… were Islam, Haneef and Muslim
Discuss.
Re: The Original Religion, the Original Faith and the first Man
nature worship, i'd think.
Re: The Original Religion, the Original Faith and the first Man
Adam:as: never worshipped nature.
He was a Muslim and his religion was Islam hence a ‘Haneef’ by nature.
Re: The Original Religion, the Original Faith and the first Man
adam is a symbolic myth. stone age man was a hunter gatherer who worshipped the forces of nature like fire, thunder, trees, animals, rivers..
Re: The Original Religion, the Original Faith and the first Man
He is not a symbolic myth… He lived in the world and his footmarks are there in Sri Lanka.. and Allah:swt: says in Quran:
2:30 Behold, thy Lord said to the angels: “I will create a vicegerent on earth.” They said: “Wilt Thou place therein one who will make mischief therein and shed blood?- whilst we do celebrate Thy praises and glorify Thy holy (name)?” He said: “I know what ye know not.”
2:31 And He taught Adam the nature of all things; then He placed them before the angels, and said: “Tell me the nature of these if ye are right.”
2:32 They said: “Glory to Thee, of knowledge We have none, save what Thou Hast taught us: In truth it is Thou Who art perfect in knowledge and wisdom.”
Re: The Original Religion, the Original Faith and the first Man
mythology, which you are trying to prove by quoting scripture. ergo, circular argument.
there are innumerable archaeological sites which depict ancient worship which clearly has nothing to do with semitic forms of worship.
Re: The Original Religion, the Original Faith and the first Man
Islam is not a myth like any other religion; atleast to its followers. Other religions might be. To each his own. and therefore Allah:swt: says in Quran for those who reject faith:
2:34 And behold, We said to the angels: “Bow down to Adam” and they bowed down. Not so Iblis:** he refused and was haughty: He was of those who reject Faith. **
Re: The Original Religion, the Original Faith and the first Man
true, but as an objective observer, with no belief in semitic mythology, the story of adam and eve holds no water.
Re: The Original Religion, the Original Faith and the first Man
Then an objective Observer might be more satisfied with having a monkey forefather as was suggested by Darwin.
Re: The Original Religion, the Original Faith and the first Man
How long ago did Adam walk on earth? any time frame? million years ag0? 4000 years ago?
Re: The Original Religion, the Original Faith and the first Man
thanks for clarifying.
Re: The Original Religion, the Original Faith and the first Man
darwin didnt suggest a monkey forefather. this is a common fallacy among the religious. evolution indicates that humans are related to all other life forms. humans and monkeys have common ancestry leading back to two million years ago. man didnt evolve from monkeys. please do ask if you have questions.
Re: The Original Religion, the Original Faith and the first Man
so every species have their own adam and eve ?
Re: The Original Religion, the Original Faith and the first Man
Islam is the first religion adopted by man. As Quran says about it.
** In Surah MARYAM chapter number 19 verse number 58**
"Those were some of the prophets on whom Allah did bestow His Grace,- of the posterity of Adam, and of those who We carried (in the Ark) with Noah, and of the posterity of Abraham and Israel of those whom We guided and chose. Whenever the Signs of (Allah) Most Gracious were rehearsed to them, they would fall down in prostrate adoration and in tears. "
** In Surah AL-BAQARA chapter number 2 verse number 31**
"And He taught Adam all the names, then presented them to the angels; then He said: Tell me the names of those if you are right. "
Re: The Original Religion, the Original Faith and the first Man
original man was adam, his faith was in his abilities to last through the day, his religion was Chaltahaism. Since it is proven by prophet chaltahai circa 2000, it is true.
Re: The Original Religion, the Original Faith and the first Man
Pity many religions talk about how and why the first man was created, but not WHEN
Re: The Original Religion, the Original Faith and the first Man
Evolution of religion:
The first organized religions appear to have been based on fertility. They were focused on the worship of the great Earth Goddess. Religion evolved to include male Gods who were gradually given increased importance by the priests. This development may have been caused by developing knowledge of the male’s involvement in the process of reproduction.
Today, most people follow either:
A monotheistic religion, in which a single male god is worshipped, or
A henotheistic religion – a religion which recognizes a single main deity, but which recognizes other gods and goddesses, heroes, or saints as facets or manifestations or aspects of that supreme God.
Most religions teach that they were directly revealed by their deity/deities to humanity, and are unrelated to other world religions. However there is considerable historical evidence from ancient times that religions in the area from India to the Middle East shared many religious beliefs. One example of this are:
The many passages in the Hebrew Scriptures which contain concepts or passages taken from Egyptian, Babylonian and other nearby Pagan religions.
Many of the events in the life of Jesus as recorded in the Christian Scriptures (New Testament) appear to have been derived from earlier Hinduism and other Pagan religious sources.
