The Moghul Empire

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Thanks folks.

So which of these rulers would you say had the most positive impact on the subcontinent?

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^ Babar-The founder of Mughal empire.He was religious tolerant and he advised his so Humayun to resepct Indian traditions and culture.

Akbar-He had his secular vision,a lover and promoter of art.Encourages Hindu-Muslim marital relationship.

Jahangir-Though he was the son of a Hindu lady, Hindu persecution began during his time,he was a lover of nature and Art.

Shahjahan-A Hindu persecutor,but gifted `TAJ MAHAL' to India

Aurangazib-Started the down fall of Mughal dynasty,thanks to his perverted relligious bigotry.

Though a very little bit Sayyid brothers ended the evil system `Jaziya'

i think it is part of ur syllabus perhaps or stories from some biased hindu historian.

Aurangzeb Alamgir was the only practicing and allah fearing mughal ruler. thats why most of die hard hindus hate him. he was very hard working, just and pios person. he earned living by writing quran e pak by his own hand. and ur allegation of murdering innocents hindus is baseless. but if u kill the enemy in the war thats another thing

after all he was the greatest of all the muslim rulers ever ruled over Indian Subcontinent.

definitely u wud like Akbar coz who was not practicng muslim he had nothing to with islam. beside he tried to created his own "Deen Elahi".

IN pakistan who make the GT raod?

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GT road stands for Grand trunk road and was around since the first mass migration... the Aryans used the same GT road to smash into India from Iran.

Then after the Arians... came the Saka and the Persians and then the Greeks under Alexander, and then the Persians came back... and then the Huns.

Then came the Arabs, and the Turks and more Huns and tartars and Mongols and the Timurids, and then finally from the same Mongol stock came the Mughals.

I think the greatest Mughal ruler was Zair Ud Deen Babar without a doubt... however the Mughals were not as good for India especially the later ones...

As a man who belongs to central Asian tribes by blood naturally i would be fond of my conquering ancestors but i will not accept that they were all mindless brutes. Many were enthuisiastic killers but they fought with honour in the early days... Babbar was the only Mughal i would have served.

Although Auranzeb was probably the most efficent warrior, he killed without mercy and even blinded his father for all his good faith he was a butcher... even if he was a good fighter.

Babbar on the other hand had killed men while he was still a boy and always fought fairly... he treated the natives with respect they deserved and did not ruin things like is later generations.

The truth be told the Mughals were doomed after him, Humayun was no warrior and his tendency to prefer books to blades cost him dearly.... i really feel sorry for him becuase it was obvious after him all was delicate.

It's a sad end to the line of Chingiz Khan. But nevertheless for all thier bad and good one thing is for certian the great dynasty of the Mughals has influenced India forever... and no matter what India has for a Goverment these days they are no where near as good as the best of the Mughals.

Mind you my favourite Indian kingdoms are Mauryan the Ghorid Sultanate, and the Sultanate of Khudadaad... now those were fine systems we called all learn from.

Aurengzeb's unprovoked war against the Muslim states of Golconda and Bijapur puts lie to his claims of piety.

In fact when his chief qazi issued a ruling that Shias are Muslims and therefore jihad could not be waged against Golconda and Bijapur (being Shia-ruled), Aurangzeb fired the Qazi and replaced him with a more pliant one who was willing to rule that Jihad should be waged against Shias, in order to justify his invasion.

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The last trait of the empire was gunned by Mr.Hudson at K.D.

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^ Haha not quite... Mughal fammilies still exists as does the greater nation...

However it was an end for the royal line i suppose but then again if you go back far enough the Mughals were amiong the first meritocracies.

Even the Great Chingiz Khan had selected his third son to rule over the first two who were bickering idiots.

I guess somebody here can analyize things objectively great job MS

and not to forget that aurangzaib waded in blood to the throne, not that I admire his rivals by any means but to purposely wage such wars against other muslims and kill them in thousands is not an act of piety.
Nor was his imperialistic expansions in the NWFP areas, its true that he made some concessions to keep the Ulema happy but to say that he had the same qualities befitting of a Khalifa-e-rashid is a huge exaggeration.

Not really sure but i have read of Mir Jumla a 12er from Golconda who became his trusted ally and many rajputs whom he employed in the succession wars against other muslims.