The power of Healing?

[gul-e-bakauli]

How is the power of physical healing described and subscribed in Islam? Does Islam have a system of getting healed for diseases like Arthritis, HIV, and Hepatitis A/B etc instantly through some means? How is the healing of Sufism different from the healing power of Catholics or Christians? In essence, they are both healing of the physical body. Do we have some people who have hard core experience on this

[TLK]

Re: The power of Healing?

Are you talking about healing through Tawakkul, only? Which means, dont worry about it and just have faith on Allah, if he has healing in your fate, you will get healed.

Or are you talking about believe that Allah is Shaafi. That is, taking medications and having a belief that only Allah (SWT) has this Qudrat to put shifa in this medicine (or medical procedure) for me.

Islam believes on the second concept and not the firts one.

I dont know, what do you mean by healing of sufism.

[gul-e-bakauli]

Re: The power of Healing?

Tariq:
I definitely don’t mean the first option. In my opinion that would be like sitting under the berry tree and having faith that one day it will fall in your open mouth!
And I don't mean the second one to most extend. I want to know if there is active resolution of curing a disease in Islam MINUS today's scientific medication.
Are there ways of curing diseases through spiritual means? Something that sufies might have more knowledge about.

[TLK]

Re: The power of Healing?

Dua, wazeefa, sadaqa, Namaz-e-hajat, even Taweez. These are all spritual and well accepted means of getting rid of Takaaleef and Masaa'eb (including diseases) in Islam. Most (maybe all) Ulemas have agreement on it that they work (if Allah wants them to work).

But in conjucntion to that, Islam also belives that if a worldy cure and prevention methods are also availaibe, they should also be applied.

Curing medical diseases purely through spritual means, although known causes, symptoms and cure has been identified by medical science?? I dont know if it exist in its pure form.

I know of cases, though, where doctors said that you have few months to live and the patient lived for years cause of their spritual belief that only Allah/God can decide our fate and not doctors.

[worshipme]

Re: The power of Healing?

Islam had the same healing power as Christianity. Which is, in effect, none.

[Submission_To_Peace]

Re: The power of Healing?

Though I haven’t heard of any specific way of treating the diseases you mentioned, but I do know that there were minor acts and habbits that used to contribute alot in protecting/ treating alot of diseases, some of which science also proves today. BUT most of them were not followed with an intention of treating a “specific” disease but for he obedience of the Prophet (saw), which automatically served as treatment. Like a priest accepting ISlam after seeing that his poison didn’t effect Hazrat Khalid bin Waleed (r.a) might be due to one of the following reasons.

1. Faith healing: is something science says is totally related to your faith in something. If you have a “very strong” faith in “anything” which you do, it might help you the way you want it to help you, if it is something good e.g. for a muslim practicing namaz, doing any wazeefa…etc.

2. A Hadith says " If you want to have more Rizq and a long life, than be good with your relatives"
   In the present age the scientific proof of it is here:

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=250109

3. To practice the ways of the Prophet (Saw) helps alot. Like leaving meal when a “bit” of hunger is left. To drink water in the beginning of the meal and not in the end. to lick the tip of one’s finger after finishing meal, to recite the duas the Prophet (saw) usually recited in daily life, to follow other sunnahs like miswak…etc.

4. As Tariq brother said if you have “complelte” believe in the “Shifa” to be from Allah, and if you make all your level best efforts on the “basis” of this belief, than Allah would make available sources which would cause cure of your problem/disease (insha’Allah) one way or the other.

[gul-e-bakauli]

Re: The power of Healing?

What do u mean by that?

@worshipme

Islam had the same healing power as Christianity. Which is, in effect, none.

[gul-e-bakauli]

Re: The power of Healing?

Thanks for your input submissionToPeace. All that you mentioned below are good and healthy practices but not necessarily means of curing a disease. I guess I find myself blank in explaining how spirit healing can be possible in other religions but in Islam - that is if it’s true. What possible explanation can there be in the light of Islam for instances of spiritual miracles in other religions in today’s world?