Religions were originally based on the particular beliefs of their founders and prophets. Thus, there were few points of similarity among the various spiritual paths:
In terms of their belief about supernatural being(s), various faith traditions have taught Agnosticism, Animism, Atheism, Deism, Duotheism, Henotheism, Monism, Monotheism, Panentheism, Pantheism, Polytheism, Trinitarianism, and probably a few that we have missed. It is obvious from these conflicting ideas about deities that almost all religions are just plain wrong.
Few agreements exist among the world’s religions about religious beliefs, sacred ritual, organizational structure, optimum family structure, personal sexual behavior, etc.
Religions’ traditional teachings in the area of science differ greatly from each other and from the findings of scientists. Examples are: how the universe was formed, where rainbows came from; the world-wide flood; talking animals; the sun standing still in the sky; the cause of epilepsy, deafness, blindness, and mental illnesses; demonic possession, etc.
Re: The Original Religion, the Original Faith and the first Man
[quote]
Pity many religions talk about how and why the first man was created, but not WHEN
[/quote]
Now you can see Allah calls us Children of Adam, he was created with dust.
** 1.In Surah AL-BAQARA chapter number 2 verse number 31**
"And He taught Adam all the names, then presented them to the angels; then He said: Tell me the names of those if you are right. "
** 2.In Surah AL-BAQARA chapter number 2 verse number 33**
"He said: O Adam! inform them of their names. Then when he had informed them of their names, He said: Did I not say to you that I surely know what is ghaib in the heavens and the earth and (that) I know what you manifest and what you hide? "
** 3.In Surah AL-BAQARA chapter number 2 verse number 34**
"And when We said to the angels: Make obeisance to Adam they did obeisance, but Iblis (did it not). He refused and he was proud, and he was one of the unbelievers."
** 4.In Surah AL-BAQARA chapter number 2 verse number 35**
"And We said: O Adam! Dwell you and your wife in the garden and eat from it a plenteous (food) wherever you wish and do not approach this tree, for then you will be of the unjust."
** 5.In Surah AL-BAQARA chapter number 2 verse number 37**
"Then Adam received (some) words from his Lord, so He turned to him mercifully; surely He is Oft-returning (to mercy), the Merciful. "
** 6.In Surah AL-E-IMRAN chapter number 3 verse number 33**
"Surely Allah chose Adam and Nuh and the descendants of Ibrahim and the descendants of Imran above the nations. "
** 7.In Surah AL-E-IMRAN chapter number 3 verse number 59**
"Surely the likeness of Isa is with Allah as the likeness of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him, Be, and he was. "
**
8.In Surah AL-MAEDA chapter number 5 verse number 27**
"And relate to them the story of the two sons of Adam with truth when they both offered an offering, but it was accepted from one of them and was not accepted from the other. He said: I I will most certainly slay you. (The other) said: Allah only accepts from those who guard (against evil). "
** 9.In Surah AL-ARAF chapter number 7 verse number 11**
"It is We Who created you and gave you shape; then We bade the angels prostrate to Adam, and they prostrate; not so Iblis; He refused to be of those who prostrate."
**
10.In Surah AL-ARAF chapter number 7 verse number 19**
""O Adam! dwell thou and thy wife in the Garden, and enjoy (its good things) as ye wish: but approach not this tree, or ye run into harm and transgression.""
** 11.In Surah AL-ARAF chapter number 7 verse number 26**
"O ye Children of Adam! We have bestowed raiment upon you to cover your shame, as well as to be an adornment to you. But the raiment of righteousness,- that is the best. Such are among the Signs of Allah, that they may receive admonition!"
** 12.In Surah AL-ARAF chapter number 7 verse number 27**
"O ye Children of Adam! Let not Satan seduce you, in the same manner as He got your parents out of the Garden, stripping them of their raiment, to expose their shame: for he and his tribe watch you from a position where ye cannot see them: We made the evil ones friends (only) to those without faith."
