The perfect summerization of Islam in 1 line.

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Mere mortal?

Sem, were cool, but plz dont disrespect the blessed messenger of Allah again-thanks. :)

The whole universe was created only for the beloved of Allah, the nur of Allah, the king of the prophets, the king of Medina and the master of all The noble prophet of Allah, sallu alhi wa alahi wa sallam.

Love of Allah comes only thru love of the messenger. He who does not love before his own life the prophet, his love for Allah cannot be and his prayers are pointless, his duwa is just a waste of breath.

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Mobby, Allah SWT got there b4 u did. He summarized it in one line - La Ilaha Illallah, Muhammadur Rasul Allah.

Now that's *real *beauty.

Encompasses Qur'an, Hadith, the whole galaxy and all creation in it, coz anywhichway u look at it, it's all God.

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But those who say that (muslims) are only here cos Allah wanted it, and that too was for the glorification of his messenger. The name of our master signs every star, and all living things sing there praise. They are the reason for other creation.

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Sorry, Mo - no disrespect to your blessed messenger intended. But he's not my messenger, prophet or master. I do believe he was a benevolent, wise and powerful leader - but a mere mortal nonetheless.

How can you say the object of Islam is to love Mohammed, that the world was created for him? I read here on gupshup all the time that the big mistake in Christianity was the elevation given to Jesus. But I've never heard a Christian say that the universe was created for the glory of Jesus.

Besides, I thought there was no distinction between the prophets.

Isn't the whole idea of Islam the submission to Allah and not Mohammed?

btw - you are still breaking that rule that makes you so mad when others do it - you are omitting those little letters that follow after mentioning your prophet.

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Thats almost a good point, except I never type "mohammed"-i always refer to them as "Rasool Allah" ect, but I will take notice of your reminder.

I havent earned the right to use their blessed name, no one here has. we need to know our own nothingness in comtrast to there brilliance.

Also whilst we do not worship the blessed messenger, we love them more then our lives. Allah can forgive insults to him (astagfurallah), but HE will never forgive disrespect of his jewel, the king of ALL other creation, the master of all-the noble messenger.

And I accept the point on Jesus (pbuh) and Christians, and we do not fall into that blasphemy, but it must be understood that (from our POV-love to all Xtians ect here) the noble messenger is worth more then all the other prophets put together, there miracles combined are not even a speck of dust in comparison to 1 minor miracle of Rasool Allah. This is our firm belief. :)

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:nono: Mo, Prophet Muhammed SAW himself, while acknowledging that he was the last prophet, never disrespected the other prophets of Islam as lesser to himself. He never belittled their miracles as any lesser than his achievements, so who are we mere ordinary dust to say that his one miracle was greater than all of their combined? Stay within the prescribed realm of Islam.. excess in love, like excess in hate, is detrimental. Muhammed SAW has advised moderation in all things.

Seminole, there is no distinction between prophets for us humans. In their own time, they were exemplary models of virtue and piety, and we are told to love and respect them all equally. BUT, since Muhammed SAW was the last prophet, as in a family where the last baby is showered with a little more affection than the rest, so we as humans with natural built-in biases, shower him with a little bit more love and gratitude, and there is really no harm in that.

Islam is always, and will always be, submission to Allah SWT above all things, there is no question about that.

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"the noble messenger is worth more then all the other prophets put together, there miracles combined are not even a speck of dust in comparison to 1 minor miracle of Rasool Allah. "

I stand by that!

If you dont consider them any greater/special, then why do you regard them as the GREATEST of the prophets. You cannot be greater then something unless you are more great.

And its not as case of "cussing" the other prophets, merely of underscoring the status of the king of the messengers. (You should listen to some David warnsbury and Yusuf Islam). :)

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^ :smack: . Ok Ok, chill… and try n understand what I wrote…

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Believe.

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Well said brother Mo!

