Re: The New World Order
A proper pronunciation would be "The Jew World Order"
looking at what is happening around the world, this name sounds just right!
Re: The New World Order
10 years down the road Clinton saying the same thing we have been discussing here since ages.
Al Qaeda still a threat, spreading geographically: Clinton | DAWN.COM
Al Qaeda still a threat, spreading geographically: Clinton
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US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. — Photo by AP
**ISTANBUL: Al Qaeda is still a serious and imminent threat as it is spreading geographically, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Thursday.
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“The core of al Qaeda that carried out the 9/11 attacks may be on the path to defeat, but the threat has spread, becoming more geographically diverse,” Clinton said ahead of a counterterrorism meeting.
“We will always maintain our right to use force against groups such as al Qaeda that have attacked us and still threaten us with imminent attack.”
Although the group has lost serious blood after its core leadership ranks were destroyed, Clinton said, “the danger from terrorism remains urgent and undeniable.”
She was referring to the recent killing of al Qaeda number two Abu Yahya al-Libi Tuesday, after a US drone strike dealt the most weighty blow to the group since the killing of its mastermind, Osama bin Laden.
Since US President Barack Obama took office in 2009, US forces have been engaged in a relentless attempt to crush the group in various countries Afghanistan, Pakistan and Yemen.
Re: The New World Order
i agree with the above poster that we keep on discussing issues but we dont seem to find any solutions. I think its important to discuss all this becuase it helps us understand the real issues such as US Agenda but once we have realized that US is not going to benefit Pakistan in anyway and Like Ali syed has provided us with the bigger picture that how US is trying to control each region as it feel threatned from Iran, China and Russia; So there shouldnt be any expectations from the US and we cannot build up a good relationship with the US no matter what. This relationship will never work out period. So yes our focus should be working on having better relationships with countries who are worthy of building a friendly relationship. I am not saying we should wage a war against the US even with your enemy its good to have a peaceful relationship as long as its not effecting us as badly as it is in the current situation where we see drone attacks etc. Obviously we cant really do something as government is supposed to realize all this and am sure they all do but they all are stuck somewhere. I think on indivual basis we can only try to have strong faith as we need help from Allah, secondly we need to stay as united as possible when a issue comes up we should all think as a nation and not as sindhi or muhajirs Or as shias or sunnis. There is a saying i am sorry i cant seem to find it someone can correct me here i think this is what it means that you should speak up against the zalim and if u cant do that atleast in your heart consider it bad. If we set these two things as out first priority when we think of any matter i think Allah will also help us to find out any solution and get out of the current mess that Pakistan is going through. We all know that no matter which party you support they all have not done what they should have done so why do we fight for them? and try to prove that felani party is less corrupt than felani party?
and do you think at the end of day is it all about pakistan and Us or any other country ? no its beyond that we are muslims and we have been told many things about the end times that will happen and why it will happen and what we all should be doing.
Re: The New World Order
**BBC: **7 June 2012
Panetta: US losing patience with Pakistan on militancy
Washington is running out of patience with Pakistan over alleged safe havens for Taliban militants, US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta has warned.
On an unannounced trip to Kabul, he said Islamabad must act against the Haqqani militant network, which attacks Nato troops based in Afghanistan.
Mr Panetta's visit comes amid a recent rise in insurgent attacks in the war against the Taliban, including one on Wednesday in which 22 people died.
Pakistan denies providing safe havens.
Pakistani officials have previously pointed to army operations against militant organisations in tribal areas, adding that many hundreds of Pakistani civilians and troops have died at the hands of such groups.
Washington has for many years urged Islamabad to deal with the militants based in its tribal regions.
Increasingly strained
I think it's important to make sure we are aware of the kind of attacks [the Taliban] are going to engage in... as we go through the rest of the summer”
End Quote Leon Panetta US defence secretary
"We are reaching the limits of our patience here," Mr Panetta said after talks with Afghanistan's defence minister.
He singled out the Haqqani militant network, which is widely believed to be based in Pakistan's volatile north-western tribal areas, and has been blamed for some of the most audacious attacks on Afghan soil in recent years.
On Wednesday, suicide attackers killed at least 22 people, almost all of them civilians, in an attack near a Nato base in Kandahar. Afghan officials say that 18 civilians were killed by a Nato air strike in Logar province.
"It is difficult to achieve peace in Afghanistan as long as there is safe haven for terrorists in Pakistan," Mr Panetta said.
"It is very important for Pakistan to take steps. It is an increasing concern, the issue of safe haven," he said.
Relations between Washington and Islamabad have become increasingly strained following the unilateral US raid into Pakistan to kill Osama bin Laden in May 2011.
Tensions are also high over continuing US drone strikes in Pakistan and Islamabad's refusal to re-open a Nato supply route to Afghanistan which it closed down in November after 24 of its soldiers were killed on the border in a Nato air strike.
Analysts say that Pakistan's co-operation is crucial as Nato tries to stabilise Afghanistan before most foreign combat troops leave the country at the end of 2014.
Porous border But last September outgoing Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Adm Mike Mullen said that the Haqqani network "acts as a veritable arm of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency".
Mr Panetta said he was concerned about recent insurgent attacks in Afghanistan
The following month, Pakistan's army chief Ashfaq Kayani warned the US that it should focus on stabilising Afghanistan instead of pushing Pakistan to attack militant groups in the crucial border region.
Officials say efforts to combat militancy also have been hindered by the fact that neither Pakistan nor Afghanistan has control over parts of the porous border area.
But analysts believe that Pakistan is reluctant to open a new front in its fight against militancy by attacking the Haqqani network, believed to be in the tribal region of North Waziristan.
As he arrived in Kabul, Mr Panetta told reporters that he wanted to hear an assessment from commanders about a recent rise in insurgent attacks and plans for troop withdrawals.
He said that while insurgent attacks appeared better organised, the overall level of violence had reduced compared with previous years.
Speaking to troops gathered at the airport in Kabul, Mr Panetta said that "we have every responsibility to defend ourselves and... we've got to put pressure on Pakistan to take them on as well".
His visit comes at the end of his week-long trip to Asia to explain a new US military strategy, announced in January, that calls for a shift in strategic focus to the Asia-Pacific region.
Re: The New World Order
Personally i think both India and Pakistan were created to fulfill the desires of the then masters. I dont really believe all that Gandhi and Jinnah battling against the odds to get independence from the British. In fact i believe this is what the British wanted all along - two subservient states to the West and its agenda.
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spread geographically to all muslim countries incidentally and oh it has nothing to do with the fact that we need an excuse to present to not only our own citizens but to the world to invade any muslim country we want to so that we can make sure we destroy them from the inside take over their resources all in the name of national security despite the fact that 9/11 was like 11 years ago and who knows if al qaeda was even a part of it but we are gonna make it seem like they are and use that to continue to forward our own agenda :mad:
Re: The New World Order
Seriously the way they invaded Iraq on a lie. anything is possible, they had made their intention clear just after the breakup of Russia. 10 years after the war on terror, and delay in starting the war proceedings against the ‘high profile’ culprits in their custody raises a lot of questions.