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All mah brown ppl. We need our ladies outside cricket matches too. Put these infront of MMA supports and they will willingly come to the jail where they should be beaten like old drums. Look how peaceful the guys look in the third picture?
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useless way of protest.
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Who do we blame? Who is to be punished? Who will compensate these innocent people who have lost their livelihood or property? Do some people have superior rights over other normal Pakistanis? Are the religious zealots above the law? Pakistani citizens have rights or not? Is this a nation state or hunting ground for uniformed/non-uniformed militant forces?
This is what Dawn has reported:
http://dawn.com/2006/02/15/top1.htm
LAHORE, Feb 14: Two young men were killed and 20 suffered injuries when angry mobs, protesting against publication of sacrilegious caricatures of the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him) in a number of European newspapers turned violent.
**The protesters ransacked and set on fire a number of buildings, including the Punjab Assembly, and hundreds of cars and motorcycles in the city on Tuesday.
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The shooting, which claimed the two lives, occurred on Egerton Road where a bank security guard opened fire on approaching rioters. Three youngsters suffered bullet injuries and they were rushed to the Mayo Hospital.
One of the injured youngsters died on way to the hospital and another died after first aid dressing, said Dr Tariq at the emergency ward of the hospital. The deceased were identified as Muhammad Qaisar, 22, and Muhammad Rafiq, 25. He added that 13 injured people had been taken to the hospital. Of them, five suffered bullet injuries, he said, adding that three of them were in a critical condition.
**Eyewitnesses and police said the establishments ransacked and set on fire by groups of rioters included a number of local and foreign banks, four restaurants of two American fast food chains, a Norwegian cellphone company’s office, a five-star hotel, a cinema, a theatre, a number of petrol pumps and various shops.
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Around 500 vehicles, mainly cars, were ransacked while at least 75 motorcycles and 10 cars were burnt by the protesters. All traffic signals on The Mall, Egerton Road, Hall Road, Laxmi Chowk, Bhati Chowk and some on Ferozpur Road and Multan Road were broken completely by the angry youths. Looting also took place when rioters broke into some offices and buildings, especially that of the cellphone company.
The shutdown, which was observed in other parts of the province, saw violent scenes in Faisalabad and Sargodha. Nearly three dozen people were arrested in Sargodha for trying to block traffic on the Motorway.
**In Lahore, thousands of people, including men from various religious parties and seminary students, had taken to the street on a strike call given by the Tahaffuz Namoos-i-Risalat Mahaz, a group of small Sunni parties. A seminary, Jamia Naeemia, in Garhi Shahu had been a centre of activities for the past week to make the strike a success.
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By the time the authorities called in Pakistan Rangers it was too late as the situation in the street had turned ugly. **Eyewitnesses say the police deputed along the route of the rally acted just as onlookers. **Yelling helplessly to calm down the protesters, a constable at the shooting scene where the two youngsters got bullet injuries was heard saying: “I am nobody. I do not have any of my officers around. I do not even have a wireless set to convey the situation. I am helpless.”
Later, the riot police fired teargas shells and also baton-charged the protesters at a number of places, but there was a complete lack of coordination on the part of the law-enforcement agencies and the Punjab government. The rioting continued for about six hours on various roads, while the police kept pushing the groups of rioters back, sending them in various directions. No action was taken to round up the rioters.
“They (the organizers of the protest rallies) have not honoured their commitment. They had given us the assurance that they would remain peaceful,” city police chief DIG Khwaja Khalid Farooq told Dawn, during the rioting at the Charing Cross on The Mall. “It was not possible to depute force at each and every building,” he said.
Asked why had the police not stopped the rioters initially from rampaging on, and what was the strategy given to the police by the government, he replied: “We will talk about that later.” Lahore operations police chief Aamir Zulfikar Khan, who was present there, was not in a good shape after being held hostage for 15 minutes by the rioters. He was later shifted to the Services Hospital for treatment.
