanity our humanities purpose comes to an end and our personal purpose as an individual human being comes to an end with our death.

Re: The similarity of scienctific method and faith

:salam:

Waiting to carry on …