Interesting!!
2) CIA has failed to get into Al-Qaida or Taliban or Afghanistan, so they are shifting the war to Pakistan and making it as failure of Pakistan and not their own.
That appears to be the real case.
in this day and age, we still have intelligent people that believe in such a thing as "al qaida"
Only a non Arab and non muslim can think of this name "Al-qaida" for an islamic group.
The story goes like this, a CIA person asked his muslim friend "what do you guys do in madrassahs", he replied "in madrassahs we read al-qaida". And then the CIA person thought that's it, we gonna name it Al-Qaida.
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Its hard to believe that people still believe in these conspiracy theories especially when OBL & Zawahri are putting out video tapes every few moths & have declared war on Pakistan. When suicide bombers are going off in front of our eyes targeting everybody they can kill, yet we refused to believe it...
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^^ Why These Top brass of Al-Qaida is against Pakistan?
only answer i can come up with is, they are doing what their masters are ordering them to do!!!
DESTROY PAKISTAN or atleast de-stablize Pakistan
Its hard to believe that people still believe in these conspiracy theories especially when OBL & Zawahri are putting out video tapes every few moths & have declared war on Pakistan. When suicide bombers are going off in front of our eyes targeting everybody they can kill, yet we refused to believe it...
I think some people don't want to blindly believe in everything they see on tv or everything they read in newspapers, and they have a right for it.
Media show us all the killings done by suicide bombers but do they show us the reasons and factors behind those killings? No
Do they show us the killings done by American troops in Iraq, Afghanistan and now in Pakistan? No
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There's a war going on in a part of Pakistan but media wants us to believe that everything is at peace, only those people living in FATA are evil and if we take them out everything will be fine.
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^^ If u mean Pakistani Media, then you are wrong, Pakistani Media is giving all possible news clips/briefs about the operation and attacks by Pak-Army and US Led Forces.
the point of matter is why these so-called taliban is against Pakistan? who is financing them to buy weapons???
more importantly, how weapons are supplied, CIA is their, NATO is their, American Forces are their, how come these terrorists are operating their network? funds transfer? weapons supply?
^^ If u mean Pakistani Media, then you are wrong, Pakistani Media is giving all possible news clips/briefs about the operation and attacks by Pak-Army and US Led Forces.
the point of matter is why these so-called taliban is against Pakistan? who is financing them to buy weapons???
more importantly, how weapons are supplied, CIA is their, NATO is their, American Forces are their, how come these terrorists are operating their network? funds transfer? weapons supply?
You forgot 50 offices of FBI.
The media probably tells you about operations and attacks by the army as when and where they are doing it but do they tell you how many women and kids have been killed by Paki and American troops, do they actually show the corpses and wouded people and all the bloodshed done by the army like they show when there's a bomb blast in a city of Pakistan? I don't think so.
You forgot 50 offices of FBI. The media probably tells you about operations and attacks by the army as when and where they are doing it but do they tell you how many women and kids have been killed by Paki and American troops, do they actually show the corpses and wouded people and all the bloodshed done by the army like they show when there's a bomb blast in a city of Pakistan? I don't think so.
The other day on Geo's Program Capital Talk, the host Hamid Mir and guests where talking about the casualities of this war on terror. They did bring out on of the victums of this war, and yes i agree that these channels never show the dead bodies but they do show the number of dead ones either in FATA area or in other areas targetted by these terrorsits.
I have no idea about 50 FBI offices, but i do know about 14 Indian Consulates on Pak-Afghan border. I do know about Indian Troops stationed somewhere near Jalalabad. I guess this information is enough to give an idea that who is behind the whole scene.
You forgot 50 offices of FBI.
What's suspicious about that? The FBI is a police force, equivalent to Pakistan's FIA. It is not an intelligence agency.
If there were 50 CIA offices, then I'd be worried. The FBI is a regular law enforcement agency - it is the only law enforcement agency that is allowed to operate in all of the states of the USA; whereas individual police forces can only operate within the boundaries of each state in the USA.
If Pakistan asked for help with police investigations into terrorism from the USA, such as applying the latest investigative methods and technologies, the FBI is the only agency in the USA with that expertise.
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why india would bother stationing in Afganistan? we have enough problems at our own homeland.
Whether it's india or pakistant people should know that terrorists can't attack by themselves someone from inside is helping them out. In case of delhi/jaipur/gujrat it was Indian Mujhahiddin + islamic extrimist... try to find out similar organization at your end.
Cleaning own home first should be priority of both governments.
the point of matter is why these so-called taliban is against Pakistan? who is financing them to buy weapons???
more importantly, how weapons are supplied, CIA is their, NATO is their, American Forces are their, how come these terrorists are operating their network? funds transfer? weapons supply?
Let me think why the Taliban is against Pakistan.
1) Pakistan turned on the Afghan Taliban in 2001 after deciding supporting them was no longer in the national interest
2) Pakistan is trying to prevent the Taliban from waging what the Taliban believe is a jihad against the Americans, meaning that to the Taliban Pakistan is aligning with non-Muslims against Muslims.
3) Pakistan is trying to prevent the Pakistani Taliban from running their own state in the FATA
4) In trying to prevent Pakistani soil being used as a base for anti-Afghan attacks, Pakistan is fighting the Taliban. Usually people turn against those who are fighting them.
