The issue of Fadak

[Crescent]

Re: The issue of Fadak

@BOY-NICE

Dear Crescent, the thread was directed to Shias to have the Shia input in the matter. But since you have taken the thread a way forward, towards a debate, thus I am also entitled to posy my comments on yours.

First of all, I can see that you have not refuted to any of the thing I had written in the list, thus those points are still there, on the contrary you have brought an entirely different views.

Dear, the thing is that Abu Bakar should have listened to Fatima Zahra [sa], doubting her was equal to doubt the Quran because it was Quran that testified her purification [33:33], and her status of being truthful when she was chosen by Allajh to curse the lairs [3:61], of course Allah will not chose to curse the lairs who may have the tendency to tell a lie.

The inheritance of the family matter of Prophet [s], and the family ‘rejected’ the notion that the head of their family i.e. the Prophet ever stated that His [s] progeny will be deprived of the right if inheritance, a right well attested in Quran. Allow me to take liberty to cite an example on you, just imagine, if your father leaves property but did not tell you and other family members his intention or his plan regarding the property after him, yet he tells this to an outsider.

And your notion that ‘out of his love for Ahlulbayt’ he gave something to them…then my dear friend, the truth is that besides Fadak, Fatmia Zahra [as] was even deprived of the money of Khums by Abu Bakar. Moreover, Abu Bakar broke into the house of Fatima Zahra [sa] to see if there was any valuables left by Prophet [s] while he never did same thing to the wives of the prophets. The wives of prophet kept living the appartments of prophet, yet Abu Bakar never asked them to handover the property of prophet to the government, etc etc so this all sum up, that a bias was shown on his part towards Ahlulbayt [as] and that was the reason the chief of the women of paradise left this world angry with him.

PS: The regret of Abu Bakar on his deathbed about his stance towards Fatima Zahra [sa] is suffice to tell the actual story.

I did not answer FOR the shias, I presented the Sunni view on this matter which is much more plausible.

Let me get to a few points in this post. One thing I find frustrating from Shias is their references to the Quranic Ayahs.

You said she was made pure, by referencing verse 33 from Surah Ahzab:

[Ahzab 33:33] And remain in your houses and do not unveil yourselves like the unveiling prevalent in the times of ignorance, and keep the prayer established, and pay the charity, and obey Allah and His Noble Messenger; Allah only wills to remove all impurity from you, O the People of the Household, and by cleansing you make you utterly pure. (*The Holy Prophet’s household.)

This includes Aisha r.a. , who the Shias hate so much.

As for the verse from Surah Al Imran, Here it is in context so you may better understand it:

[A/I`mran 3:55] Remember when Allah said, “O Eisa! I will keep you alive till your full age, and raise you towards Me, and cleanse you of the disbelievers and give your followers dominance over the disbelievers until the Day of Resurrection; then you will all return to Me, so I shall judge between you concerning the matter in which you dispute.”

[A/I`mran 3:56] “So I shall mete a severe punishment to those who disbelieve, in this world and in the Hereafter; and they will not have any supporters.”

[A/I`mran 3:57] “And for those who believed and did good deeds, Allah will give them their full reward; and Allah does not like the unjust.”

[A/I`mran 3:58] These are some verses that We recite to you, and advice full of wisdom.

[A/I`mran 3:59] The example of Eisa with Allah is like that of Adam; He created him (Adam) from clay and then said to him, “Be” - and it thereupon happens!

[A/I`mran 3:60] O listener! (followers of this Prophet) This is the Truth from your Lord, so never be of those who doubt.

[A/I`mran 3:61] Therefore say to those who dispute with you (O dear Prophet Mohammed - peace and blessings be upon him) concerning Eisa after the knowledge has come to you, “Come! Let us summon our sons and your sons, and our women and your women, and ourselves and yourselves - then pray humbly, thereby casting the curse of Allah upon the liars!” (The Christians did not accept this challenge.)

Please tell me where Fatima r.a. is being told to curse Abu Bakr r.a. in this verse?

A command from the Prophet pbuh is a command from the Quran. We fully accept his message, and we abide by what he says and acts upon. Even Fatima r.a. did not take that issue to this level, which some people from this ummah have brought it to.

It is sad to see fabrication enter hearts of so many people in such a manner. Its utterly disappointing to witness threads such as these cursing some of the Greatest men to accompany the Prophet pbuh.

Doesn’t even once common sense strike us that we realize, these were men who were the closest to the Prophet pbuh? Men he trusted, men he praised, the Quran praised?

Not only is this an insult to them, but contrary to the beliefs of the Prophet pbuh and his household.

I am sorry to get so upset, but this is reality. His household, and his companions mean a lot to sunnis, and we seriously frown upon anyone cursing either.

YES, Aisha r.a. was his household, as was Abu Bakr’s r.a. progeny to Ali r.a.
YES, his closest companions, Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Ali, Ibn Masud, etc r.a. were all some of the greatest men to walk this earth.

Astagfrullah, May Allah have mercy on us.

Wallaikum Assalam