** 13.In Surah AL-ARAF chapter number 7 verse number 31**
"O Children of Adam! wear your beautiful apparel at every time and place of prayer: eat and drink: But waste not by excess, for Allah loveth not the wasters. "
** 14.In Surah AL-ARAF chapter number 7 verse number 35**
"O ye Children of Adam! whenever there come to you messengers from amongst you, rehearsing My signs unto you,- those who are righteous and mend (their lives),- on them shall be no fear nor shall they grieve. "
** 15.In Surah AL-ARAF chapter number 7 verse number 172**
"When thy Lord drew forth from the Children of Adam - from their loins - their descendants, and made them testify concerning themselves, (saying): "Am I not your Lord (who cherishes and sustains you)?"- They said: "Yea! We do testify!" (This), lest ye should say on the Day of Judgment: "Of this we were never mindful": "
** 16.In Surah AL-ISRA chapter number 17 verse number 61**
"Behold! We said to the angels: "Bow down unto Adam": They bowed down except Iblis: He said, "Shall I bow down to one whom Thou didst create from clay?" "
** 17.In Surah AL-ISRA chapter number 17 verse number 70**
"We have honoured the sons of Adam; provided them with transport on land and sea; given them for sustenance things good and pure; and conferred on them special favours, above a great part of our creation. "
** 18.In Surah AL-KAHF chapter number 18 verse number 50**
"Behold! We said to the angels, "Bow down to Adam": They bowed down except Iblis. He was one of the Jinns, and he broke the Command of his Lord. Will ye then take him and his progeny as protectors rather than Me? And they are enemies to you! Evil would be the exchange for the wrong-doers! "
** 19.In Surah MARYAM chapter number 19 verse number 58**
"Those were some of the prophets on whom Allah did bestow His Grace,- of the posterity of Adam, and of those who We carried (in the Ark) with Noah, and of the posterity of Abraham and Israel of those whom We guided and chose. Whenever the Signs of (Allah) Most Gracious were rehearsed to them, they would fall down in prostrate adoration and in tears.
** 20.In Surah TA-HA chapter number 20 verse number 115**
"We had already, beforehand, taken the covenant of Adam, but he forgot: and We found on his part no firm resolve. "
** 21.In Surah TA-HA chapter number 20 verse number 116**
"When We said to the angels, "Prostrate yourselves to Adam", they prostrated themselves, but not Iblis: he refused. "
** 22.In Surah TA-HA chapter number 20 verse number 117**
"Then We said: "O Adam! verily, this is an enemy to thee and thy wife: so let him not get you both out of the Garden, so that thou art landed in misery. "
**
23.In Surah TA-HA chapter number 20 verse number 120**
"But Satan whispered evil to him: he said, "O Adam! shall I lead thee to the Tree of Eternity and to a kingdom that never decays?" "
** 24.In Surah TA-HA chapter number 20 verse number 121**
"In the result, they both ate of the tree, and so their nakedness appeared to them: they began to sew together, for their covering, leaves from the Garden: thus did Adam disobey his Lord, and allow himself to be seduced. "
** 25.In Surah YA-SEEN chapter number 36 verse number 60**
""Did I not enjoin on you, O ye Children of Adam, that ye should not worship Satan; for that he was to you an enemy avowed?- "
Re: The Original Religion, the Original Faith and the first Man
Question:
At one place the Qur’an mentions that man is created from sperm and in another place it mentions that man is created from dust. Are these two verses not contradicting? How can you scientifically prove that man is created from dust?
** Answer:**
** 1. Man created from sperm and dust**
The Qur’an refers to the lowly beginnings of a human being from a drop of sperm, in several verses including the following verse from Surah Al-Qiyamah:
"Was he not a drop of sperm emitted (in lowly form)"?
[Al-Qur’an 75:37]
The Qur’an also mentions in several places that human beings were created from dust. The following verse makes a reference to the origin of human beings:
"(Consider) that We created you out of dust".
[Al-Qur’an 22:5]
We now know that all the elements present in the human body (i.e. the constituent elements of the human body), are all present in the earth in small or great quantities. This is the scientific explanation for the Qur’anic verse that says that man was created from dust.
In certain verses, the Qur’an says that man was created from sperm, while in certain other verses it says that man was created from dust. However this is not a contradiction. Contradiction means statements, which are opposite or conflicting and both cannot be true simultaneously.
** 2. Man created from water**
In certain places the Qur’an also says that man was created from water. For instance in Surah Al-Furqan it says:
"It is He Who has created man from water".
[Al-Qur’an 25:54]
Science has proved all the three statements to be correct. Man has been created from sperm, dust as well as water.
** 3. It is not a Contradiction but a Contradistinction**
Suppose I say that in order to make a cup of tea one needs water. One also needs tea-leaves or tea powder. The two statements are not contradictory since both water and tea leaves are required in order to make a cup of tea. Furthermore if I want sweet tea I can even add sugar.
Thus there is no contradiction in the Qur’an when it says that man is created from sperm, dust and water. It is not a contradiction but a contradistinction. Contradistinction means speaking about two different concepts on the same subject without conflict. For instance if I say that the man is always truthful and a habitual liar, it is a contradiction, but if I say that a man is always honest, kind and loving, then it is a contradistinction.
Re: The Original Religion, the Original Faith and the first Man
Scientists sometimes study Rhesus monkeys to learn more about the human anatomy because there are certain similarities between the two species. if you are relgious
person who dont believe in closeness of two species how you are going to discover
something . some regid dogmatic ideological relgious beliefs restricts innovation.