The Quran re-written?

Challenging the Qur’an

A German scholar contends that the Islamic text has been mistranscribed and promises raisins, not virgins Newsweek International, By Stefan Theil, NEWSWEEK INTERNATIONAL

In a note of encouragement to his fellow hijackers, September 11 ringleader Muhammad Atta cheered their impending “marriage in Paradise” to the 72 wide-eyed virgins the Qur’an promises to the departed faithful. Palestinian newspapers have been known to describe the death of a suicide bomber as a “wedding to the black-eyed in eternal Paradise.” But if a German expert on Middle Eastern languages is correct, these hopes of sexual reward in the afterlife are based on a terrible misunderstanding.

Arguing that today’s version of the Qur’an has been mistranscribed from the original text, scholar Christoph Luxenberg says that what are described as “houris” with “swelling breasts” refer to nothing more than “white raisins” and “juicy fruits.”

Luxenberg-a pseudonym-is one of a small but growing group of scholars, most of them working in non-Muslim countries, studying the language and history of the Qur’an. When his new book is published this fall, it’s likely to be the most far-reaching scholarly commentary on the Qur’an’s early genesis, taking this infant discipline far into uncharted-and highly controversial-territory. That’s because Islamic orthodoxy considers the holy book to be the verbatim revelation of Allah, speaking to his prophet, Muhammad, through the Angel Gabriel, in Arabic. Therefore, critical study of God’s undiluted word has been off-limits in much of the Islamic world. (For the same reason, translations of the Qur’an are never considered authentic.) Islamic scholars who have dared ignore this taboo have often found themselves labeled heretics and targeted with death threats and violence. Luxenberg, a professor of Semitic languages at one of Germany’s leading universities, has chosen to remain anonymous because he fears a fatwa by enraged Islamic extremists.

Luxenberg’s chief hypothesis is that the original language of the Qur’an was not Arabic but something closer to Aramaic. He says the copy of the Qur’an used today is a mistranscription of the original text from Muhammad’s time, which according to Islamic tradition was destroyed by the third caliph, Osman, in the seventh century. But Arabic did not turn up as a written language until 150 years after Muhammad’s death, and most learned Arabs at that time spoke a version of Aramaic. Rereading the Paradise passage in Aramaic, the mysterious houris turn into raisins and fruit-much more common components of the Paradise myth.

The forthcoming book contains plenty of other bombshells. It claims that the Qur’an’s commandment for women to cover themselves is based on a similar misreading; in Sura 24, the verse that calls for women to “snap their scarves over their bags” becomes in Aramaic “snap their belts around their waists.” Even more explosive are readings that strengthen scholars’ views that the Qur’an had Christian origins. Sura 33 calls Muhammad the “seal of the prophets,” taken to mean the final and ultimate prophet of God. But an Aramaic reading, says Luxenberg, turns Muhammad into a “witness of the prophets”-i.e., someone who bears witness to the established Judeo-Christian texts. The Qur’an, in Arabic, talks about the “revelation” of Allah, but in Aramaic that term turns into “teaching” of the ancient Scriptures. The original Qur’an, Luxenberg contends, was in fact a Christian liturgical document-before an expanding Arab empire turned Muhammad’s teachings into the basis for its new religion long after the Prophet’s death.

Such interpretations will undoubtedly draw the ire of many Muslims-and not just extremists. After all, revisionist scholars have been persecuted for much less; in 2001, Egypt’s Constitutional Court confirmed the “apostasy” of former University of Cairo scholar Nasr Hamid Abu-Zayd, for considering the Qur’an a document written by humans.

Still, Luxenberg may be ushering in a whole new era of Qur’anic study. “Luxenberg’s findings are very relevant and convincing,” says Mondher Sfar, a Tunisian specialist on the historic origins of the Qur’an in exile in Paris. “They make possible a new interpretation of the Qur’an.” In the West, questioning the literal veracity of the Bible was a crucial step in breaking the church’s grip on power-and in developing a modern, secular society. That experience, as much as the questioning itself, is no doubt what concerns conservative Muslims as they struggle over the meaning and influence of Islam in the 21st century. But if Luxenberg’s work is any indication, the questioning is just getting underway.

http://www.religionnewsblog.com/archives/00003797.html

This is certainly the first I’ve heard of this gentleman and his translation, what do more learned members than myself make of it?

People like him will keep coming. I seriously doubt his sincerity and it feels as if he wants to 'unleash this bombshell' as a quick way to earn some popularity or self satisfaction of some sort.

btw, i havent' come across this magic number of 72 anywhere as of yet. Where really is it from?

Also, reading Surah Rahman might help him get rid of this idiotic belief that it is actually referring to raisins.

amazing stuff… people who originally received the revelations (spell?) didn’t know about that, and now we have exports popping out of everywhere telling an all different meaning. :hehe:

Imagine an award of 72 raisins for fighting a war against enemy and loosing your life for it :rotfl: I would like to know drinking habits of this guy and funding sources.

