The hidden hand behind all of Pakistan's problems finally identified.

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Attempt or seriously do it?

They (two participants) criticized Ahmadis with one or two reasons.

Major reason was Ahmadis are against death penalty. One person said an Ahmadi warned him for bloodshed when Ahmadis were declared Non-Muslims. His personal life experience.

Do you agree with their accusation against Ahmadis?

The talk about Ahmadis lasted for only a couple of minutes out of over 27 minutes of video.

None of these said Ahmadis should be killed.

You simply deliberately ignored all other discussion.

More importantly: Your title is wrong.

The video and participants did not agree unanimously on everything except condemning criminals despite their own individual opinions.

In the end they condemned terrorism in any form. Death penalty was approved for criminals. Also they agreed that there are people who are using Islam to defame islam by causing fitna and fasad.

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Guy in the video is doing hate speech...

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as reported in the media...an Ahmadi guy was shot N killed days after these bozos delivered the hate speech...these mullahs must be arrested and put in jail and the keys thrown away. i would seek death penalties for them if if i were the prosecutor.

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Re: The hidden hand behind all of Pakistan’s problems finally identified.

asal art yeh hay :slight_smile:

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You should worry about of your own home country problems before dreaming to become the prosecutor in Pakistan.

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See that's why it's so difficult having a discussion with you. What's with all the wishy washy explanations.

I asked you a specific question whether you think he is a scholar because you had accused me of trying to malign religious scholars. You totally ignore that part.

Then I said that what he's doing is incitement and hate speech. You can either contend that it isn't hate speech and other people should be able to 'criticize' their opponents in the same way. Or you can suggest some way of stopping such hatred being preached.

Words matter in a country like Pakistan when it comes to religion. People's lives are on the line. The host of that show has previously called Ahmadis wajib ul qatl and two Ahmadis dies as a result. Most of these 'religious scholars' also hold the same view although they, thankfully, didn't articulate it in this program.

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mere Khilaaf koii fatwa apne dost mullaaoN se Haasil kar liijiiye taa k aapko mere Khilaaf zehr ugalne meN aasaanii ho aur koii qabaaHat na rahe...jaan kii amaaN paauuN to 'arz karuuN k ba_Haisiyat GS ke ek member ke mujhe bhii utnaa hii Haq hai kuchh kahne kaa jitnaa aapko hai...hai na?

fatwa le aaiye to baat kijiye...aapke to bahot se mullaa dost haiN.

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Re: The hidden hand behind all of Pakistan’s problems finally identified.

I’m impressed of your knowledge in art :slight_smile:

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@mahool;

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art aor culchur mein me and me k jaisey asal art key dilda logon k liye section banaya jay jahan per mahool post ko edit neh kar sakay :cobra:
mein bhi kafi impres howa hon is art sey :sunnyboy:

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Classic from terrorists with a mic. They need a boogie man to hate. The boogie man changes from time to time - depending on what is fashionable. Qadiyanies are easy targets for them.

Amir Liaqat is a fraud and another xxx terrorist with a mic. If you recall he also sided with the terrorist mindset on the issue of laal masjid. Fry him in a military courts along with others on the video. Lets also figure out who produces such vile programs on TV. Isnt that part of the 20 points. Time for gunja to put money where his mouth is. SHUT DOWN all terrorist sympathizing mullah channels.

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yeh shah jee mujhey deobandi to nahin lagtey waisey :cobra: Allah ka lakh lakh shuker hay warnah ab tuk to FB bhar jani thi in k khilaf :sunnyboy:

khiyalat to buhet unchay hein in key

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yeh donon he syed awais shah sb hein kah oper walay in key jawani key tasveer hein :cobra:

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no he is not a deobandi, an idiot nevertheless.

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abul irfan? Is this a title as well? Qadri kangarvi :smack:

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Yeah, but as long as the hate speech targets qadiyaanis or other religious minorities, it is not seen as a problem in Pakistan.

And why should it be problematic? Its not like hate speech against religious minorities ever lead to violent outbursts against them, in pak.

The people clapping hate speech are sadly in majority in Pak, and then you wonder why there is so much violence and hatred in Pakistan.

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The duration of his hate speech has zero significance. Also the minute he started spewing hatred, all his other points automatically became moot.

But thats far from the most worrying part. The most worrying part is that hate speech is applauded in Pakistan.

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Don't show your stress.

Go see Kissing Baba as you wished for so eagerly. May be that will remove your stress and obsession for Pakistan and its internal affairs.

Stop bashing anything related to Pakistan. Do something for once for your home county.

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Why is this so difficult to discuss when I gave you exactly what was the background of that program?

You picked and chose what you wanted. Yur title is misleading. They discussed few other factors and one person said something against Ahmadis.

Please do not dramatize.

Ahmadis were not the target of that program by any means.

Will give you answer in this background if time permits. OK?

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hahaha...mirchii kaa kia bhaao aajkal chal rahaa hai? ;)

my country is just doing fine...thank you! :)