The Return of the Sharif?

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*Originally posted by Bhadsha: *

your don't sound like a person whose dissilusioned just someone trying to spread disharmony. WEll also a kind of a hyprocryte since it seems by your standard it is ok for the Israeli to supress others and do the stuff you talk against.
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Don't talk to me about Israel. Your army has killed mroe muslims then Israel

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*Originally posted by Imdad Ali: *

First of all there was no local police ever in karachi. They were all shipped from villages in punjab and ran back as quickly as they came. That's why army was called and had to withdraw after accepting that MQM was their to stay. Today, rangers and police officals have to say salaam to MQM politicians when they come to karachi. These are facts.
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I bet you have a direct line to the thug in London, Such BS can only come from him...

Why is it BS?

^Read this one word at a time and stop right where it don’t penetrate… Then ask..

Here one more time..

Why should i believe this one single article you keep putting up everytime? Guess what, that article is not completely true. Only true part in it is this.

“Just what shape such a solution might take is less easy to say. Most analysts concur that the MQM still retains broad electoral support in urban Sind. Government heavy-handedness targeted at the Mohajirs has arguably reinforced that base. And while many Mohajirs may be sick of MQM strike calls and disruptive politics, electorally they have nowhere else to go. Neither the opposition Pakistan Muslim League of Nawaz Sharif nor the religious Jamaat-i-Islami have gained their trust.”

You keep on harping on the same ol BS over and over, like beat around the bush… BUT fail to comprehend the fact that security forces destroyed terrorism in Karachi by killing cockroaches dozen at a time, for that I salute them. I am from Karachi and I know what scums where doing in my city… most lowlives were wiped out few escaped but for how long… The top ba$tard slim ball in London is rendered useless. He has realised there is no way the scum can win by terrorism. But mark my words the day the scums raise their ugly head LEA will not hesitate to send the scums to hell just like in the past

Here try (FAS) Federation of American Scientest for a change.
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/yearwise_detail_mqm.htm

That article posted on FAS.org, was published by ISI propoganda dept. Nice try.

^ hahahaha FAS has now become ISI propoganda site LOL.... And I am Bill Clintons daddy..... And Asia week must be owned by the big bad paki army...... U screwed like MQM!! its better for you to go back where you belong... I know a nice place in India its called Gujarat where you can enjoy the fruits of your country men.

Right..

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So all these individuals are on ISI payroll? Imdad, seriously, get a grip!

Are you guys really so clueless?

Look at this webpage and read the title of the article under "Government of Pakistan documents - August 1999 ".

Get it now or still need some help? FAS.org and global security don’t write these things. They copy paste information from whoever sends it their way.

http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/mqm.htm

Just reading tells someone of sane mind that it is an ISI propoganda piece.

^ You are helpless, no point wasting bandwidth.

So you admit it was a document written by government of pakistan?

^ You also have a severe comprehension problem!

Maj-Gen Naseerullah Babar deserves a lot of credit for getting rid of the MQM thugs in Karachi in 1995. That was simply by using Police and Rangers!

My God - Karachi was hell at that time. I remember we used to go out only in groups to prevent our car from being stolen or people being kidnapped by the "students." Guys, Al Qaida - Al Faida could not cause more havoc than the MQM thugs did at that time. Babar has done a lot of bad things, but by God he did good by Karachi. MQM hasn't been the same since then - Good Riddance!

Now, after that success, the ISI went too far with their Haqiqi proteges. Hell, everything the ISI touched within Pakistan has brought nothing but death and destruction, but that's not Babar's fault.

I consider PML-Q more of an oppertunists party, a king's party. The masses of punjab likely don't support it that much.

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*Originally posted by Imdad Ali: *
I consider PML-Q more of an oppertunists party, a king's party. The masses of punjab likely don't support it that much.
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And you must be the National Expert on political affairs to make such a statement?