There is difference between laws of moral behaviour and absolutes of physics. Laws can and should be changed to fit the times, they aren't universal concepts such as gravity...
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*Originally posted by Matsui: *
There is difference between laws of moral behaviour and absolutes of physics. Laws can and should be changed to fit the times, they aren't universal concepts such as gravity...
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Our religion equips us with a road sign post (dos and don’t dos) or a compass. This sign post never changes and always points to the same direction (and always will) to guide us through our lives. So it’s absolute just like the laws of physics. Those who follow it will reach their ‘destination’.
By saying that “Laws can and should be changed to fit the times” You seem to be suggesting that one should have weather vane as a guide post. In other words follow where the wind blows.
Now, tell me who seems to be the lost one, the one with a compass in hand following the sign post or the one following the whims of the wind?
This reminds of something I read in Reader’s Digest some time back, in ‘Life’s like that’ section.
A lady was traveling first class from London to New York. When she boarded the plane she was ushered to her seat next to an Indian gentleman. Since this Indian was dressed up in traditional attire ( dhoti and Indian skullcap) and a large saffron ‘beauty spot’ on his forehead, she presumed that he must not be speaking any English so she just nodded as way of greetings and the Indian nodded back with a welcoming smile.
When the plane was in the air the air-hostesses started passing around the lunch menus. The lady filled in what she fancied for lunch and handed back her order and she couldn’t help noticing that the Indian gentleman had opt for a beef steak for lunch.
The next few minutes she debated within herself with some predicament that if would be wise to ‘warn’ this gentleman of his mistake.
Just as the Indian very professionally cut into the beef steak and was about to take it in, she blurt out, “Please don’t, this is beef”. The Indian gentleman a bit startled then in complete control spoke in immaculate English saying, “I know my dear, these cows are from here only the cows from India are holy and are my mothers.”
During later conversation it turned out that this Indian was a Bramin holy man visiting New York to grace some religious function.
^ that is a sweet tale dear Ibn bhaijaan. tHe gentleman on the plane is right. Religion is between him and god, not for the stewerdess or anyone else to determine.
Having signposts or weathervanes is a good analogy. Signposts are rigid, they point to a direction but don't tell you that you should take the 7 train frm Grandcentral only on tuesdays with rain in the forecast and afer having a scotch and soda. Legislating minutia of life through religious edicts assumes everyone's relationship with god is the same and their capabilities and facilities and station in life is the same. Such rigid methodologies of practice are meant for people who are highly illiterate, don;t have a modicum of logical reasoning ability and culture of disrepute.
Weathervane's are better than signpost because human capabilities and facilities and the environment around them is constantly changing. I would like to believe that most muslims, just like most hindus, jews, buddhists are following the weatherwane, rather than a signpost.
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*Originally posted by Matsui: *
^ that is a sweet tale dear Ibn bhaijaan. tHe gentleman on the plane is right. Religion is between him and god, not for the stewerdess or anyone else to determine.
Having signposts or weathervanes is a good analogy. Signposts are rigid, they point to a direction but don't tell you that you should take the 7 train frm Grandcentral only on tuesdays with rain in the forecast and afer having a scotch and soda. Legislating minutia of life through religious edicts assumes everyone's relationship with god is the same and their capabilities and facilities and station in life is the same. Such rigid methodologies of practice are meant for people who are highly illiterate, don;t have a modicum of logical reasoning ability and culture of disrepute.
Weathervane's are better than signpost because human capabilities and facilities and the environment around them is constantly changing. I would like to believe that most muslims, just like most hindus, jews, buddhists are following the weatherwane, rather than a signpost.
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No wonder that the weather vane followers are scattered like straw when the life hits the storm of high winds. Weather vane itself will be turning around like mad. It cannot itself point to any direction.
Sorry, Muslims are not weather vane followers. Stick to signposts and you will surely get there.
haha Muslims, hindus, Jews alll follow the "signpost". Muhammad (SAW), Gandhi. Conformity leads to spirituality. You cross the boundary when ur spiritual, only a law can set that boundary. So..law comes first. Laws that apply to everything, not just u, not just me, not just physics, but everything. They set an outline, a guideline for the general human race, the gray areas would be referred to as "spirituality". People are constantly changing, constantly adjusting to these laws. (hahah)
Laws are universal. Such as gravity...spirituality is not. Each person has their own brain and assessment of spirituality.
People (haha) are not (haha) the only ones (haha) changing...the laws themselves change.