5) Pakistan has identified groups based in the FATA as being behind several bombings; the Taliban do not permit Pakistan investigative agencies to operate in areas under their control so to bring the perpetrators to justice government control needs to be established in those areas, which means fighting to defeat the Taliban. As before, once you start fighting someone they usually turn against you.
The FATA has a relatively open border with Pakistan and Afghanistan, due to the difficulty of policing it and the problem of smuggling. Weapons are easily available on the black market due to governments commonly selling unneeded weapons to independent arms brokers, or to smuggling. For example, machine guns looted in Albania by the mafia were sold to arms dealers to sold them to Rwanda (where they were used in the Civil War) who then sold them to the DRC. It's estimate that each year, $1bn worth of weapons enters the black market where they are available to anyone with money.
As for money - I'm not going to bother with the drug allegation, but news reports from the Pakistan press over recent years have made it clear that the Taliban tax residents and merchants in the areas under their control. There's a steady source of revenue directly for you.
Actually India in known to have at least 1000 soldiers in Afghanistan to protect Indian interests there. These operate independently of the ISAF coalition forces, demonstrating that they are there on India’s own agenda rather than as part of the UN-authorised stabilisation effort in Afghanistan.
The question arises that what is India planning to do in Afghanistan which means it must maintain a separate armed body that’s not part of the international coalition? Does India have its own agenda that it is unwilling to share with the international community?
The Corner on National Review Online
In fact there are at least 1,000 Indian paramilitary soldiers of the ‘Indo-Tibetan Border Police’ and the ‘Border Roads Organization’ — an adjunct to the Indian military similar to the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers — operating in Afghanistan.
These forces are not part of NATO/ISAF and have little or no contact with NATO or U.S. commands. Their official mission is the protection of Indian construction teams and businesses, India being one of the larger aid donors and investors in Afghanistan, up there with Iran. Two Indian contractors have been abducted and beheaded by militants in the last two years.
What's suspicious about that? The FBI is a police force, equivalent to Pakistan's FIA. It is not an intelligence agency.
If there were 50 CIA offices, then I'd be worried. The FBI is a regular law enforcement agency - it is the only law enforcement agency that is allowed to operate in all of the states of the USA; whereas individual police forces can only operate within the boundaries of each state in the USA.
If Pakistan asked for help with police investigations into terrorism from the USA, such as applying the latest investigative methods and technologies, the FBI is the only agency in the USA with that expertise.
Knowing that FBI has abducted and tortured people in Pakistan, you are still saying that what is suspicious about it.
Knowing that FBI has abducted and tortured people in Pakistan, you are still saying that what is suspicious about it.
I know that the Pakistani police abduct and torture people in Pakistan, I know that ISI have abducted and tortured people in Pakistan.... but provide me with a story from the mainstream Pakistani press that alleges the FBI have done so themselves? All the stories of FBI activity in the main Pakistan press have only alleged that the FBI were present when Pakistani agencies were carrying out unsavory acts... which they tend to do anyway regardless of FBI presence, and government. Extrajudicial actions against the MQM under the PPP, against PPP members under the PML, against suspected terrorists under Musharraf... it's normal in Pakistan.
It is odd that you remain suspicious of it, and yet Pakistan’s government does not. Note that this is a different government that not only was opposed to the govermnent that invited the FBI to set up offices in Pakistan, but overthrew and humiliated that government too.
Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan
LAHORE: The initial investigation report of the Marriott Hotel suicide bombing will be ready soon and the government will seek the assistance of the Federal Bureau of Investigation if the need arose, Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani said on Sunday.
I think some people don't want to blindly believe in everything they see on tv or everything they read in newspapers, and they have a right for it. Media show us all the killings done by suicide bombers but do they show us the reasons and factors behind those killings? No Do they show us the killings done by American troops in Iraq, Afghanistan and now in Pakistan? No
please enlighten all of us by telling why US wants to destroy pakistan? What is the advantage US will get?
Does pakistan has OIL?
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its all messy, many players are active in Pakistan so people dont get the real picture who is doing what.
certainly India RAW terrorists are active, not many taliban will be happy to blow innocent people in Pakistan, but it all end up slapped on taliban/alqaeda, CIA want to carry out such attacks create the impression that Pakistan is capable of controlling these elements and pressurise Pakistan to take action against own people and end up getting all the negetive from local population hence providing easy access to revenge seekers to be recruited by all these actors.
Pakistan need to take control and root out these proteges of RAW CIA, and Afghan intelligence(if they have one).
This article might be a bit over the top, but it does point generally in the direction of truth i.e. something bigger (and unseen) is at play here
The original poster forgot to mention that the article is written by **Zaid Hamid **who has become quite a celebrity on current affairs commentary in Pakistan. His program "Brass Tacks" has gained quite a following as I have been hearing.
Not surprising. I was wondering what kind of lunatic mind can come up with so many outlandish conspiracy theories in one article without citing a single source. Zaid Hamid is a prime example of a lunatic mind.
please enlighten all of us by telling why US wants to destroy pakistan? What is the advantage US will get?
Does pakistan has OIL?
It has nukes which are growing...And US don't like that for obvious reasons...