Responding to the strike call, thousands of people had gathered near the shrine of the Data Ganj Bukhsh. They turned violent soon after the rally began. Lower Mall police station was the first spot that fell prey to the protesters’ anger; it was pelted with stones.
The police blocked the protesters when they attempted to storm into the district courts building. They damaged a hoarding depicting a message and a photo of President Pervez Musharraf.
The protesters then marched on to The Mall, where they ransacked an American fast food chain restaurant, a bank and burnt two vehicles. On reaching the GPO Chowk, the protesters split into groups of 20 to 50 each and began vandalising shops.
One of the groups put a hotel and a car showroom with four new cars inside on fire at the Dyal Singh Mansion near the Regal Chowk. Not far away from this scene, another group first ransacked another American fast food restaurant, two banks and the office of a Norwegian cellular phone company; later, they torched the buildings. Having three floors each, all the four buildings were reduced to ashes long before fire tenders got to the scene.
The rioters broke glasses of shops on both sides of The Mall and on reaching the Charing Cross, they vandalised the building of another bank and burnt two more vehicles.
The police resorted to teargas shelling, but the protesters attacked the Punjab Assembly building. Police deployed inside the assembly building first tried to block the rioters, but then took to their heels. The protesters entered the building and broke all windowpanes before setting a portion of the assembly building on fire. The damage caused to the building was not extensive.
The rioters damaged the glass-fitted facade of the main PIA town office.
At the next intersection on Egerton Road, the protesters broke all traffic signals and windscreens and windows of every car parked on both sides of the road. **A group marched towards the Lahore Stock Exchange and threw stones and bricks on the building. The pelting also damaged around 10 cars parked inside the building.
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Yet another American fast food restaurant became their next target. They vandalised the outlet and a bank on the first floor in the LDA Plaza. Nineteen motorcycles parked outside the food outlet were set on fire. At least 40 cars parked nearby were completely damaged by the rioters.
Another group of protesters attacked another bank near the food chain where the guard opened fire. The rioters put on fire the bank, four cars and around 21 motorcycles parked on the premises were reduced to ashes.
The vehicles of the Edhi Foundation made announcements through mega-phones, asking the people inside the commercial buildings to remain calm and start evacuating the damaged buildings. **Scores of people, including women, ran down the stairs from the bank’s building, which also housed some multi-nationals’ offices.
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The police and Pakistan Rangers later rushed to the spot, but they only pushed the rioters out in other directions without making any effort to round them up. **The protesters put an office of a travel agency on fire before dispersing.
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**Some of the rioters reached Laxmi Chowk and vandalised over 20 shops and food outlets there. They also torched a traffic police kiosk. At the Bhati Chowk, another group of rioters torched a cinema house and ransacked a theatre besides damaging several vehicles.
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Reports from other parts of the city said rioters damaged two petrol pumps and a bakery in Nawankot besides attacking vehicles on various roads.
When it was all over, District Nazim Mian Amer Mahmood and the Lahore DCO Mian Ejaz reached The Mall and inspected the damage. The police present there again baton-charged smaller groups of protesters, who had gathered there.
Till the time of the filing of this report, the police and Pakistan Rangers had been deployed in and around all important buildings in the city, mainly along The Mall and its surroundings. The police claimed having made 106 arrests.
Late at night, the Punjab IGP was presiding over a meeting to evolve a line of action. Registration of cases against the rioters was in progress.
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Peshawar again this time.
I meant that riots happened in Peshwar as well. 70,000 protestors!
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Actually that is lahore in the above post! ![]()
Btw, where is the police when you need them?
They spare to no chance to stand in the heat and humidity on roads to collect bhatta? ![]()
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^^^ Police is always there, they dont take action to until advised by authorities to allow some freedom of expression so the govt dont get blames for being brutal and oftenly its late. but these fundos with no sense are targetting Pakistani buildings withing Pakistan that provides jobs and facilities to Pakistani People. and have no connection with Denmark paper!!