@Submission_To_Peace

Though I haven’t heard of any specific way of treating the diseases you mentioned, but I do know that there were minor acts and habbits that used to contribute alot in protecting/ treating alot of diseases, some of which science also proves today. BUT most of them were not followed with an intention of treating a “specific” disease but for he obedience of the Prophet (saw), which automatically served as treatment. Like a priest accepting ISlam after seeing that his poison didn’t effect Hazrat Khalid bin Waleed (r.a) might be due to one of the following reasons.

1. Faith healing: is something science says is totally related to your faith in something. If you have a “very strong” faith in “anything” which you do, it might help you the way you want it to help you, if it is something good e.g. for a muslim practicing namaz, doing any wazeefa…etc.

2. A Hadith says " If you want to have more Rizq and a long life, than be good with your relatives"
   In the present age the scientific proof of it is here:

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=250109

3. To practice the ways of the Prophet (Saw) helps alot. Like leaving meal when a “bit” of hunger is left. To drink water in the beginning of the meal and not in the end. to lick the tip of one’s finger after finishing meal, to recite the duas the Prophet (saw) usually recited in daily life, to follow other sunnahs like miswak…etc.

4. As Tariq brother said if you have “complelte” believe in the “Shifa” to be from Allah, and if you make all your level best efforts on the “basis” of this belief, than Allah would make available sources which would cause cure of your problem/disease (insha’Allah) one way or the other.

[malhot]

Re: The power of Healing?

Faith in Allah/Jesus/Buddha/Bhagwan - does help in the healing process.

Even Doctors know the importance of this, and always stress 'have faith in God', for they know they can only do so much - the rest is up to God.

[Captain1]

Re: The power of Healing?

@gul-e-bakauli

Thanks for your input submissionToPeace. All that you mentioned below are good and healthy practices but not necessarily means of curing a disease. I guess I find myself blank in explaining how spirit healing can be possible in other religions but in Islam - that is if it’s true. What possible explanation can there be in the light of Islam for instances of spiritual miracles in other religions in today’s world?

what do you mean by that? are you saying 'healing' of physical body performed spiritually?

[gul-e-bakauli]

Re: The power of Healing?

Yes.

@Captain1

what do you mean by that? are you saying 'healing' of physical body performed spiritually?

[gul-e-bakauli]

Re: The power of Healing?

Right.. The only problem with that is that people from different faith can perform healings. Not very common in Islam though. What do Islamic scholars and Imam have to say about this? So, if only the faith in the right religion and God can perform the healings then 1) why there is no practice of healings through spiritual means in Islam or is there? 2) Only the right faith should be able to perform these practices hence people from other religions should not be able to do so, but they do.

Faith in Allah/Jesus/Buddha/Bhagwan - does help in the healing process.

Even Doctors know the importance of this, and always stress 'have faith in God', for they know they can only do so much - the rest is up to God.

[Cheegum]

Re: The power of Healing?

I read this article just yesterday. I think it is somewhat related to this topic.

http://www.thewaytotruth.org/metaphysicaldimension/jinn_influence.html

Do jinn cause certain illnesses?

Jinn can penetrate a body even deeper than X-rays. They can reach into a being’s veins and the central points of the brain. They seem to be like lasers, which are used in everything from computers to nuclear weaponry, from medicine to communication and police investigations, and to removing obstructions in our veins and arteries. So, when we consider that Satan and all jinn are created from smokeless fire that penetrates deep into the body, like radiation or radioactive energy, we can understand the meaning of the Prophetic Tradition: Satan moves where the blood moves.

Jinn can harm the body and cause physical and psychological illnesses. It might be a good idea for medical authorities to consider whether jinn cause certain types of cancer, since cancer is an unordered and diseased growth in the body that we describe as a kind of cellular anarchy. Maybe some jinn have settled in that part of the body and are destroying its cellular structure.