Imagine God giving any type of reward (carnal or otherwise) for blowing up yourself and as many innocent bystanders as you can. Whether or not this article and its theories are a bunch of baloney, I don't know. But this excerpt is true: *"In the West, questioning the literal veracity of the Bible was a crucial step in breaking the church's grip on power-and in developing a modern, secular society." *

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sorry to disappoint u seminole, but i dont think that muslims can ever be freed from the grip of Islam, because unlike the christians, muslims r not governed by any individual (=pope) or any institution (=church) but rather by Allah, the God Almighty Himself....

and freeing someone ffrom His grip is just simply not possible....

as to the writeer of the article, i wonder how much of arabic has he learnt (from divine inspiration assumingly) that his arabic (most likely muslim) teachers had never knows of....

Armughal, those who interpret Islam's teachings are done so by man and they vary greatly, so in actuality Muslims are governed by man through these interpretations.

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Raisins?...Geez louise.

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Armughal, those who interpret Islam's teachings are done so by man and they vary greatly, so in actuality Muslims are governed by man through these interpretations.
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The Koran is to be interpreted in light of the teachings of the last Prophet (sallallaho alaihe wassallam), according to the understanding of his rightly guided successors and his other disciples, when this is done the Koran is clear cut, Muslims are obliged to obey them weather they suit their whims and desires or not.

It’s only the misguided that want to follow their own fancies, they leave the Prophet (sallallaho alaihe wassallam)’s teachings aside so that they can interpret and twist the Koranic interpretation to suit their desires, and these people are not really true followers.

Only from Newsweek can we expect detailed and honest reporting...So what the 'scholar' is saying, is true...How can we doubt Newsweek?

It's a different thing we don't know who the doctor is, and for those willing to believe, it's a strong enough criteria and for believers, well, they never care what anyone says about Quran anyways...

So believe whatever you want...Newsweek being published by a Jew, gives it as much credibility as Santa Clause...They always spread whatever is anti-Islamic...First to say Saddam was guilty, first to say he had WMDs, first to say Taliban are behind the 9/11, first to print Osama's 'real' tape where he discusses 9/11...

So many lies...The name of Newsweek should be...'Lies for this week for you to believe in'...:D

^ so this is a newsweek conspiracy to terminate jihad? if the deal is just grapes why would any insane braindead blow himself up? and that would end the recruitment.

The Quran states:
' He (God) begotheth not nor is he begotten'

which any one with any knowledge of anything will know this is as far removed from the teaching of christianity as possible. A christian document indeed?!!

Interested readers should look at
The history of The Quranic Text by M.M. Al-Azami. This is an awesome peice of work and a real eyeopener into the rigourous scientifc way the Quran has been preserved.

M.M. Al - Aazmi has been visiting fellow at Oxford university, professor of Islamic Studies at Princeton, more importantly he is a world renowned scholar of Hadees. In his book he takes all the orienalist argument and destroys them, he also does an analysis of the authencity of the New and Old testament.

What a bunch of BS! plus a true muslim doesn't really care weather he's getting raisains or virgins for getting shaheed. it is said that a true shaheed's wish is to get shaheed, live again and than get shaheed again, and again, and again, and again. because they find pleasure in sacrifising their life for Allah, since they love him so much, not cause they want some virgins or raisains. look at me, i'm a girl, correct me if i'm wrong but i don't think i get ne man in paradise for getting shaheed, but i still pray every night that i get the honor to die for Allah. idiots like this one just make my faith stronger. people like him should just change religions, cuz they sure can't change the religion itself no matter how hard they try. the whole beauty of Islam is sacrifise, it's the ultimate war of the soul and the body, it's the ultimate challange, and if one can't accept that than they r not accepted by Allah, what's the fun in changing the challenge to fit ur needs? it's no longer a challange. Quran is preserved in the hearts of a hafiz, doesn't matter how many papers ne Osman burns, the Quran will live in every heart beat of every hafiz until qayamat. doesn't he understand such a basic concept. thats why we say Quran can't be changed. so what if he burned the original copy he didn't burn the people who had memorized it, they can just make another one dammit. i can't stand these idiotic theories based idiot facts.

quran is the word of god i.e allah subhana wa tallah there r no if's and but's about it full stop........... this just propganda. real beliuvers should pay no attention to this publicity stunt made by this german dude

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*quran is the word of god i.e allah subhana wa tallah there r no if's and but's about it full stop........... this just propganda. real beliuvers should pay no attention to this publicity stunt made by this german dude

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I totally agree wit that. It is generally known that the Quran is protected by Allah, for it cannot be changed in any way.