NB. Roit Police is separate from Bhatta.
and are they represnting peace loving Muslims face?? or proving wests Islamaphobia?
Real shame for people who organised this, few hidden agents of govt opponents to create such scenes.
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Where are all the mau-lana lovers of GS?
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We are scummy, stupid, backward, braindead, retarted arsholes who want shooting in the head, the lot of us.
All we’re good for is blaming foreigners, everyhtings a fcuking American, Indian or Israeli conspiracy yet really it’s us who are fcukwits and our own worst enemies, gotta face the realities.
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Only in Pakistan :k:
With some of the violent scenes in a moderate country like Lebanon you could tell it was just a matter of time before pakistanis outdid everyone. Unfortunately when it comes to stupidity our people always steal the show and bring shame to Islam.
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uneducated people can turn to uncontrolable masses when they get together...pakistanese are no worse than any others
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^^ Lebanon is by far the most LIBERAL one in the Arab world. I guess you could use the term moderate for places like Jordan etc. They're all police states by the way, so all this protest stuff had to have official backing for it to have taken place.
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[FONT=Times New Roman]The demonstrations to condemn the blasphemy of our beloved Prophet PBUH turned into violent rampage in the last two three days in Lahore and else where in the country. One thing that can be said from the onset, by looking at the few clips of the coverage, is that these people, who looted shops, stole clothes and shoes were certainly not Muslims. I dread to even think of a person who has joined a procession in the love of the Holy Prophet could even think of doing things strictly forbidden by the same Prophet PBUH.
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[FONT=Times New Roman]Looking at the clips we could see that these young boys who were busy looting the shops for clothes, shoes, ice creams and food were certainly not Muslims. The way they were waving their loot to the full view of all the media cameras is simply not believeable.
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[FONT=Times New Roman]My suggestion is to run these video clips of all this looting on all the national electronic media to make people aware of whom these people are and make accountable those religious organizations that made the call for this protest. Do these religious organizations own these people? I strongly suggest to run all such media clips on the national media.
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[FONT=Times New Roman]It is my belief that those cartoons may not have hurt the Prophet PBUH as the act was committed by non believers but the very act of looting, stealing and destroying the life and property of the fellow brothers has made us really worse than those who made those cartoons. Instead of condemning those we should now pray for the forgiveness from the Prophet PBUH.
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One thing is good though. According to one of my relatives whom I talked to, most of the masses wether educated or uneducated are condemning the subversion by the protestors. They haven't liked the damage to the public property and discomfort to people. Even religious parties have distenced themselves from these acts of subversion.
Who were the mob, people are asking? Probably, "lofars", "badmassh", "charsyan, etc. had infiltrated. Other possibilities can also be not ruled out.
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You're quite right. I think the people who doing it are doing it for their personal gain (excuse to not go school/college n just chill, money for drugs, stealin goods) not out of love for the Prophet PBUH, I bet they couldn't care less for the Prophet PBUH.
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Let’s not trivilze the whole issue by blaming it on lofars. Pakistan just got shafted in the rear and you guys want to blame it on few “badmashes”. We just lost our hard work of the past many years. The hard work of convincing US companies that Pakistan is in fact a safe place. It is a safe place for KFC and it is also a safe place for GE. Not anymore. We have to start all over again.
I blame it on our educated elite including the baboos of Islamabad ministries. They should have quit any effort to make cartoon issue any bigger than what it really was “a cartoon”. Our false, criminal, and hypocritical “Islamic sensitivities” don’t ruffle a feather when heinous crimes are committed by Arabs all in the name of Islam.
However the earth will shatter, if anyone draws a cartoon, or throws some Arabic scripted papers in the street.
We the educated elite are directly responsible for inciting violence in Pakistan. We have laws on the books to encourage Mullahtic behavior. We allow “banned” terror groups to operate in our country. We allow terror leaders like “Altaf Bhai” to feast in London and provide him with a remote control for Sindh government.