Although science does not yet accept the existence of invisible beings and restricts itself to the material world, we think it is worth considering the possibility that evil spirits play some part in such mental illnesses as schizophrenia. We constantly hear of cases that those who suffer from mental illness, epilepsy, or even cancer recover by reciting certain prayers. Such cases are serious and significant, and should not be denied or dismissed by attributing them to “suggestion” or “auto-suggestion.” When science breaks the thick shell in which it has confined itself and accepts the existence of the metaphysical realm and the influence of metaphysical forces, it practitioners will be able to remove many obstructions, make far greater advances, and make fewer mistakes.

[gul-e-bakauli]

Re: The power of Healing?

Thanks Cheegum. But now the question arises that if reading Quran heals an illness then what about the folks who belong to different religions and are able to perform such healings! Again, back to me post above, if the true power is solely derived from Quran then ONLy the recitation of Quran should heal it and no other.

@Cheegum

I read this article just yesterday. I think it is somewhat related to this topic.

http://www.thewaytotruth.org/metaphysicaldimension/jinn_influence.html

[worshipme]

Re: The power of Healing?

@gul-e-bakauli

What do u mean by that?

That people are not healed by witch doctors and shamans doing dances and painting symbols. Neither are they healed by someone praying for them.

When people are "healed" after receiving prayers or whatever ritual is involved in spiritually healing a physical disease, it's not because of the ritual. They just got better.

There are many stories of the people who did believe, and who did do the ritual, and who were good and obeyed the god they chose, and were healed. What no one hears about is the massive amount of people all over the world who did all the same things, but instead of being healed, they dropped dead.

[worshipme]

Re: The power of Healing?

I read this article just yesterday. I think it is somewhat related to this topic.

thewaytotruth.org/metaphysicaldimension/jinn_influence.html

This is ridiculous. It's utterly insane. There was this period of time called the Dark Ages when Christians believed the same thing. Fortunately, the Renaissance followed.

Perhaps cancer hospitals should throw out their medicine, and the staff should exorcise the Jinn. If the Jinn refuse to come out, they can always cut the patient's wrists to drain Satan from... oh, dang! he died.

[Cheegum]

Re: The power of Healing?

This is ridiculous. It's utterly insane. There was this period of time called the Dark Ages when Christians believed the same thing. Fortunately, the Renaissance followed.

Perhaps cancer hospitals should throw out their medicine, and the staff should exorcise the Jinn. If the Jinn refuse to come out, they can always cut the patient's wrists to drain Satan from... oh, dang! he died.

The renaissance too was sparked by the muslims by the way. Look up the history of Al Andalus (Spain when it was run by muslims), The Moors of spain etc. There are plenty of documentaries on Youtube too.

As for the existance of Jinn, i don't know if you're muslim or not. If you're not then i'm not going to argue with you, but just so you know believing in the Jinn is part of a muslim's faith. If thats hocus pocus to you then you are entitled to your opinion and we are to ours. Thanks.

[worshipme]

Re: The power of Healing?

The renaissance too was sparked by the muslims by the way. Look up the history of Al Andalus (Spain when it was run by muslims), The Moors of spain etc. There are plenty of documentaries on Youtube too.

As for the existance of Jinn, i don't know if you're muslim or not. If you're not then i'm not going to argue with you, but just so you know believing in the Jinn is part of a muslim's faith. If thats hocus pocus to you then you are entitled to your opinion and we are to ours. Thanks.

Believe in Jinn, just don't trust mullahs with your health. :D

[gul-e-bakauli]

Re: The power of Healing?

"Neither are they healed by someone praying for them.", so you dont believe in praying to Allah for someone who is ill or for even yourself? They just happen to get better? You have never asked Allah for anything including health?

That people are not healed by witch doctors and shamans doing dances and painting symbols. Neither are they healed by someone praying for them.

When people are "healed" after receiving prayers or whatever ritual is involved in spiritually healing a physical disease, it's not because of the ritual. They just got better.

There are many stories of the people who did believe, and who did do the ritual, and who were good and obeyed the god they chose, and were healed. What no one hears about is the massive amount of people all over the world who did all the same things, but instead of being healed, they dropped dead.

[gul-e-bakauli]

Re: The power of Healing?

Ok Lets not bring in no mullah here. They are accountable for their actions like we all do.

Believe in Jinn, just don't trust mullahs with your health. :D