The Philosophy In Martial Arts

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Fighting :faris: is bad :hehe: but I would like to know is there any philosophy behind any martial arts. What I think is all about to control your mind in your ways (means technique of martial arts) and then the body behave or response according to your mind. In addition to body fitness, the most important thing is ‘speed’ and that in sense of ‘thinking, looking, moving’ fast of seeing opponent in very slow motion where one’s mind enough time to think how to react (by using martial arts technique) to overcome to the opponent.

So in my view, I think the philosophy of martial arts is all about ‘control of mind’. :slight_smile:

What you think guyz :slight_smile:

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hmmm :hmmm:first chakara study and now this, are you studying Japanese and Chinese religion or something like that

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Yes there is a very deep philosophy in Martial Arts ...

You should watch the Kung Fu drama series ... Other than that here are some good pointers:
In terms of engagement:

1) Avoidance - Get the opponent to miss you and try to find a way to settle a dispute without fighting - if possible run away
2) Deflection - Redirect the force of the opponent back in their line of motion
3) Block - Only redirection of force is not possible then block an attack, this is done by placing using structural physics to your advantage
4) Weakest link - The quickest way to incapacitate the opponent is to strike at the weakest region, the joints rather than middle of the limbs

Always seek out 1) over 2) and 2) over 3) and use 4) only where necessary.

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Actually i was watching 'Kung Fu' which I think is less in physical involvement and more in 'mind' involvement. Its about how u achieve a level like a 'spiritual level' where u have completely control on ur soul, body and all other physical existence around you.

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Philosophy of martial arts is slightly complicated but its essence is to condition the mind, control the emotions, to respect everyone and not to be deceived by appearances.

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Do spiritual level increase due to martial arts?

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Not necessarily ... Just like any discipline pursuit of it has to be pure and for gaining of good, we have to be in tune to Divine in order to receive benefit from Him.

Spirituality is about raising consciousness with Deity ... However, many philosophies take us towards spiritual dead ends despite their fabric being somewhat spiritual.

A mathematician should lead towards the conclusion of Deity ... But by mastering mathematics people often get misled and start to conclude the very opposite of what is true. Likewise, with a spiritual path, there may be openings but they will be incomprehensible with the wrong apparatus ... And that comes from a Guide who is Himself Guided.

a crude example would be the Sith Lord compared to a Jedi Knight.

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This can be an extremely long conversation. Traditional Martial Arts have a very long history of philosophy, something that modern Martial Arts lack in comparison. It also depends on your instructor though. They may choose to focus on just the physical aspect, they may choose to keep classes more focused on being cardio workouts, or they may just talk too damn much and teach more philosophy than fighting (well, that'd be rare but still a bad thing).

I study Ninjutsu/Ninpo. What many people don't know is that the true martial art that was practiced by the ninja in ancient Japan was actually "Ninpo". Ninjutsu is just the physical aspect, however, Ninpo also includes the philosophical and moral practices that go along with it. It has a very long and diverse history full of philosophy and a very deep sense of morality. The focus is to better oneself and the world around them.

Traditionally, in the beginning of class, all the students line up in front of the sensei in order of rank and shout "Shikin hara mitsu daikomyo". This essentially means, "If you open your eyes, you will find the enlightenment you are looking for." Whatever your goals are, this is a very private and sacred ideology, allowing your training to give you complete control over your mind and body in hopes of bettering the world around you.

What many don't also realize is our main belief is to "pour fourth your inner light into a world of darkness". Hollywood glorified the notion of the ninja being cowards when in fact, they shared the same beliefs as the samurai (and many of them even were samurai, vice versa). Ninpo is bent around finding the path to harmony, and you'll find that the best of its practicioners have nearly parallel beliefs with Muslims in regard to adhab.

Then comes the really complex concepts regarding "ki" (or as the Chinese say, "chi"). It's energy, and is the same concept of the chakra points, but you actually learn where the critical points of energy flow in the body are. Ever heard of the rumors of ninja being able to apply a "death touch"? Believe it or not, it's actually not entirely false. There are points on the body you can attack using virtually no strength whatsoever to completely paralyze someone by stopping their flow of energy as well as attacking key areas of their nervous system.

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Interesting :biggthumb: will u mind to share more.

btw why the cardio workouts is necessary? I heard about ‘death touch’ and i think its somehow related to our nervous cells. :hmmm:

Plz share more :hat:

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Such a late reply but I just saw this now lol. I haven’t been on here for a long time either, so… but promise I’ll get back to you soon insh’Allah.

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No prob we’ll wait :hugz:

n :welcome: back :waves:

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Cardio is there to build stamina. Often times, physical encounters with people can end up turning into endurance matches (who gets winded/tired first). If your legs begin to get tired, your arms start feeling heavy, and you’re breathing too hard so you start getting dizzy too soon, then you’ve pretty much already lost the fight and the results could mean either you and/or a loved one lose your lives. Cardio will help you push yourself to the limit by making it harder for your body to feel fatigued and when it does get fatigued, you’ll be fine because you’ve already spent countless hours and days and months, perhaps even years for some, of training in intense pressure situations where you’ve learned to think clearly even when your body is nearing its limits. This is essential in any martial art.

The “death touch” isn’t something I’ve been taught nor have personally seen but I do know it’s something only high ranking Ninpo/Ninjutsu masters are taught. Unlike most other martial arts, there is a LOT of hidden knowledge/secrets in Ninpo which few high ranking masters are taught. This is to preserve the traditional and cultural aspect of the Ninja philosophies (Ninpo) and keep them apart from other martial arts. Some of this knowledge even entails the legendary herbal remedies that the ninja used throughout Japan’s warring history, and then others are deadly attacks such as what people refer to by the nickname of “death touch”.