We allow and accept violence against minorities such as suicide bomb attack against Shias.
This stuff is not done by Badmashes, but the news paper editors, political leaders, and government ministry officials.
Shameful indeed.
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It is known that there is same group of ppl starting the violence . last year a news paper in pakistan even printed the pictures of these same young (clean shaven ) ppl starting the violence after mufti nizam sahibs shadat and then after the killing of some shia ppl in a mosque.
Also (clean shaven ) ppl may just see these rioting from human point of view but religious ppl do see it from religoius angle too, in islam it is haram to harm the property of state or some other person , . I know more ulema then many of you, famous ones, and they always tell madressa students not to take part in these activities.
I doubt looting of bank and burning of vehicles is done by any religous ppl.
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Bao Raam! Bearded hazrat are known for double speak and your statement is just an extension of that.
Read this editorial form DT and bow your head in shame for what Mullah Naeemi and Mullah Qazi have done to my country. Own up to your kartoots if these Maulvies have any shame left. I guess not.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006\02\17\story_17-2-2006_pg3_1
Daily Times - Site Edition Friday, February 17, 2006
EDITORIAL: Ban all street protests
After the violence in Lahore on February 14, there was more looting and vandalism in Peshawar, the capital of NWFP, the following day. At least two people died in that city and scores were injured. Lahore saw more violence on February 15 in and around the Punjab University campus when the Islami Jamiat-e-Tulaba, the student wing of Jamaat-e-Islami, decided to take to the streets and become a public nuisance. The hide and seek with the law enforcement agencies led to two deaths. At least 20 people were injured.
The violence and the mode of protest are unacceptable. At Lahore and Peshawar the level of violence showed how badly local administrations in both cities “miscalculated” the consequences of allowing mobs to demonstrate. The problem is that while the Punjab government has blamed the religious elements for resorting to vandalism, the religious parties say that their cadres were not responsible and the government is accusing them to hide its own inefficiency in detecting the culprits. Who is right?
Media reports blame activists of Jamaat-e-Islami and the Jamaat ud Da’wa for instigating and perpetrating violence. At the same time there is evidence that the government of the Punjab brought out students from government schools to capture the high tide of the popular mood and signal to the people that the PMLQ is in the forefront of the protests. What happened in Lahore on February 14 and 15, however, clearly shows that the situation got out of hand.
The head of Tahaffuz-e Namoos-e Rasalat Mahaz (Front for the Protection of the Honour of the Prophet (PBUH)), Maulana Sarfraz Naeemi, is widely known as a virulent cleric. In his statements to the media Mr Naeemi denied that the violence was perpetrated by religious elements. Instead, he blamed the government for what happened. Mr Naeemi’s dissembling is well known. When Muslim mobs vandalised Christian property in Sangla Hill last November, he led a procession and said that the Christians themselves had vandalised their properties. The Jamaat amir, Qazi Hussain Ahmed, has also resorted to the same device. Last Wednesday he told the media that the government was responsible for the violence even as he hit out at the government for banning processions. But while he called the violence unfortunate, he congratulated the people, nonetheless, for voicing their sentiments so strongly.
We are amazed at this double-speak. If, as Qazi Hussain Ahmed says, the Punjab government was responsible for what happened in Lahore, we might ask him who, if not the MMA that runs the government in the NWFP, was responsible for what happened in Peshawar?
The protests have once again presented Pakistan as a country dominated by primeval passion rather than the modern logic of economic development. This will hurt the efforts by the Musharraf regime to present the country as an emerging market for foreign investment. When Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz went to Singapore last month, as part of his four-nation tour, many investors came forth with their portfolios showing interest in investing in Pakistan. But with mobs burning down foreign business franchises in Lahore and Peshawar, the prospects for investment will dim again. The risk factor is becoming prohibitively high for Pakistan.
