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to hum kia karayn? what exactly is that you want to discuss?
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I'm a little lost. Why are these women facing charges under some version of Islamic law in Pakistan?
If it's about adultery and rape, then shouldn't men be punished as well? If such is the case, then I see the police being discriminatoryand not Islam.
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Shariah law as implemented in pakistan is faulty.
In rape cases, they charge the woman because the Pakistani version of the law requires witnesses to state it was rape. Obviously, few women are raped in the presence of willing witnesses. When a woman reports a rape, the situation is turned round such that she is accused of admitting to a sexual encounter, and accusing a man of rape without any witnesses to backup her version of the story.
In other cases, false witness is given, with people people bribed or simply giving false testimony to protect "honour".
Shariah law works when the people being governed by it are good muslims. In a corrupt society like Pakistan, shariah law is being manipulated by the dishonest and the corrupt into being a means of injustice, rather than the means of justice it stood for in the past and should stand for in the future.
And our politico-religious leaders refuse to make any rollbacks to the law and even opposed government efforts to just review the law.
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From what I understand, the religious groups want the laws changed to make their misuse difficult, while the secularists want the laws removed entirely. So, rather than move forward, the two groups continue to bicker while the corrupt people in charge continue to uphold the status quo - and let's keep in mind the laws were brought in partly to cater to their interests.
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Maddy, thanks for the clarification. So Pakistan and its so-called Islamic law is at fault. Nothing new I suppose. It's quite pathetic to punish women raped because they cannot produce evidence, while the aggressor goes free.
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I don’t like the term “secularist” to describe our politicians, since none use that term themselves.
But essentially, what happens is that every time non-Islamic political factions calle for a review of the laws to make their misuse difficult, the islamic parties are afraid this is just a cover to strip out the Shariah laws (Hudood Ordnance) completely.
So the religious parties don’t trust non-religious parties to change the laws; but the non-religious parties don’t believe the religious parties would make any effort to change the laws. So we have a stalemate.
It’s such a hot potato that even Benazir Bhutto, our former liberal female prime minister made no serious effort to try and review the law.
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According to Sharia law of Pakistan and some other countries like Nigeria, Hazrat Maryam (as) would be punishable by death as she cannot prove she didn’t have a relationship outside of wedlock.
Anyway, Sheikh Mujeeb-ur-Rahman, former Amir of Ahmadiyya Jama’at Rawalpindi and a lawyer by profession was part of a team that fought a number of cases to overturn the Hudood laws, specifically regarding rape but the courts won’t budge. I remember at one case a mob stood outside the high court and threatened to vandalize the building if the judge overturned the rape law.
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Maddy, which law did Bainazir passed that actually benefited Pakistani woman? Name one? It’s a myth that female politicians work to for the benefit of female population. Tell me how many of the female MNAs of Pakistan who were voted in by their parties, supported Mukhtar Mai? Its not anything particular in Pakistan, Indra Gandhi didn’t do jack to further the cause of Indian woman, and the Bandaranaike, Khalida Zia or Hassina Wajid also did lip service to the women of their country. They all were generally as morally corrupt as their male counter parts.
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Hudood laws blasphemy laws every party shows that is has reservations about it but they dont do anything atleat repeal these laws.even if the mma votes against these laws.Most parliamentarians of PML PPP MQM and minority MPs have reservations about these law why not pass a resolution in the assembly i think minus mma they can get a two third majority
Secondly i dont know how the human right commision works.Iqbal haider is i think the secretary general he was in ppp and a former law minister.He can easily name the members whose sisters were married to quran in interior sindh.asma jehangir says that there are human rights violations in dera bugti but the leader of the kalpar community said that human rights commision did nothing when there were abuses againt his community.
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Hazrat Benazir was a tom-boy :D
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AJ I know I am gonne regret saying something in BB's defence but you do know her party did not have a majority in Parliament during both terms?