I could not have said it better my self, 10 outa 10… :k:
Why it is that leftists like Pepe Escobar and his Islamists lackeys salivate on US attacking Pakistan's nukes?
For 100 th time, here is the reality.
A. The West MAY not like Pakistani nukes BUT (a big BUT)
B. The West DOES not FEAR Pakistanis establishment + Army and hence it will never fear Pak nukes as long as Pakistani establishment is in control of these devices.
C. Anyone who wants to put Pakistan in the axis of evil N. Korea or Iran MUST be out of his mind.
D. And that's precisely why, Pakistan was never put under "Crippling sanctions" like the West did to Iran and N. Korea. Our food, fuel, and basic necessities were never stopped like they have done to the axis of evil.
E. The reason West has deep appreciation of Pakistani establishment, is obvious. Pak establishment has always been on the side of the West (unlike Mullah regimes of Iran and Commie regime of N. Korea).
Off course Islamists would love to push Pakistan into the axis of evil. That's what you expect from "evil people".
there is difference Pakistan is already declared nuclear nation, that different approach than Korea and Iran who have ambitions to get nuclear. in recent history you will see the US tactics of war.
they went into Iraq after making sure they dont have single WMD for possible backlash from Iraq. with no fly zone, UN Inspections, sanctions 10 year they made sure you its clean of WMD and then went in safely.
for Pakistan they cant adopt the same techinique, they cant even impose UN sanctions as Pakistan didnt sign CTBT, hence didnt break any nuke law. plus puttin sanction on a nuclear armed nation is not going to work. direct all out war will also not work. Pakistan played well with them during building nukes and US couldnt stop it by one or the other reasons.
US want to re use it Mujahideen plan against soviets, now against Pakistan but missing all dimention in the process. Though the paid fanatics at the top has done much damaged to Pakistn, but its not winnable for US. Pak nukes only required by US cause its possible use against Israel! they want to even remove far far possiblity against Israel. India is into this game for own purpose and its advantages in regards to China and Pakistan.
anyway its un winnable war against Pakistan by US and its proxies, sure it had created problems for Pakistan, not to the point that it will be easy ride for US or India.
simple logic, if ill quiped afghanistan can fight the US for years and US not getting anywhere near to any results, they really think they can win and take over Pak nukes with such tactics?
and dont be shallow in your thinking what US wants... out of it!
why US is in Iraq, Afghanistan(a war torn country with high poverty)
simple answer all middle east, they want strategic control over the whole region for own policy of imperialism
blah blah
those “sanctions” apparently didn’t achieve their goals and US Administration failed on an international front. Now the same North Korea and Iran smile while the U.S. finds a way to “talk” to them…
brilliant success! 
oh and just so you know, Pakistan has previously had sanctions and it did just fine and still stands as a nuclear power today. keep whining and labeling others and crying, it won’t change the reality that “axis of evil” is soon to become “prospective unofficial allies” the way Obama administration is reaching out to everyone unconditionally for the sake of securing American interests in the region(s).
how do you maintain the posture after you’ve been taken to the cleaners a dozen times and rebutted on your flawed sense of things? 
Personal attacks IGNORED! (These attacks are Da thing for the debate-losers)
Pakistan has previously had sanctions and it did just fine .
Those sanctions were "slap on the wrist". Our food, fuel, financial transactions etc. was never stopped. Only the military supplies got impacted.
Ask the axis of evil Iran and N. Korea. They beg, and steal even the basic stuff. N. Korea begs of puny $ million 1 aid. They are like those nomad children surviving on the bread crumbs.
And Iran with all its ayatullah might, steals stuff in the black market and even then has to buy PETROL. And we thought they are the oil producing nation. Oh well this is what Mullah rule does that to you.
Here is Iran, the so called Islamic Bum-power and they can't fix even their oil refineries.
This is what REAL sanctions do to you.
Luckily Pakistanis establishment was smart enough to never get to that point. Hopefully to Islamists' nightmare, we never will.
..... Now the same North Korea and Iran smile while the U.S. finds a way to "talk" to them... ...
N. Korea would be obliterated in a day, if US quits worrying about his close allies S. Korea and Japan.
And Iran is a paper state that is next in line for the jootam pezari. So you don't need to gloat or in anyway promote axis of evil. As of May 7th we are already at war with Talib janglis from this axis.
Thank you.
Personal attacks IGNORED! (These attacks are Da thing for the debate-losers)
Those sanctions were "slap on the wrist". Our food, fuel, financial transactions etc. was never stopped. Only the military supplies got impacted.
Ask the axis of evil Iran and N. Korea. They beg, and steal even the basic stuff. N. Korea begs of puny $ million 1 aid. They are like those nomad children surviving on the bread crumbs.
And Iran with all its ayatullah might, steals stuff in the black market and even then has to buy PETROL. And we thought they are the oil producing nation. Oh well this is what Mullah rule does that to you.
Here is Iran, the so called Islamic Bum-power and they can't fix even their oil refineries.
This is what REAL sanctions do to you.
Luckily Pakistanis establishment was smart enough to never get to that point. Hopefully to Islamists' nightmare, we never will.
N. Korea would be obliterated in a day, if US quits worrying about his close allies S. Korea and Japan.
And Iran is a paper state that is next in line for the jootam pezari. So you don't need to gloat or in anyway promote axis of evil. As of May 7th we are already at war with Talib janglis from this axis.
Thank you.
i'll leave the gloating to you, since you're so good at it.
your post is a repeated rant without actually addressing the points raised in my previous post. here i'll put it for you here, so you don't miss it:
Why is Obama Administration seeking to better ties with Iran/Syria/North Korea and willing to sit down and talk with them unconditionally since they're the "axis of evil". Only a bush'ist (not to be confused with b.s.) would believe that.
just when sanity in Obama administration is starting to prevail, the sore supporters of bush's idiotic policies still run around coining lables created in the last 8 years.
now w/out hurling labels and calling me a debate-loser (which btw is an insult, it is you who has an issue of tolerance for others' point of view), can you tell me why the "axis of evil" still exists and has actually gained influence worldwide? could it be American failure of diplomacy or lack thereof? when it sounds like a duck, talks like a duck, hangs around the pond like a duck, it's probably a duck.
Re: The myth of Talibanistan
guys please continue to discuss this without passing comments on each other. you are having a nice point-counterpoint, lets try to continue that without undue aggressiveness.
.......why the "axis of evil" still exists ...
To conspiracy theorists, there are many reasons (books have been written).
However the answer to your rhetorical statement is:
Allah Shiateen ko dheel daita ha, jahannum may bhaijnay say pehlay. That's the whole reason evil and its axis still exist.
Re: The myth of Talibanistan
^ in this metaphor Allah = America?
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^:rotfl: No no…he is emphasizing the fact that Bush did indeed talk to Jesus, and now it is Obama who shall do the Lord’s bidding on earth…
great logic burqa 
^ in this metaphor Allah = America?
Uff toba Allah toba. Kaisy baatain kurtay hai Lockjaw sahib?
Insaan to siraf wasila hota hay. Kai naik kaam hain jo ek din Allah shaayed aap say be kurway. I hope!
Re: The myth of Talibanistan
so basically you cannot answer why Obama Administration is desperately seeking to talk with the "axis of evil"?
so you resort to off-topic sillyness. :) awesome
....why Obama Administration is ... seeking to talk with the "axis of evil"?
...
So what do you want? No talk just bombs? No wonder Talibs want talks, and if someone talks to them, they perceive it as weakness.
Obama must be thinking keh shaayad thori si aqal buch he gayee ho axis main. Ummed per dunya qaayem hai.
Wallaho Aalam.