The great Mujahid, Abu Ayoub Al-Ansariy..

Re: The great Mujahid, Abu Ayoub Al-Ansariy..

you have said some pretty major claims about Allah. BRING proof before you speak about Allah or shut your trap. Has Allah said that he is not a form? if not, then we cant say he does not, neither can we say he has a form. we are quiet about this issue. has allah said he does not have a body? if not, then we cant say he does not, neither can we say he does unless he says so. so we shut ourselves up in this issue as well.

Volume 9, Book 93, Number 479:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "On the Day of Resurrection Allah will hold the whole earth and fold the heaven with His right hand and say, 'I am the King: where are the kings of the earth?" ' 

Volume 9, Book 93, Number 509:

Narrated Ibn 'Umar:

Allah's Apostle said, "On the Day of Resurrection, Allah will grasp the whole Earth by His Hand, and all the Heavens in His right, and then He will say, 'I am the King." Abu Huraira said, "Allah's Apostle said," Allah will grasp the Earth...' 

so this hadith proves that allah has HANDs, how they look like is not to be discussed.

Volume 9, Book 93, Number 481:

Narrated Anas:

The Prophet said, "(The people will be thrown into Hell ( Fire) and it will keep on saying, 'Is there any more?' till the Lord of the worlds puts His Foot over it, whereupon its different sides will come close to each other, and it will say, 'Qad! Qad! (enough! enough!) By Your 'Izzat (Honor and Power) and YOUR KARAM (Generosity)!' Paradise will remain spacious enough to accommodate more people until Allah will create some more people and let them dwell in the superfluous space of Paradise. " 

this hadith proves that allah has foot, HOW it looks is not to be discussed.

Volume 9, Book 93, Number 511:

Narrated 'Abdullah:

A man from the people of the scripture came to the Prophet and said, "O Abal-Qasim! Allah will hold the Heavens upon a Finger, and the Earth on a Finger and the land on a Finger, and all the creation on a Finger, and will say, 'I am the King! I am the King!' " I saw the Prophet (after hearing that), smiling till his premolar teeth became visible, and he then recited: -- 'No just estimate have they made of Allah such as due to him... (39.67) 

this proves that Allah has fingers, how they look like is not to be discussed.

Volume 9, Book 93, Number 524:

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:

The Prophet said, "The people will fall unconscious on the Day of Resurrection, then suddenly I will see Moses holding one of the pillars of the Throne." Abu Huraira said: The Prophet said, "I will be the first person to be resurrected and will see Moses holding the Throne." 

and this proves that the throne is something tangible, not “the throne of authority” that people say, because how can musa AS “hold” some metaphor?
but how does this throne look like is not to be discussed…
but these issues should not be pondered over, as there is a hadith from the prophet SAW that said that ponder over the creation of Allah but dont ponder over Allah himself.
wallah o alam

Re: The great Mujahid, Abu Ayoub Al-Ansariy..

Brothers these lot dont have a clue wot they talk about. They say abt Allah(swt) what Allah hasnt himself said. so either they are REALLY ignorant or they hav been know sumthin about Allah that no1 else knows.

Re: The great Mujahid, Abu Ayoub Al-Ansariy..

this is for you blindfollowers. May Allah Guide you to the truth.

Shakyh ul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah followed th madhab of the Salaf so why wud he contradict is madhab by claiming what you loy say he does abt Allah's attributes??

Another unfounded allegation thrown in the direction of ibn Taymiyyah is that he considered Allaah to be a body (jism). This ancient argument has, sadly, also been repeated by Kabbani in our time as well as Hasan as-Saqqaaf who wrote in his notes to Daf' Shubhah at-Tashbeeh (pp. 245-246): "

Entering into this category is al-Harraanee (ibn Taymiyyah)... who has affirmed a jism (body) for Allaah in many of his books. From this is his saying in at-Ta'sees (1/101): 'There is not in the Book of Allaah, nor in the Sunnah of His Messenger, nor a statement from any one of the Salaf of this Ummah and its Imaams that He is not a body, and that His Attributes are not bodily, consisting of organs...'"

The falsity of as-Saqqaaf's allegations can be explained in the following ways:

i. The previously mentioned quote that he ascribed to ibn Taymiyyah is not from his own words. Rather, ibn Taymiyyah was quoting the saying of the people of kalaam (theological rhetoric) in explanation of their views. However, in order to bring about his accusation, as-Saqqaaf conveniently omitted the beginning of ibn Taymiyyah's words where he began by saying: "They say...."!

How ludicrous then are the words of Kabbani:

"We warn the reader not to be deceived by the disclaimer invoked by some of Ibn Taymiyya's admirers that he did not really hold all these beliefs but merely quoted them in his review of the positions of those he criticised."

(Kabbani, p.66)

ii. Ibn Taymiyyah has repeatedly spoken against describing Allaah as a body or with organs:

"Indeed, the term body (jism), organs ('arad), extent (mutahayyiz) and their like are all newly-invented terminologies. We have mentioned many a time before that the Salaf and the Imaams have not spoken about such things, neither by way of a negation nor by way of affirmation. Rather, they declared those who spoke about such matters to be innovators and went to great lengths to censure them."

(refer to ibn Taymiyyah, Majmoo' al-Fataawaa 3/306-310 and 13/304-305, Minhaajus-Sunnah an-Nabawiyah 2/134-135, 192, 198-200 and 567)

iii. Ibn Taymiyyah also wrote in Sharh Hadeeth an-Nuzool (p. 71) that describing Allaah as a body is:

"An innovation in the Sharee'ah, a corruption of the language and a contradiction to the intellect. Rather, it is repudiated by the Sharee'ah, the language and the intellect

now where are arguements?

Re: The great Mujahid, Abu Ayoub Al-Ansariy..

and if that isnt enuff for you lot then wot abt what Dr ramadan saeed al bootee(a sufi who is against those upon the Salafi dawah, The ahlus Sunnah!) said abt ibn taymiyyah!

Very Verrrrrry shocking! this mite giv sum against Ibn Taymiyyah a heart attack so beware!

Al Bootee said:

"We are amazed when we see the extremists declaring ibn Taymiyyah, may Allaah have mercy upon him, to be an unbeliever. And also at them saying that he was one who held Allaah to be a body (mujassid), and I have studied long and hard as to where I could find a statement or a word from ibn Taymiyyah that he wrote or said which would indicate his holding Allaah to be a body as was quoted from him by as-Subki and others and I have not found anything from him like this. All I found was him saying in his legal rulings, 'Indeed Allaah has a Hand as He said, and has risen over the Throne as He said, and He has an Eye as He said'."

Al-Buti adds to this: "I referred to the last work written by Abu al-Hasan al-Ash'ari, 'al-Ibaanah', and I found him saying exactly what ibn Taymiyyah said..."

(Nadwa Ittjaahaat al-Fiqr al-Islaamee, pp. 264-265, of al-Buti)

feel free to check the references.