What I can tell you, however, is that it has to do with energy. The Japanese and Koreans refer to it as Ki, the Chinese as Chi, Hindus as chakra. As you know, the human body, from its very core at the molecular level, is built by protons, neutrons and electrons. Our bodies are energy conductors and transmitters. Ever walk into a house after everyone has been arguing with each other and then someone says, “ghar ka mahaal kharaab hogaya hai”? Ever had someone walk into the room after they’re apparently having a superb day, their tone full of happiness and excitement, and then everyone else begin to lighten up? Negative emotions transmit negative energy just how positive emotions transmit positive energy. We are also just as susceptible to receiving these energies as we are to transmitting them. So what happens if there are two different types of energies being emitted at the same time in a small space? Energy diffusion. The stronger energy will always overtake the weaker.

So how does this tie into martial arts and the “death touch”? No, you’re not going to punch someone into depression, but you will tamper with their energy flow. Since the body’s made up of energy, there also has to be a flow of energy right? Many traditional martial arts understand this flow of energy and seek to disrupt it by landing quick and absolutely precise strikes to key energy flow points and cut off the circulation of energy. Just imagine if you cut off the flow of energy in a blood vessel to the brain or the heart? Imagine how devastating that would be? The body would cease to live nearly instantaneously.

One such attack we actually learn at a very basic level, but this is because we are expected to continue to practice it so often that by the time we reach shodan (entry level black belt), we’re able to apply it properly. You ball your hand (roll up into a fist) and perform a rapid “chop” to your opponent’s neck but before actually hitting your opponent, you open (unroll) your fist for a very quick, extra burst of force, applying the pressure needed to send an immediate shock to your opponent’s brain resulting in a stroke. This is, of course, assuming you’ve managed to pinpoint and attack the right blood vessel.

So it’s not about brute strength or just guts, it’s about lots of physical conditioning, belief in yourself with nothing short of positivity, regularly intense training to perfect your technique, and most of all, developing a pure heart to see through what is and isn’t right. This is known as Ninpo (the higher form of ninjutsu) although it’s also nearly identical to Bushido (the spiritual path of the Samurai).

Subhan’Allah, how Allah (swt) created us with such a perfect blend of complexity and simplicity at the same time.

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Interesting. Nice to read that :jazak:

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Peace Sandninjer

Ninjers have traditionally been portrayed to be immoral fighters … When compared to the Samurai … Ninjers were often used to do assassinations and would cover their faces to hide behind. However, you say that moral aspects play a role in ninja life … Perhaps you can educate me on why there is this disparity in popular understanding from what you are saying?

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wax on, wax off. master this, grasshopper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PycZtfns_U

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Good question. I admit, this is what I thought as well growing up thinking about the Ninja. The problem is that ninjas have been made out to be like Super Heroes/Villains because of Hollywood. They were demonized when in actuality, Japanese history shows that even the Ninja had a pure lineage and respectable family line. So most of what you’ll read on the Internet is by people who have never studied the art and are merely bent on the stories made up about them for the sake of creating fancy stories. So let me tell you the real truth as it will change how you perceive the Ninja forever (hopefully).

In actuality, the Ninja didn’t roam around in black. Most of them were farmers and they would dress like the average villager as a less-conspicuous disguise. Many of them were even Samurai and vice-versa. The differences between the Samurai and Ninja were minor. Out of what they considered honor, the Samurai were too willing to give up their lives once defeated. In comparison toward the Ninja, they were highly inefficient. The Ninja valued success of their missions over what the Samurai considered “honorable”, so they used whatever means necessary to achieve their goals. They played a crucial role in shaping Japan’s history in various eras all the way from the Warring States period to the Meiji Restoration. They even often worked side by side with the Samurai.

So “immoral” is a perspective. Here in the U.S., the average mentality is that all freedom fighters in the Middle East fighting back against foreign (NATO) invaders are also immoral because they hide in caves and utilize guerrilla tactics. Would you agree with that? The Ninja were few by numbers but excelled in the success rate of their missions. They didn’t kill themselves after failing missions as the Samurai traditionally did.

Many don’t know, however, that the higher path of the Ninja is not just Ninjutsu which is just the art of fighting, it’s Ninpo – the spiritual refinement that one utilizes to better the world around them utilizing the fighting arts of Ninjutsu. The Ninja had a mission to achieve greater peace and harmony, most often working side to side with the Emperor and/or the Daimyo of the various clans, which is what they strove for. They were not, however, assassins-for-hire as they’re shown to be in Hollywood. In fact, there is a common saying that has been passed down in Ninpo that is recited toward the beginning of every class, “Shikin Hara-mitsu Daikomyo” – it means, “If you open your eyes, you will find what you yearn for” and is applied to any individual’s own beliefs or goals.

*Edit - On the topic of lineage, today’s Ninpo/Ninjutsu is taught from descendants of the children of the Takeda (Samurai) and Koga (Ninja) clans. The Takeda clan were one of the largest and most feared clans throughout Japan and were sided with the Koga Ninja, one of the two main Ninja clans throughout Japan’s history, until eventually they became one clan when the heirs of both wed each other. In fact, our logo is the combination of both the Takeda and Koga.

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Barak’Allah fik, bro, glad you enjoyed it.