Allah says in the Qur'an:

** Obey Allah AND Obey the Messenger **

And:

** Verily thou art of a MAGNIFICENT character **

and Allah calls the hand of the Messenger of Allah as His own hands in the Qur'an!

And in the hadith qudsi Allah says to His Beloved:

** "Lawlaka, lawlaka, maa khalaqtul aflaka"

But for thee, but for thee, I would not have created the heavens!

And in another version

But for thee, but for thee I would not have created the world [dunya].

**

And Allah's Habib, Our Master sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam said:

** I am the sayyid [master] of the children of Adam and I do not boast! **

and the whole Qur'an and hadith are full of testimony to the greatness of Our Aaqa sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam.

As the great aashiq Ala Hazrat wrote:

**
Woh jo na thay tau kuchh na thaa
Woh jo na hoN tau kuchh na ho
Jaan hain yeh jaahaan kii
Jaan hai tau jahaan hai!

**
:)

And the great Sufi and Wali of Egypt Imam Busiri (d.1296) said in the legendary Qasida Burdah:

**
Muhammad is the Master of Both Worlds and of Mankind and of Jinn
And of the Arabs and of the Non Arabs!
**

As for those who consider Our Beloved Prophet sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam as 'just a mere mortal' (nauzubillah) then if we do a survey of the Koran we find that no one ever said that to the Prophets EXCEPT the kaafirs and non-believers.

For the Prophet sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam though human was NOT like other humans either physically or spiritually. His exterior (alayhisalatusalam) was human (although perfect in every sense) but his interior was angelic. Outwardly bashar inwardly noor. And I am not saying this of my own desire. It is the belief of the Ahlus Sunnah based on Quran and Sunnah. For just one example you can read the great Andalusian scholar Qadi Iyad al Maliki in his masterpiece "Kitab ash-Shifa bi ta'rif Huquq al Mustafa" translated into English by Aisha Bewley as Muhammad: Messenger of Allah (sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam).

Assalatu wa assalamu alayka Ya Sayyidi Ya Rasul Allah
Assalatu wa assalamu alayka Ya Sayyidi Ya Habib Allah

sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam

:)

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I have learned a lot from Imam and Islam (I think thats the title) By Imam Ahmed Raza Khan Barelvi. For a short book, less then 100 pages-A5 size, it packs a punch of knowledge on par with Lennox Lewis's booming right hand, as viewed in his 90 secod destruction of Andrew Golota. Maybe now you'll believe in the power of Lennox Lewis!

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This is where the ummah has fallen, they have lowered the status of our master and reduced there love for them. As Imam Hamza Yusuf narrates, upon death-the soul says "Lo to me! Its true what the prophets said".

That is in a wicked talk called "On death and Dying", also you ppl must listen to "Wal Isra Wal Miraj" and "The character of the prophet".

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Day to day rituals.

A good thing if it creates a passion for God. Absolutely.

A concentration of God.

A belief. A good belief.

I think the rituals of ones learned religion are a way to ease ones soul.

I think an easing of soul was God's intention. It's the way you are supposed to feel when you pray and think about God.

I don't think it's something worth arguing over.

You have faith. Or you cannot grasp the concept of faith.

Whether it's Mohammad's, Moses' or Jesu' teachings....or even Buddah's.

Emphatically I believe that no one single way is the only way to God. In fact, I think God teaches us by example. HIS example.

And HIS example gave us Moses, Mohammad, Jesus and the rest.

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^ great post

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Shame that cant be said about your post sem. :p

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That's ok, Mo. We can't all be as open minded and thoughtul as that post is, can we?

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You certainly cant be.

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**o·pen-mind·ed *(pn-mndd)
*adj.
Having or showing receptiveness to new and different ideas or the opinions of others

I'm open-minded to the idea that Mohammed could be one's path to God.
Are you open to the idea that Jesus may be the path for others to God?

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That is really nice....

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No, I am not that open minded. :p