Meanwhile, these protests seem to combine a host of factors and hidden agendas. For instance, in Peshawar, protestors gutted a hospital. When a reporter was asked by a TV anchorperson why people should have burnt down a hospital and wanted to know which hospital it was, the viewers were told that the hospital belonged to the Aga Khan Foundation. This is unfortunate because it brings in the sectarian-denominational dimension to this sorry episode. The MMA leaders, especially Qazi Hussain Ahmed, have increasingly been resorting to verbal violence against the Ismaili community. Mr Ahmed’s statements are on record and cannot be denied. Now, in the cover of these protests, some people seem to have found the opportunity to unleash their violent zealotry on a hospital run by the Foundation.
Can anything be done? Yes. And it must be done quickly. For starters, the government should disabuse itself of the notion that it can play on the clerics’ pitch and score well. It cannot. It has taken all possible measures to protest the outrage and it can follow up on them but it cannot — and must not — fall into the trap of the rightwing. It must ban all street protests and, if the religious right does not heed the directive the law should take its ruthless course. No one can be allowed to riot in Lahore or Peshawar or Faisalabad. Whatever needs be done, or can realistically be done, at the international level, has been initiated. This includes proposals to the Organisation of Islamic Conference on what the Muslim states can do collectively. Since these efforts are already afoot, there is no reason for the mobs to run amok.
The government should learn a lesson from its initial miscalculation and avoid scoring cheap brownie points. It takes many years to develop the image of a country; it requires just a roving band of miscreants to destroy it in a few minutes. The NWFP CM cannot hide his own inefficiency by asking Islamabad to pay compensation to the people whose assets have been destroyed. Similarly, when traders in Lahore demand that the government compensate them, they should remember that the religious right is a menace that many elements within the traders’ community fund. We need to begin to untangle the web of mixed up categories and priorities.
Finally, the PMLQ should cancel any planned demonstrations relating to this issue. If it doesn’t, it will confirm the impression that it is hand in glove with the mullahs to fuel the fire. And that can only hurt the image of Pakistan and General Pervez Musharraf internationally. *
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http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/HB17Df01.html
Renowned journalist and television anchor Talat Hussain also raised the issue in relation to the capital, Islamabad, where college students staged a rally that turned violent as they rampaged near the high-security diplomatic enclave. Talat pointed out that even on ordinary days it is virtually impossible to get near the zone. Yet 6,000 students (a massive number by Islamabad standards) managed to approach the enclave, and even breach its security in some places.
The Muttahida Majlis-i-Amal, a six-party religious alliance, has called for a countrywide strike on March 3 and a million-person rally on March 5 in Karachi. However, the situation might escalate before that, as little-known organizations at the district level have already given calls for rallies and strikes, and the masses are responding to them.
I think Bao Bihari is right.
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But youthful discontent alone cannot be blamed, religious leaders and other analysts are quick to point out. Both on and off the record, many say the involvement of state intelligence agencies in fomenting the violence cannot be discounted. The current administration, some argue, is trying to spread panic about religious extremists in a bid to hold on to power.
"Maybe [President Pervez] Musharraf is trying to create a situation where he says to [US President George] Bush, 'Look, I'm sitting on dynamite with these mullahs and I'm the only one who can contain them,' " says Zarafullah Khan, director of the Center for Civic Education in Islamabad.
There is no proof of such activity, but observers say a weak police response is suggestive of state approval. The police in Lahore have been widely criticized for their failure to quell the violence, with many saying police did little to intervene. Mian Ameer Mahmood, the district nazim of Lahore, roughly equivalent to a mayor, denied the accusations: "I am on the record that police were not present at the time when people were burning buildings."
Such a tepid response contrasts sharply with last month's controversial marathon in Lahore, observers say, where thousands of police were deployed to prevent disruptions. It also contrasts with reports of armed troops stationed on rooftops and roadsides of Karachi Thursday, where 50,000 demonstrators rallied peacefully against the cartoons.
source:
Yahoo.com