Sums up everything that is wrong with Pakistan. It’s a sham. The kachehriyan(?) are the most immoral and indecent of all places in Pakistan. You know you have problems when the lawyers are more interested in english dictation than getting facts right, in showing off their multiple LLB’s and in not having any sense of lateral thinking. Whats worse is that I feel these problems are a reflection of pakistani society in general. Are we a society suffering from collective delusion?
you are absolutely right.
most common advocates try to put a sign board as big as they can to show off a degree that is completed by people mostly who dont get admission to anything else.
the other elite advocates who has more to show off llm and phd from abroad. they are not different either, just another class, they get big bucks, give some to the judge and get the result without any professional research or work.
thats how it works mostly. if you get expensive advocate it doesnt really mean you are paying for his professionalism but for hi "PR"
and some of these elite advocates get selected as judges, some friends at one and other on other. making it perfect marriage.
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you are absolutely right.
most common advocates try to put a sign board as big as they can to show off a degree that is completed by people mostly who dont get admission to anything else.
the other elite advocates who has more to show off llm and phd from abroad. they are not different either, just another class, they get big bucks, give some to the judge and get the result without any professional research or work.
thats how it works mostly. if you get expensive advocate it doesnt really mean you are paying for his professionalism but for hi "PR"
and some of these elite advocates get selected as judges, some friends at one and other on other. making it perfect marriage.
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I hate Lawyers! Damn Blood Suckers!
Can you please tell what it's like the system.
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Can you please tell what it's like the system.
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File Challan Forms and hope for the best! :)
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Can you please tell what it's like the system.
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Hear hear. Can someone please describe it in detail... even anecdotal experiences, anything, to convey a sense of how the "system" operates.
There was a brilliant documentary on Channel 4 a couple of years ago called ‘Lahore Law’ basically showing the working of the public courts. The system is pathetic to say the least. The sense of injustice and feeling of outrage I experienced when I was just watching the program was overwhelming. I was practically shouting at the TV screen in disbelief at what I was seeing. I can’t begin to imagine what people who have to deal with such incompetence and bare-faced lies on a routine basis must go through.
From a personal experience, I realised the other side of the same coin which I have experienced, from officials who ask for bribes - sirf bees pound dey daiN- at airports to getting your license back and not being charged because you know somebody who knows somebody else. But then the police are likely to charge you falsely in the first place anyway to line their own pockets.
What it comes down to is that Pakistan is way too bureaucratic for its own good. All the red tape does it to fuel dishonesty further. Especially when it continues, in my view, to try to implement a system that was and still is alien to most of the native population. One slight example of this, in that documentary was that the whole court proceedings were practically conducted in english! Its hard enough understanding legal language when you speak english, never mind when you sign with a thumb print.
For those want to know briefly what the system is like, this ‘Judicial System needs reform’ is an OK article to read. Sorry I couldn’t find more relevent articles.
Mate atleast our judges have compassion, compared to their indian counterparts, i have been told by Ashish Prasat an indian who says that although they have great lawyers their judges are curropt and people take bribes in India just as they do in Pakistan, And as for the Channel 4 Documentary, these are the same people who made a documentary where the used the words "Mohammed is a Dead Prophet, Jesus is a Living saviour. Yeah right! Ignorant fools!
Channel 4 sucks,… SO your judging an entire legal system established by the british with well over 358 local and national legislations being passed since independence!
So what if there are problems, atleast we have the rule of law compared to some other countries! “Mashallah”
XTC,
Extremely interesting. Thanks for taking the time to type all that out.
The BBC’s Masud Alam from their Urdu Services section is publishing a series of articles on Pakistan’s prisons. If you are interested, check them out. Third one should come out sometime next week.
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There was a brilliant documentary on Channel 4 a couple of years ago called 'Lahore Law' basically showing the working of the public courts.
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I remeber watching that program, It was really good and interesting.
There were some worrying things though, and not just about the system but the people involved too.